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Disappointment With Mass Effect 2? An Open Discussion.


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Lumikki wrote...

Nope, that was just hardcore difficulty. I haven't played in insanity difficulty at all, it doesn't make game better, just more work.


Even on hardcore there come out three of them charging shepardt and his team.(Ferros tunnels)
Krogans now are something to laugh about.They dont even use assault rifles anymore,only shotguns at all ranges.This is definetly dumbed down gameplay.

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tonnactus wrote...

Dont come with the argument that the game told me so....
You see,this game make a lot sense.


I haven't played Galaxy either (or read any of the books/comics). Miranda was the leader of the Lazarus cell and Jacob was an officer under her. Not to mention that Jacob had served in alliance military.

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tonnactus wrote...

Even on hardcore there come out three of them charging shepardt and his team.(Ferros tunnels)
Krogans now are something to laugh about.They dont even use assault rifles anymore,only shotguns at all ranges.This is definetly dumbed down gameplay.


Enemies don't scale well enough. Just tested an my singularity lasts 14 seconds and had 16-17 second cooldown. That's just stupid.

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Yes, but that was 30 levels ago. You know how I fought 2 Geth Armatures and 3 Geth Destroyers (the ones with rapid fire rocket launchers) in Feros skyway? Ran around them keeping the Destroyers in Singularity and Armatures Lifted or Thrown.


Destroyers are the geth that make the melee attacks.The big red ones are geth juggernauts.Sabotage isnt worser then singuality there.Its better because of the 10 meter radious and the duration.

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Sabotage isnt worser then singuality there.Its better because of the 10 meter radious and the duration.


So if it isn't "worser" is it betterer?

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KitsuneRommel wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Dont come with the argument that the game told me so....
You see,this game make a lot sense.


I haven't played Galaxy either (or read any of the books/comics). Miranda was the leader of the Lazarus cell and Jacob was an officer under her. Not to mention that Jacob had served in alliance military.

And the lazarus project was what? This is like saying that someone who could lead a company could be a good general.
I ask what the combat and command experience is that jacob and miranda have.

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tonnactus wrote...

And the lazarus project was what? This is like saying that someone who could lead a company could be a good general. I ask what the combat and command experience is that jacob and miranda have.

Miranda has leadership skill and Jacob was corsair?

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And the lazarus project was what? This is like saying that someone who could lead a company could be a good general.
I ask what the combat and command experience is that jacob and miranda have.


I doubt that resurrecting Shepard was the only thing she did in Cerberus. But if you want to split hairs we didn't see Garrus leading anything either.

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Lumikki wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

And the lazarus project was what? This is like saying that someone who could lead a company could be a good general. I ask what the combat and command experience is that jacob and miranda have.

Miranda has leadership skill and Jacob was corsair?


I repeat myself: I dont care if the game said so.What these both ever accomplished?

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KitsuneRommel wrote...

I doubt that resurrecting Shepard was the only thing she did in Cerberus. But if you want to split hairs we didn't see Garrus leading anything either.

Garrus was C-sec officer and did lead team of 11 squad member in omega,

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I doubt that resurrecting Shepard was the only thing she did in Cerberus. But if you want to split hairs we didn't see Garrus leading anything either.


Garrus leading was good enough that three merc groups unite to kill his team.Without the betrayal of sidonis not even this would help against his group.

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And the lazarus project was what? This is like saying that someone who could lead a company could be a good general.
I ask what the combat and command experience is that jacob and miranda have.


All I can think of is:

Jacob is former Alliance military, who served with the Corsairs.  As such, he's familiar wit military dicipline, the chain of command, taking and giving out orders.  Tat and he was head of security at the Lazarus Station.  To be honest, I was surprised he was on the list as a "leader" type.  Though  I guess since is loyalty mission is all about leadership qualities and an ineffective leader, maybe I shouldn't have been.

Miranda is a gentically engineered Mary Poppins "practically perfect in every way" She was the head of the Lazarus Project and your first officer on the Normandy 2.  Her loyalty mission demonstrated how willing she was to protect those they felt were her responsibility.  The real selling point for me was the first officer part.

Yeah there's some serious logical yoga going on tere.  But you can make it fit Posted Image

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Lumikki wrote...

Garrus was C-sec officer and did lead team of 11 squad member in omega,


Somehow I don't see C-Sec having much battlefield experience. And yes, the squad that died.

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Jacob is former Alliance military, who served with the Corsairs.  As such, he's familiar wit military dicipline, the chain of command, taking and giving out orders.  Tat and he was head of security at the Lazarus Station.  To be honest, I was surprised he was on the list as a "leader" type.  Though  I guess since is loyalty mission is all about leadership qualities and an ineffective leader, maybe I shouldn't have been.


