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[Rodriguer2000]

 what did you choose to do i chose to save them even though im renegade and what do you think will happen in mass effect 3 weather or not you chose to save or destroy them? I think that if you saved them they will help you fight the reapers

[Llandaryn]

I re-wrote them. Conflict is a cornerstone in every society, and I felt that simply destroying the Heretics would have deprived the geth of this valuable opportunity.

[Darkened Dragon]

I rewrote them as well. Mine being a Paragon doesn't take a life unless needed. Though he did not like the idea of brainwashing them either but it was the less of two evils to him. Not to mention that the Geth could help better with more "True Geth" helping in the incoming war with the reapers. Even if it was just via network linked resources. Then again at the end he basically told TIM where to stuff it because he's working "with" him now.

[trigger2kill1]

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[Darkened Dragon]

LOL trigger ... I almost forgot Legion and his claim of math differences with the heretics.

[trigger2kill1]

exactly only 1/100,000 difference

[ATKT]

I blow 'em up everytime except my forced-Paragon playthrough. There is a chance that they can simply be indoctrinated again, arrive at the conclusion that Reapers are their salvation, or fall prey to another virus altogether which gives someone control of an entire Geth army. It is bad enough that they already displaced an entire species of "naturally" occurring sapient beings. Coexistence seems unlikely. They may be a liability going into the future, even if rewritten.



Plus, Legion has one of the best lines when you voice your intention to blow them up at the beginning of the mission. Human morality cannot apply to the geth's collective conscience. Putting geth on the same level as other sapients is actually more racist and insensitive because you are not taking into account the fact that geth work and think drastically different from us. They do not have individuals, per se. There is no right or wrong to geth--only agreed upon conclusions made to have the most benefit.



To Llandryn, both options remove conflict, AFAIK--the rewritten virus forces them to see things one way, but with a chance of failure, and blowing them up simply removes the infected geth all together.

[Darkened Dragon]

Actually ATKT the rewrite option also gives the geth collective more information about the reapers and indoctrination. Legion does mention something along those lines as to what the collective will learn from the heretics if their rewritten.

[Skyblade012]

Rewriting the heretics gets rid of all the heretics that are networked. Blowing up the station only gets rid of the ones who are on the station. For galactic safety, rewrite them.

[DarthCaine]

It's pretty obvious which is the "right" choice if you do both and talk to Legion afterward:

Rewrite==Good Geth get stronger

Destroy their main base==Heretics want revenge

Modifié par DarthCaine, 27 février 2010 - 11:54 .

[Missouri Tigers]

On my first playthrough I didn't do it because I gave the stupid geth to Cerberus for study.  In my second playthrough, I killed 'em all because if I can kill geth, I will kill geth.

[Wintermaulz]

3 times killed em, 2 times rewrote.

[GenericPlayer2]

I always re-write them regardless of paragon/renegade alignment. I hate the Quarians and want to give the Geth every advantage.

[pc_wizard]

I didn't completely trust Legion and his "true" Geth, so I destroyed the Heretics.

[ATKT]

Darkened Dragon wrote...

Actually ATKT the rewrite option also gives the geth collective more information about the reapers and indoctrination. Legion does mention something along those lines as to what the collective will learn from the heretics if their rewritten.

But you only find out after you make the decision (I think).

Basically I'm starting to think that whatever decision you make, the story will change so that you made the "right" choice. If there is a "right" choice--there kind of isn't. Both choices have their pros and cons.

[JulianusApostate]

I distrust AI in all it's forms. I think we've had enough Terminator doomsday fiction scenarios that you just can NOT trust any sort of synthetic life. They don't do what's right, they do what is useful to them. It can be argued that we do too, but at least we have the concept of morality to work with. If I can send Legion and the geth at the reapers as front line troops for a distraction I will gladly do so.



So hell yes I blew them up. I want the quarians and humans to slaughter them ALL.

[KataraTrojan]

JulianusApostate wrote...

I distrust AI in all it's forms. I think we've had enough Terminator doomsday fiction scenarios that you just can NOT trust any sort of synthetic life. They don't do what's right, they do what is useful to them. It can be argued that we do too, but at least we have the concept of morality to work with. If I can send Legion and the geth at the reapers as front line troops for a distraction I will gladly do so.

So hell yes I blew them up. I want the quarians and humans to slaughter them ALL.

You humans are all racist!

[FFTARoxorz05]

Rewrote them since its the paragon thing to do. I hate that you have to choose stuff based on points rather than what you want to do, but you don't seem to get enough to matter until the last loyalty mission. So annoying...

[DRACO1130]

okay I am quite sure I 'over thought' this but I opted for re write for the following reasons :

1. geth forces in the IMMEDIATE area increase and swell ranks to oppose reapers.

2. The whole Husk and Spike change machines - Destroying the "heretics' would NOT have eliminated any existing Husks or machines for making more husks and I didn't want them left lying around.

