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[Pauravi]

I really liked both sets of characters, honestly. I thought they were both developed well, and I don't think there are any characters in either game that I just downright don't like. Two things I appreciated about DA, though:

- The love interest characters have a lot to say, even if you don't romance them.

- The random party banter

[Mondo47]

Booglarize wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Dragon Age had some nice characters, sure. I had a soft spot for Sten and Shale especially. Oghren had some funny lines and filled the comic relief out, but as soon as Morrigan started telling me how cold her tent was... creeped out to the max. If there ever was a character with a 'throw your soul away here' sign hovering over her head...

Oddly enough, I had a completely different experience with Morrigan in the game - my character was basically just friends with her up until I completed her personal quest and killed Flemeth, after which she confessed feelings for my character in a much more hesitant and sentimental way, and I was won over even though I didn't figure her for the type. 

Of course, it didn't last very long because she really is genuinely crazy, and relapsed into that whole "Love is a weakness" phase before long. Still, fun while it lasted. Also, the romance with her (at least the route that I went down) was the first I'd seen where there were actual ups and downs, rather than a stable, straightforward transition from courtship to relationship. The closest thing in ME2 was probably Jack.

I think she was my favourite character from the game, after Alistair. Still, I think I prefer Jack because she generally felt like a better-written character whose excuses for acting the way she did and believing the things she did seemed more plausible than Morrigan's. 

I've had folk say the same thing to me about Morrigan, that she's a your-mileage-may-vary character, much the way Jack is. I played DA:O through as female first (and boy did the end feel like the thin end of the damn wedge... punishment for not having a hero's 'equipment'), so I never saw that side of it until I attempted a replay as male and... ice water in my underwear. Morrigan though is to me at least a character you couldn't fix; the damage has been done so much, to prepare her for her eventual 'destiny' (I bought everything that happened really as part of Flemeth's ploy and that nothing could divert it and everything was part of it... killing Flemeth, taking the book, Baby Cthulhu - all part of Flemeth's game). Jack just seems much more plausable to help, though I guess the ME game universe doesn't allow for potential soul-stealing gribblies from the netherworld/Lovecraft gods mucking it all up for you in the romance stakes

[Forsakerr]

both are great games ,but i prefered DA:O characters depth,party banter,and convos with your "crew" ,i felt a little disapointed that your squad mates did nt talk to each other in ME2 since they used to talk to each other in elevators and i guess i had been spoiled with DA:O so i was kind of expecting the same with ME2 , oh well

[Schneidend]

I'd say I like both equally, but I'm opposed to that kind of fence-sitting, so I'd have to say Dragon Age. There was more interaction to be had with Dragon Age's characters. Also, the random inter-party banter was amazing. If Mass Effect 3 makes the Normandy interactions more plentiful like Dragon Age's "camp," I might just go into seizures from all the awesome.

[Iokastos]

DA:O's characters are superior in many ways, they have a lot to talk about, banters and the whole approval system makes them more "real"

ME characters are probably cooler but they simply lack depth

[Zhijn]

DAO hands down! Wider range in character dialog and development.

Then again, they really are two very different games.
ME2 a 3rd person game heavly on the shooter with a taste of RPG. DAO, a full on RPG.

Modifié par Zhijn, 27 février 2010 - 02:09 .

[AdamNW]

I hated the LI's in DA:O, but the other characters were amazing.

ME2 had the best of both worlds.

[Chaos-fusion]

I love the depth of the characters in Dragon Age, but Mass Effect has aliens. If ME had more input from the party members, it'd win for me hands down, but as it is, I think DA edges out ahead.

Now, if ME3 gives me a varren party member, then it'll win with no conmpetition.

[Tyreal42a]

I agree. Though I would replace Dog with Shale. Oghren was hilarious and it's a pity Grunt didn't quite equal up. While none of the Dragon Age characters were bad, I didn't like them as much as the ME2 cast.

The problem is, Dragon Age has amazing party banter and a lot of interaction with the characters. Mass Effect 2 has very little. Combining Dragon Age's character conversations and banter with Mass Effect 2's squad cast would have made possibly the most memorable cast of characters in a game ever. They just needed more depth and more dialogue. A DLC or expansion that adds this in would be splendid.

Modifié par Tyreal42a, 27 février 2010 - 02:16 .

