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[Grace1957]

Bows and arrows are my favorite weapons.It's so much fun to just stand in the shadows and poke holes in things.

[jsachun]

Ahzrei wrote...

I love you David Gaider.


And rogues aren't bad. One of my favorite characters is a rogue. He uses two-handers even though there's no real talent build for them. He'll tear you up if you let him get anywhere near your backside.

Ah, hope his not gay.

Modifié par jsachun, 27 février 2010 - 05:01 .

[Ahzrei]

jsachun wrote...

Ahzrei wrote...

I love you David Gaider.


And rogues aren't bad. One of my favorite characters is a rogue. He uses two-handers even though there's no real talent build for them. He'll tear you up if you let him get anywhere near your backside.

Ah, hope his not gay.

Naw, my rogue married Anora after a long and fulfilling relationship with Morrigan. Though he made many an ass bleed along the way.

[Addai]

People who don't know how to build rogues think rogues suck. The rest of us know that a warrior is a slow, stupid meat shield who can wear pretty armor.



I only keep one warrior in my party, and for one reason only- to pull threat. The other three slots are either two mages and a rogue or two rogues and a mage. Any more than one warrior is a wasted opportunity to do a lot of hurt.

[Kryyptehk]

Addai67 wrote...

People who don't know how to build rogues think rogues suck. The rest of us know that a warrior is a slow, stupid meat shield who can wear pretty armor.

I only keep one warrior in my party, and for one reason only- to pull threat. The other three slots are either two mages and a rogue or two rogues and a mage. Any more than one warrior is a wasted opportunity to do a lot of hurt.

Hence why all my characters are warriors. (Except my two blood mages)

I suck at playing rogues, but I have only played one, so that's probably why.

Modifié par Kryyptehk, 27 février 2010 - 05:43 .

[Addai]

I forgot to say "slow, stupid meat shield who can wear pretty armor... and who get hit a lot."

I started out playing only warriors, but now I find playing a warrior tedious. The skills and specializations are boring and the attacks are so sloooow unless you have a mage running Haste. Plus, stats-wise it is proven that a dagger-dagger cunning rogue has the highest DPS, second is a dex-based rogue. Add in the rogue's special abilities, and why would anyone play a warrior? I want to open chests and disarm traps myself, in between dealing out indiscriminate death and stealthing in and out to scout a new area. Let an NPC take the boring job of tank.

There are threads in the Builds forum that are pages long describing how to build a rogue, but some keys are Paralysis runes (or spells) + Coup de Grace, Lethality, Combat Movement and Momentum. Put paralysis and hale runes on the offhand weapon and elementals (perhaps another paralysis rune for good measure) on the mainhand. Voila. A good rogue will be the most lethal melee fighter in your party and the one least in need of healing due to high dexterity and defensive bonuses.  Obviously they also make good archers and have some built-in poison skill which gives them some limited AoE.

Modifié par Addai67, 27 février 2010 - 06:14 .

[yasuraka.hakkyou]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

The OP as a player sucks.....can I get a hell yeah?

First of all, its ROGUE, not ROUGE. Unless you are complaining that your makeup is bad.

Rogues are extremely useful and easily the most fun class in the game to solo. If you are playing them like a warrior, you are doing it wrong.

- hell yeah

- hell yeah

- haven't tried to solo one (or anything), so I'll take your word.

David Gaider wrote...

Look at it this way: at least your foes will think your complexion is fabulous.

until they point and laugh at your terrible taste in clothing. Am I right?

[Eurypterid]

Gonna have to go with a "Hell, no" here. I've played two complete runs and have two current runs in the works. First run was a mage, the other three Rogues. I'm considering a new run with another mage. Have yet to get around to trying a warrior.

[Jose Ramirez]

it's obvious i can't spell. well, ill take that statement as a badge of honor, "stupid meat puppet who looks good in armor." i suppose i have more fondness for the warrior class becuase i've taken 5 years of saber fencing, and have not done so well in martial arts that require more finess like ninjistu. hence, i understand having a really big swords and hitting things until they die.