3. I also was EXTREMELY disturbed by Legion admitting that the heretics had been able to lie to the geth collective mind BEFORE they split - this seemed to indicate to me that the Heretic geth were 'possessed' as the collector hive mind was - opting to 'destroy' their processing ability may have had the consequence of allowing the reapers to simply occupy several million mobile platforms.

4. I was deeply concerned at the lack of clarity as to what their 'destruction' would have meant - would they simply have all gotten the equivalent of lobotomies, thus leaving a LOT of space vessels, ground installations and mobile platforms simply drifting vacantly, awaiting whoever or whatever might find and use them.

5. and I was also concerned about the overreaction of the Quarians - having the heretic geth go dormant or explode in the quarians face - either outcome was unacceptable - the one would greatly swell the Q fleet, already the largest in the galaxy, the other may have led to the crippling of the same because of close proximity to them.

6. I also had in my mind that IF the heretics did rejoin the geth collective, the chance that in ME3 they may provide an abundance of intel on the reapers ONLY if I dont destroy them in me2.

In a nutshell - I had Legion as a trusted ally, I extended that trust to the 'reformed' heretics.

[knightnblu]

I re-wrote them. Figured they would be shock troops in ME3. Between the geth and the Rachni I let loose, I should be able to face down the reapers without council support.

[mybudgee]

Hell yeah!! Die synthetics!! DIE!!!

[Llandaryn]

ATKT wrote...

To Llandryn, both options remove conflict, AFAIK--the rewritten virus forces them to see things one way, but with a chance of failure, and blowing them up simply removes the infected geth all together.

Yes, but what I mean is, killing the Heretics ends the conflict immediately, and the geth don't have to think about it again. Re-writing them means that the geth will always have to 'live' with the choice Shepard makes -- as Legon says, the returned Heretics isolate themselves for a wihle to "consider" things, and will eventually return to the Borg collective geth hubs when they are ready. There is still a chance of conflict. The Heretics will know what has been done to them, and they might react violently to it. It would be the equivalent of a race's civil war; we know that humans have had civil wars, and turians too, as well as krogans. Not sure about the other races, but it seems only right to give the geth this 'experience' of conflict within themselves.

[Zulu_DFA]

Rodriguer2000 wrote...

 what did you choose to do i chose to save them even though im renegade and what do you think will happen in mass effect 3 weather or not you chose to save or destroy them? I think that if you saved them they will help you fight the reapers

As with any choice it may go either way:

Heretics blown up: things remain as they are. True geth continue to build therir Dyson superstructure, Heretics (remaining pockets) continue their petty hooliganism here and there.

Heretics overwritten: They rejoin the true Geth, and all Geth get "perspective" either to snap out of their autism and help save the galaxy, or to reassess their Orthodoxy and decide, that the Hereics were right! (And then organics are in deep sh*t.)

Rachni: if the queen was spared, they may either join with organics to fight the Reapers in the Grand Final Battle, or be indoctrinated (again, or for the first time) and cause mauch trouble. (In the long run -- after the Reapers destruction -- the Rachi are bound to cause trouble, being fast breeding insectoid life form)

Council saved: Races united against the Reapers but unprepared to fight (Ah, yes, "Reapers"...)
Council dead, all-human-council established: Races (Humans and Turians mostly) don't trust each other and start an arms race, thus having more force (dreadnoughts) for counterstrike when sh*t hits the fan, although they would not have been expecting that.

That said, the question remains: are those "BIG CHOICES" going to really bite us in the arse, or just to affect the final cutscene and the lines of superimposed Epilogue.

[DRACO1130]

Something missed - the ORIGINAL 'virus' which came from Sovereign and would have re written the 'true' geth into reaper slaves CAME FROM THE REAPERS - couple this with the fact that the re write will NOT happen immediately and you have a ripe situation for a geth civil war - the reapers backing the heretics and the quarians backing the true geth - ort else doing everything they can to foster conflict between BOTH sides so they can pick up the pieces - either way the GAP between Legion's Loyalty mission and the re write occurring is a GAP that the Reapers (or maybe Cerberus) can exploit. A third possibility is that there will be a mini conflict between those heretics who have had rewrite and those who as yet have not - recall Legion saying that he could not understand how the heretics had 'concealed' their thoughts before departing the true geth - The chance that bioware is going to get this correct with attention to all the pertinent details and possibilities seems to be getting ever smaller.

[Arhka]

I destroyed the Heretics. Even as Paragon, giving them more reasons to cooperate with the Quarians would help broker peace between them. Also, as awesome as Legion is, I don't think Geth on the front lines would be prudent, as Reapers have already proven they can hack Geth, so what's stopping them from releasing another Virus? Rather have Geth as aces in the hole rather than a significant part of anti-Reaper forces.