Well, miranda wish him good luck with his first command. You see how dumb this game is at some times?Where is the actual experience to demand loyality? I guess tim was wrong about shepardt.He is not the only natural leader out there.:o

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Well, miranda wish him good luck with his first command. You see how dumb this game is at some times?Where is the actual experience to demand loyality? I guess tim was wrong about shepardt.He is not the only natural leader out there.:o


Obviously we should have recruited Admiral Hackett and Anderson.

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Lumikki wrote...

Garrus was C-sec officer and did lead team of 11 squad member in omega,


Somehow I don't see C-Sec having much battlefield experience. And yes, the squad that died.


Yes,like almost all the personal of the lazarus station.But wilsons betrayal was much easier to spot then that of sidonis.

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Lumikki wrote...

Garrus was C-sec officer and did lead team of 11 squad member in omega,


Somehow I don't see C-Sec having much battlefield experience. And yes, the squad that died.


C-Sec handles terrorists and piracy as well as street crime.  Garrus is also former turian military.  Also, his squad was proving to be very effective while it lasted.  In te end, they died because he was lured away before the ambush.  He wasn't there at the time to lead it.  As far as leaders go, he makes the most sense of the tree.

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KitsuneRommel wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Well, miranda wish him good luck with his first command. You see how dumb this game is at some times?Where is the actual experience to demand loyality? I guess tim was wrong about shepardt.He is not the only natural leader out there.:o


Obviously we should have recruited Admiral Hackett and Anderson.

Garrus and Zaeed would make sense.Hell,even legion.He has the experience of a whole war in his memories.

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Yes,like almost all the personal of the lazarus station.But wilsons betrayal was much easier to spot then that of sidonis.


If it even was a real betrayal.

Anyway a better question would be why Miranda wasn't a tech specialist? Did she have Overload just for fun?

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tonnactus wrote...

iakus wrote...


Jacob is former Alliance military, who served with the Corsairs.  As such, he's familiar wit military dicipline, the chain of command, taking and giving out orders.  Tat and he was head of security at the Lazarus Station.  To be honest, I was surprised he was on the list as a "leader" type.  Though  I guess since is loyalty mission is all about leadership qualities and an ineffective leader, maybe I shouldn't have been.


Well, miranda wish him good luck with his first command. You see how dumb this game is at some times?Where is the actual experience to demand loyality? I guess tim was wrong about shepardt.He is not the only natural leader out there.:o


I always thought ME 2 as a whole could have been just as easily handled with Jacob as the lead (for a male character) or Miranda (for female)

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tonnactus wrote...

Garrus and Zaeed would make sense.Hell,even legion.He has the experience of a whole war in his memories.


Yes, he did form the Blue Suns but after that he's been a simple bounty hunter and besides after witnessing his actions during his loyalty mission would you REALLY let him lead a squad?

And Legion? Leading?

Edit: Forgot to add that you don't have to activate Legion and Zaeed is a DLC.

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iakus wrote...

 Garrus is also former turian military.


Apparently serving in military doesn't make you good enough leader for some people.

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So say if there's a DLC that's released. Dialogue DLC. 2 hours of nothing but chattin' with your LI for example. Would you download it? Not just to say you played it, but would you/could you actually enjoy 2 hours straight of a game without your thumb getting twitchy for shooting and *that word*?


Yes, I'd enjoy that. And why would my thumbs be getting twitchy, I use my thumb to take cover and interact.

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tonnactus wrote...

Yes,its a tactic.Without a biotic the krogans would overwhelm you easily.There are tactics for surviving and some tactics to kill things faster.You are the one who liked teamplay,right.So in this case,in early levels(and for an engineer on insanity for all levels) a biotic is essential to have at this place.
Like its good to have a tech at the end of the mission to damp the biotics of the asari clone.


That just seems to me that the player is being punished for not being able to predict or forgetting that he/she has to fight Krogan. If you forget the Biotic, you're screwed and have to go back to an earlier save point. Using Biotics to take down Krogan is a tactic, remembering to take a biotic is more like strategy/ESP.


Warp and Overload exists in Mass Effect too.But they were also taktics to improve your survival rate...


Um, so?

Yes,if its not your own drone.


I really fail to see how it's a bad tactic, if it worked which it did. In fact it took a lot of fire off my Vanguard Shepherd so I was able to Biotic Charge him (without any kind of "can't reach the target" "bug") and finish him off much more easily. That's teamwork.

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Too bad that Mass Effect 2 is a mostly a generic Soap Opera with a science fiction robe.Most quests are just boring.Only the ones that expand the knowledge about the Mass Effect Universe,like that of samara,grunt,legion or tali are worth it. All other ones are a waste of time.Mostly just another reasons to slain mercs.


I give up I really do...