[Booglarize]

Tyreal42a wrote...

I agree. Though I would replace Dog with Shale. Oghren was hilarious and it's a pity Grunt didn't quite equal up. While none of the Dragon Age characters were bad, I didn't like them as much as the ME2 cast.

The problem is, Dragon Age has amazing party banter and a lot of interaction with the characters and between them. Mass Effect 2 has very little. Combining Dragon Age's character conversations and banter with Mass Effect 2's squad cast would have made possibly the most memorable cast of characters in a game ever. They just needed more depth and more dialogue. A DLC or expansion that adds this in would be splendid.

Agreed. Banter-wise, I think Dragon Age did the best job I've seen in any game since Planescape: Torment. Possibly even more impressive, given the larger number of characters and the fact that all of them seemed to have something to say to each other.

[Operation Genesis]

In general I prefered ME2's cast. I'm usually easily distracted by non-humans, and sure, Dragon Age had plenty of those, but Dwarves and Elves aren't nearly as interesting to me as Turians or Asari. The cast of ME2 was just more visually interesting.

As far as characterization goes, I think that rather handily goes to Dragon Age simply because there is more dialogue. I'm more interested in learning more about the ME2 cast, though, because, Christ, they're disfunctional. Also, since ME2 is building on ME1, I was much more settled in to the universe, and seeing Tali and Garrus again was like seeing old friends.

Also, Dragon Age looses points for the absolutely, mind-meltingly stupid way Zeveron joins your party. I felt like I was smashing my head against the wall recruiting him. Dude tries to kill you, fails, and then says that he wants to join you with the paper thin exuse that "The Crows might kill him maybe for failing." And then you can romance him, which is really just asking for it. Sure, there are some dangerous people on your squad in ME2, but none of them where *paid to kill you.* I always stop him from joining my party now cause letting him come with you is just a stupid, stupid move on the PC's part.

[t6ram]

I enjoy DAO's medieval-esque world and ME 2's futuristic sci-fi. Both storylines come from broader genres and are polarities because of it, as well Bioware's contribution to the genres are definitely distinct and unique to its own. I absolutely love it!



I also agree the extended dialogues and banter between DAO's characters have a slight edge over ME 2's structure. I hope ME 3 will integrate some of this concept to their characterization for the future though.

[Tyreal42a]

Operation Genesis wrote...

In general I prefered ME2's cast. I'm usually easily distracted by non-humans, and sure, Dragon Age had plenty of those, but Dwarves and Elves aren't nearly as interesting to me as Turians or Asari. The cast of ME2 was just more visually interesting.

I agree with this as well. The universe of Mass Effect and various aliens we see are just much more interesting. Don't get me wrong, I liked Dragon Age as well. It's detailed and dark and well constructed. The history is interesting, but it's pretty generic fantasy.

[t6ram]

Tyreal42a wrote...

Operation Genesis wrote...

In general I prefered ME2's cast. I'm usually easily distracted by non-humans, and sure, Dragon Age had plenty of those, but Dwarves and Elves aren't nearly as interesting to me as Turians or Asari. The cast of ME2 was just more visually interesting.

I agree with this as well. The universe of Mass Effect and various aliens we see are just much more interesting. Don't get me wrong, I liked Dragon Age as well. It's detailed and dark and well constructed. The history is interesting, but it's pretty generic fantasy.

Definitely. Asaris and Turians are fascinating. Very distinct!

[Fabler4]

I loved the Dragon Age characters. The evolution of their character over 70 hours of gameplay was nice.



Though the loyalty missions and the opening up after every hard mission in ME 2 was great too.



To me though the fact that there is so much difference in who likes who in Dragon Age means they are better written. You AREN'T going to like everyone, while in Mass Effect 2 <not bashing I love that game> it seems that you are meant to like them.

[StreetlightEagle]

ME2 had overall more interesting characters, but I felt character development was better in DA therefore I felt much more emotionally attached to them, they felt just a little bit more real. In ME2 it got to the point where everyone was a kind of superhero, and on top of that, they all started wearing some form of spandex suit and it felt like it was X-men in space.

