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[Tamcia]

erm no.....



MaleShep is really awesome in ME2, cant say same abut femaleshep - that one sucks bad.

[MPSai]

Yeah I prefer the Fem!Shep voice, she has so much more character and personality and you can really hear a change in tone between paragon and renegade choices. Man!Shep sometimes sounds like he's ANNOUNCING his lines rather than acting them, like he's reading off of cue cards and not really paying attention to what he's saying.

Though I started a renegade Man!Shep in ME1 recently. It amused me that he didn't sound evil so much as CRANKY.

Edit: As for people who think Hale's performance has too much emotion I find that all the neutral Fem!Shep responses are.... well... neutral. I expect a paragon response to sound compassionate and a renegade response to sound douchey, and she delivers this better. In short, Hale's acting makes me feel like I'm watching a living, breathing character, Meer's just pulls me out and reminds me I'm playing a video game.

Modifié par MPSai, 27 février 2010 - 06:37 .

[Jaysonie]

I much prefer Hale.

[hibiscus7694]

I would have loved it if the Femshep's voice had an accent, New York, British, Irish or even Wisconsin...just something to give her a unique quality.



As far as the Male Shep, They should have used Dominic Purcell...considering the premade guy looks almost identical to him...and he does have a sexy voice too.

[Petsura]

The only time his voice didn't fit was during the reunion with Garrus.



Shepard was all like "GARRUS MY FRIEND!" and Garrus himself "Yeah, whatever...".

[Revenant_Mortalus]

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

 My Maleshep looks more like Duke Nukem, still the voice kinda ruins it... <_<

Jon St. Jon shoulda voiced dudeshep - "I'm gonna get those alien b*stards for shooting up my ride!"  or "Nobody steals our colonists... And lives..."

[El Benderino]

I can't stand FemShep's voice. Something about it just kills it for me. I think she tries way too hard.

[TheTrooper1138]

MPSai wrote...

Yeah I prefer the Fem!Shep voice, she has so much more character and personality and you can really hear a change in tone between paragon and renegade choices. Man!Shep sometimes sounds like he's ANNOUNCING his lines rather than acting them, like he's reading off of cue cards and not really paying attention to what he's saying.

Though I started a renegade Man!Shep in ME1 recently. It amused me that he didn't sound evil so much as CRANKY.

Edit: As for people who think Hale's performance has too much emotion I find that all the neutral Fem!Shep responses are.... well... neutral. I expect a paragon response to sound compassionate and a renegade response to sound douchey, and she delivers this better. In short, Hale's acting makes me feel like I'm watching a living, breathing character, Meer's just pulls me out and reminds me I'm playing a video game.

this...

Revenant_Mortalus wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

 My Maleshep looks more like Duke Nukem, still the voice kinda ruins it... <_<

Jon St. Jon shoulda voiced dudeshep - "I'm gonna get those alien b*stards for shooting up my ride!"  or "Nobody steals our colonists... And lives..."

"I'm not gonna fight you, i'm gonna kick your ass!"  
and of course the classic "My gun is bigger than yours." - that one could almost compare to Femshep's line to the Merc recruiter...

[aaroxmi]

I really wasn't annoyed by male shepards voice, I thought he did a pretty good job, that is until I tried to play renegade during the scene where you meet grunt, he read the lines with very little emotion, like if he's ordering a pizza and then grunt says "I didn't know humans could be so forceful"

[Dr Bob UK]

Mark Meer does a great job as Shepard. His speeches send shivers down my spine.



Jennifer Hale sounds like she's putting a lot of emphasis on every single word, drawing them out unnecessarily.



But each to their own, this is just my opinion.

[JulianusApostate]

Sure seems like most people with a female for their avatar prefer the female shepard, and those with male ones are tending to not care or prefer the male Shepard. I personally found a lot of character in Meer's voice. He may not be AS emotional, but there's a lot of feeling in there, still.

[Ryzaki]

Am I the only one who thinks they both suck but Meer just sucks a little less?

[SpockLives]

I think the performances were equal in ME1. In ME2, I think Meer surpassed Hale slightly for Paragon dialogue and was significantly better for Renegade dialogue.

[didymos1120]

Ryzaki wrote...

Am I the only one who thinks they both suck but Meer just sucks a little less?

Quite possibly.  First time I've seen that stance, anyway.

[didymos1120]

You know what'd be interesting, since these things just can't ever be argued objectively? To see lists of worst/best lines for each Shep VA. You have to wonder how much agreement there'd between the Meer and Hale camps, even with those who utterly despise the other performer.

[masseffectfan00]

I didn't like female shepard's voice at first because I had a man crush on male shep's voice so it would seem like im cheating on my man but now I love female shep's voice.

[ikkedenechte]

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

unbelievable she also voice Bastila so damn annoyingly and yet lovable... ).

