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#26
Torrius

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On hand I have two books that make up "L'Morte d'Arthur", as well as a Latin dictionary, and I don't see "Ser" anywhere in either of those. I would not be surprised if it's a corruption of Sir that originated in A Song of Ice and Fire or some other fantasy novel.

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HeathenKing

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Neither. Just say "Ni!"

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Maria Caliban

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Srikandi715 wrote...

In the context of an RPG which lets the player choose their character's gender, if you want to allow both genders for all races/classes/origins etc, it is vastly more convenient when writing dialogue to have a gender-neutral title. Reduces substantially the number of lines of dialogue that have to be recorded twice for gender adjustments.

So I would hypothesize that the motivation for going with a gender-neutral title, AND access by both genders to most or all social roles in the world, is not political, it's economic.\\

Except 'ser' sounds exactly like 'sir.'

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Srikandi715

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Yes, but by spelling it differently and claiming it's a different word, they can still dodge the requirement to re-record the dialogue.

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Srikandi715 wrote...

In the context of an RPG which lets the player choose their character's gender, if you want to allow both genders for all races/classes/origins etc, it is vastly more convenient when writing dialogue to have a gender-neutral title. Reduces substantially the number of lines of dialogue that have to be recorded twice for gender adjustments.

So I would hypothesize that the motivation for going with a gender-neutral title, AND access by both genders to most or all social roles in the world, is not political, it's economic.

Of course, American RPGs are much more likely than those from Europe or Japan to allow the player to choose their character's gender for any race/class, as opposed to building those gender roles into the game. There may be a cultural/political motivation for that: American gamers expect in an RPG to be able to play a role of THEIR choosing, as opposed to acting out a role handed to them by the game devs. Something in our culture about individualism and choice, I guess.

I understand the motivation behind a gender neutral word. I was wondering about the word "ser" specifically. Where they got it from instead of something like "Exalted Knight" or whatever.

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Aurvan wrote...

So they got it after A Song of Ice and Fire? That was the first place I saw it.
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Maria Caliban wrote...

Yes.

So it's just something Martin made up himself? Are you sure?

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Aw, I actually liked the sound of "Dame". It's what I'm naming my female Dwarven noble, "Dame Aeducan". It's not a title in her case, of course, given that Dwarves have no knighthood as such, but it's still a pretty name.



Dame was also originally the title for the wife of a knight, before they changed that to "Lady".

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Aurvan wrote...

Aurvan wrote...

So they got it after A Song of Ice and Fire? That was the first place I saw it.
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Maria Caliban wrote...

Yes.

So it's just something Martin made up himself?


That's not what I said.

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Lucy Glitter

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DocSun wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Check the politics part here: dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Fereldans

Wow... Part of me seriously wonders how much of this is actually going to be important during gameplay and how much is fluff. I have to admire BW though... the emence amount of background makes the world come alive.


You are a doofus. Lore is one of the key points to any good epic narrative.



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Maria Caliban

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Lucy is a double doofus with cheese.



Alister only loves her for her cheese.