[zaim298]

we're not saying you're stupid... but we do agree that you suck at playing a rogue... and if you have preference for SS or 2H, it doesn't mean you can say Rogue class sucks... trust me when a class does suck in any game, the mass will openly bash it...



Me myself love to play as the heroic knight in shining armor/paladin class... but the rogue class is simply awesome in this game...

[Cuthlan]

Rogues are good, but different than a warrior. I prefer a warrior, but I enjoy rogues more than mages.

[Jose Ramirez]

well, can't argue there. definately do not know how to play with a rogue. most of my attack pattern is root/stun with morrigan then send in my two tanks, i do play leiliana as a warrior..

[jsachun]

Addai67 wrote...

I forgot to say "slow, stupid meat shield who can wear pretty armor... and who get hit a lot."

I started out playing only warriors, but now I find playing a warrior tedious. The skills and specializations are boring and the attacks are so sloooow unless you have a mage running Haste. Plus, stats-wise it is proven that a dagger-dagger cunning rogue has the highest DPS, second is a dex-based rogue. Add in the rogue's special abilities, and why would anyone play a warrior? I want to open chests and disarm traps myself, in between dealing out indiscriminate death and stealthing in and out to scout a new area. Let an NPC take the boring job of tank.

There are threads in the Builds forum that are pages long describing how to build a rogue, but some keys are Paralysis runes (or spells) + Coup de Grace, Lethality, Combat Movement and Momentum. Put paralysis and hale runes on the offhand weapon and elementals (perhaps another paralysis rune for good measure) on the mainhand. Voila. A good rogue will be the most lethal melee fighter in your party and the one least in need of healing due to high dexterity and defensive bonuses.  Obviously they also make good archers and have some built-in poison skill which gives them some limited AoE.

DW warrior don't suffer any speed penalty even when wearing massive armor. I think DW warrior creams all over DW rogue in combat anyday.

Modifié par jsachun, 27 février 2010 - 07:28 .

[Acero Azul]

i didn't mind the rogue class at all

[Mistress9Nine]

Rogues are awesome. Ur just doin' it wrong! Stealth + Backstabs + Feign Death is epic win in my book.

[AlanC9]

jsachun wrote...

DW warrior don't suffer any speed penalty even when wearing massive armor. I think DW warrior creams all over DW rogue in combat anyday.

Yep, right till he gets stunned and sneak attacked to bits.

[ArtRogue]

Rogues are fun! Dual wield is great, especially as you gain the higher levels. Do backstabs, poison your weapons and throw some bombs on your enemies and you'll have a butt-kicking good time.

[unokolo]

Rogue is my favourite class. I am really incapable as a warrior, because I preffer to play with my enemies. I enjoy backstabs, dirty fighting, poisons, bombs and stealth. It is fun. I played warrior once and I died everytime I got into a more serious fight...

[th8827]

I happen to like Rogues. And my first Rogue wore rouge. She was, indeed, a fabulous character.



Rouges have the best special abilities. I loved using stealth to escape notice whenever I was in danger of dieing, and Dirty Fighting was my most invaluable friend in battles.

[VaeVictus X]

Um... no? Seriously, Rogues are awesome.

[jsachun]

AlanC9 wrote...

jsachun wrote...

DW warrior don't suffer any speed penalty even when wearing massive armor. I think DW warrior creams all over DW rogue in combat anyday.

Yep, right till he gets stunned and sneak attacked to bits.

Bits? You couldn't even rip my armor into bits.

[Spitz6860]

my rogue probably does more damage per sec than any other class ever will, and if you have a good tank in your party, the only attack your rogue need to worry about are AOE spells and and massive attacks. Rogue as a class, doesn't suck, your particular one might though.

[jsachun]

Spitz6860 wrote...

my rogue probably does more damage per sec than any other class ever will, and if you have a good tank in your party, the only attack your rogue need to worry about are AOE spells and and massive attacks. Rogue as a class, doesn't suck, your particular one might though.

It's a known fact that warriors contribute more to party's damage than any other class. I think the highest non solo stands at 60% of the parties damage.

Also Arrow of Slaying would one hit wonder most rogue builds anyway. 

Modifié par jsachun, 27 février 2010 - 10:14 .