I recognised her very fast as the one from jedi academy but  finding out she played Bastilla was indeed quite a surprise. Whatever you may think of her interpretation no denying she's a good voiceactress

maybe someone will finally do a mod that lets you romance Maleshep's LIs, that would be great, then I wouldn't even have to play them all with that annyoing robot... :innocent:

If you really want to you can(or so they told me)   www.masseffect2faces.com/index.php
but it's a bit of work, and there's no way of telling what problems this may cause exporting your savegame to ME3


anyway, thanks to all of you for indulging my curiosity
de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum I guess

[MajorStranger]

Mark Meer is an Outstanding Voice Actor


Don't feed the troll, let him die of starvation!

[AnathamaDye]

OMG I was actually thinking about this a few days ago when I made my first male shepard.  His voice acting is no where near as good as the girl who does female shepard. 

[Grizzly46]

QualityJeverage wrote...

Jennifer Hale's performance as femShep may be better by "traditional" standards, but this is not a traditional acting part.

The problem with her performance is that there's too much emotion and feeling in her lines. Shepard is supposed to be a blank slate. An empty shell character that the player can imbue with whatever qualities he/she wants. Every single one of Jennifer Hale's lines has unspoken undertones and hidden intentions. If you aren't trying to play your character that way, her performance will fight you every step of the way.

Meer's performance is indeed very flat and unemotive. For a normal acting part, that would be bad. For Shepard, it's probably the best we can hope for. His lines are empty because his character needs to be empty. The performance may not be as traditionally pleasing as Hale's, but it's what the part really needs.

You need to understand how difficult to play Shepard must be. The actor is essentially being asked to play the part of every possible character that the player could want. Putting too much emotion or intention behind the lines risks alienating a subset of players who don't want their Shepards to go that way.

What this guy said. I have had no problems connecting with my Shepard since my mind fill in the blanks generously left by Meer. Ok, the voice acting was sub par in the beginning of ME1, but it got better - MUCH better.

The only really bad voice acting would have been the voice of Liara, unfortunately...

[FlyinElk212]

QualityJeverage wrote...

Jennifer Hale's performance as femShep may be better by "traditional" standards, but this is not a traditional acting part.

The problem with her performance is that there's too much emotion and feeling in her lines. Shepard is supposed to be a blank slate. An empty shell character that the player can imbue with whatever qualities he/she wants. Every single one of Jennifer Hale's lines has unspoken undertones and hidden intentions. If you aren't trying to play your character that way, her performance will fight you every step of the way.

Meer's performance is indeed very flat and unemotive. For a normal acting part, that would be bad. For Shepard, it's probably the best we can hope for. His lines are empty because his character needs to be empty. The performance may not be as traditionally pleasing as Hale's, but it's what the part really needs.

You need to understand how difficult to play Shepard must be. The actor is essentially being asked to play the part of every possible character that the player could want. Putting too much emotion or intention behind the lines risks alienating a subset of players who don't want their Shepards to go that way.

I'm sorry, but I completely disagree. You lost me at "there's too much emotion and feeling in her lines". What?

I do NOT want my Shepard to sound like a flat and unemotive robot, which you and several others here agreed to being "good". As far as I'm concerned, I want my Shepard to be as alive and kickin'; I want him to sound like he gives a crap about what's happening around him. As much as Shepard is supposed to be a universal molding doll, I simply cannot connect with him emotionally, because there's no EMOTION in his lines.

[archonambroseus]

I guess I can kinda get behind the "tabula rasa" theory on Meer's voice acting.  Most times someone rationalizes their preference for Meer over Hale it's "Shepard shouldn't have emotions because he's a soldier," which is BS, or "Shepard shouldn't have emotions because he's a killing machine," which is dependant on each individual playthough and certainly not canon.

That said, I find Hale in general to be very good in 1 and 2 and Meer in general to be simply tolerable.  However both do have moments of greatness and of… not so greatness.  Meer tends to have the most truly cringeworthy moments though.

[Yona Ti]

I play as a femshep for like 3 total playthroughs and then tried playing as a maleshep. Its just sounds horrible to me. To me he sounds like some pre teen boy going through puberty. I think you like the voice depending on what gender you picked first.

[archonambroseus]

Bah terrible misclick!

Modifié par archonambroseus, 01 mars 2010 - 04:31 .

[FlyinElk212]

archonambroseus wrote...

I guess I can kinda get behind the "tabula rasa" theory on Meer's voice acting.  Most times someone rationalizes their preference for Meer over Hale it's "Shepard shouldn't have emotions because he's a soldier," which is BS, or "Shepard shouldn't have emotions because he's a killing machine," which is dependant on each individual playthough and certainly not canon.

That said, I find Hale in general to be very good in 1 and 2 and Meer in general to be simply tolerable.  However both do have moments of greatness and of… not so greatness.  Meer tends to have the most truly cringeworthy moments though.

Agreed. Shepard SHOULD have emotions that line up with the players ideals: a player playing a Paragon Shepard should have a Shepard with kind, sympathetic inflections. A player playing a Renegade Shepard should have a Shepard with harsher, biting inflections. The player subconsciously MAKES their character take on one of these personas, and Meer's flat VA conflicts with both player's emotional expectations.

I think the main problem with Meer's VA is simply that it isn't his real voice. His "Shepard" voice is much deeper than his real one, which in turn gives up a LOT of his inflection in order to try and get that "sexy, low-tone commander" feel.