smudboy wrote...
RyuGuitarFreak wrote...
"The
fact that none of Shepard's qualities/reasons why Cerberus brought
Shepard back are even used in the story is what makes it tellingly
absurd." One of his qualities told by Illusive Man is his charisma. That
is shown in the game at even gathering effed'up people like
Jack, Samara or Grunt, the player as Shepard can manage to gather their
trust.
k thx bai.
"Sheaprd charisma", or
Shepard'scommunication skills, isn't plot vital. Side characters are
collected because TIM says so, and they join Shepard because Shepard
asks them to.
Anyone could've talked to those eff'ed up
characters and gotten them to: 1) join, 2) be managed, 3) gathered their
trust. The Shepard persona isn't exactly a Human Resource/Used Car
Salesman guru. It's purposely really flat.
If all they needed
was someone with charisma...
I didn't say it was plot vital. I was questioning your affirmation that Shepard's qualities weren't used in the story. One of the qualities were his "communication skills". See below.
IoCaster wrote...
RyuGuitarFreak wrote...
"The fact that none of Shepard's qualities/reasons why Cerberus brought Shepard back are even used in the story is what makes it tellingly absurd." One of his qualities told by Illusive Man is his charisma. That is shown in the game at even gathering effed'up people like Jack, Samara or Grunt, the player as Shepard can manage to gather their trust.
k thx bai.
How is this evident in the game?
Tali and Garrus are colleagues from ME and it makes sense that they're willing to join the team.
1. Jacob - Worked for Cerberus before Shepard is brought on the scene. Don't need to recruit.
2. Miranda - Career Cerberus operative and doesn't really trust Shepard initially. Don't need to recruit.
3. Grunt - Tank bred and recently hatched. How would he have any idea who Shepard is?
4. Jack - Doesn't care about Shepard and only joins the team to get access to Cerberus files.
5. Mordin - A retired Salarian operative that joins the team because Shepard makes a deal to kill some Vorcha and cure the plague.
6. Samara - Joins the team because Shepard gets her the information about Morinth.
7. Thane - He's the only one that I can recall, other than Miranda or Jacob, that makes any reference to Shepards history and reputation.
8. Zaeed - A hired mercenary.
9. Kasumi - A hired mercenary. She refers to herself as a fan, so a case can be made that she was personally influenced by Shepards 'charisma'.
10. Legion - Not sure what to make of a creepy Geth stalker and what might possibly motivate it.
I'm not sure how 'charisma' and 'natural leadership ability' actually plays such a large role in recruiting the majority of these characters. If you don't do their loyalty missions, all of that 'charisma' and 'leadership ability' doesn't seem to matter anyway.
Hmmm. There are two major situations in the game I can come up with now.
SPOILER POTENTIAL 1 - Jack and Miranda fight. Take Shepard out of that, they maybe could end up killing themselves, even if Shepard maybe had to give up one's loyalty. Tali and Legion - the same outcome or worse, a new war of geth and quarrians.
I will always question these kind of rationale because earning the squad trust is vital to the end. Notice the fact that having the squad's trust is vital to Shepard's
survival and the continuation of his quest on ME3. If Shepard doesn't
survive, we simply can assume that...the reapers won.
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, then they could really be reduced to optional side missions, making the main campaign rather short. Just my thoughts though.