[aaniadyen]

It's a bit hard to compare because they are totally different games. In DA, it was harder for them to make characters because every single fantasy character has already been done to death. They had to make characters in DA:O who were interesting, and new. This left the cast of Dragon Age a bit far from the norm. They probably had a bit more freedom when developing characters for Mass Effect 1/2 than they did with Dragon Age. Still, though...Dragon Age has better development by far. This is sad considering the main focus of Mass Effect is the characters.

[Operation Genesis]

Fabler4 wrote...

To me though the fact that there is so much difference in who likes who in Dragon Age means they are better written. You AREN'T going to like everyone, while in Mass Effect 2 it seems that you are meant to like them.

That's...not what I've experienced.  Going through these forums, there are massive divisions on who likes who.  The only two characters that seem to be somewhat universally loved are Legion and Mordin.  Everyone else has fans and haters.  I don't think Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 are really that different in that regard.

[Hk47sPappy]

If they could make a game with Alastair, Leliana, Morrigan, Grunt, Mordin, Tali, Legion, and HK-47; my brain would explode from the awesomeness.

[Symbolz]

I love both games. The only edge, I feel, that DA has over ME is more party dialogue and banter. Other than that I really can't pick and choose which characters I prefer more.

Modifié par Symbol117, 27 février 2010 - 03:16 .

[Cutlass Jack]

Well I love both games myself. And I love Tali and Garrus more than anyone in Dragon Age. But romance wise, Female characters do far better in Dragon Age in my opinion. It's hard taking Kaidan or Jacob seriously once you see how well done Alistair was done.

[ammobake]

MrBeardface wrote...

I'd say ME2 characters are far, far better. Every one of them was interesting and stirred some emotion, be it positive or negative. They really *do* feel like best of the best, and a weird bunch at that. In Dragon Age Morrigan and Alistair were the only really interesting characters. The rest were okay, but nothing great, even Shale got tiresome after a while. Hell, I'd say the dog had more personality than most of them, especially that rush-job of a romance that was Leilana.

On the other hand, the interactions with your party were far, far better in Dragon Age, no doubt about that.

In Dragon Age, other than the occasional joke by Shale I thought he was pretty boring..  All the characters in ME2 have some aspect of their personality that makes them a vital part of the team.  I prefered Oghren, Zevran, and Morrigan.  Morrigan doesn't really have any equal in Mass Effect 2 either.  Morrigan was to DAO what Ashley was to ME1..  ME2 doesn't really have anyone THAT outspoken.  Morrigan just had Moxy that the females seem to lack in ME2.

I thought it got boring having to be nice to Alistair all the time too.

What I didn't like about Dragon age was the main character not speaking during discussions even though you pick out a voice for your character at the beginning of the game.  It would've made the game alot more interesting.

But I agree that it was cool to be able to click on a party member while just walking around and be able to have a conversation.

-ChriS

[Booglarize]

Hk47sPappy wrote...

If they could make a game with Alastair, Leliana, Morrigan, Grunt, Mordin, Tali, Legion, and HK-47; my brain would explode from the awesomeness.

Throw in Minsc and you've got my support. Also, I know he's not from a Bioware game, but I'd really like to see Nordom worked in there somehow. 

[Ecael]

Tyreal42a wrote...

I agree. Though I would replace Dog with Shale. Oghren was hilarious and it's a pity Grunt didn't quite equal up. While none of the Dragon Age characters were bad, I didn't like them as much as the ME2 cast.

The problem is, Dragon Age has amazing party banter and a lot of interaction with the characters. Mass Effect 2 has very little. Combining Dragon Age's character conversations and banter with Mass Effect 2's squad cast would have made possibly the most memorable cast of characters in a game ever. They just needed more depth and more dialogue. A DLC or expansion that adds this in would be splendid.

A lot of dialogue in ME2 is hard to trigger because you only get one shot at them and you need specific squadmates in your party in the right place.

http://social.biowar...54145/1#1458388
http://social.biowar...5/index/1381848

There's also a lot of hidden dialogue if you take Tali, Legion, Samara or Thane to earlier missions (PC only, of course).

Further complicating things is the fact that Dragon Age had 8 fully voiced main characters, whereas Mass Effect 2 has 15 (including Kasumi, Morinth and both Shepards).

Modifié par Ecael, 27 février 2010 - 03:31 .

[GodWood]

I liked both but Dragon Age's character's had more dialogue/banter.
Therefore Dragon Age wins.

Modifié par GodWood, 27 février 2010 - 03:31 .