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Disappointment With Mass Effect 2? An Open Discussion.

Débuté par Darth Drago , févr. 27 2010 11:26

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jlb524
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:18

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ShepardWrex wrote...

ME1 had more sex. There's no controversy with ME2.

Tell me how having sex before reaching Ilos is remotely relevant to the main story.

Or you can tell me how unimportant the main story was to you in the first place.


It isn't relevant to the main story, but it was relevant to my Shepard's story.  That's usually how RPG's work...you have the main story (which is very important to me believe it or not) and then you have the individual story of the protagonist that players get to customize to their desire.  That is also important to me.  A romance subplot is one piece of the protagonist's individual story, just as background and military history are, just as the decisions your Shepard makes during the mission that determine 'Renegade' and 'Paragon' leanings for your Shepard, etc.

Modifié par jlb524, 05 juin 2010 - 05:19 .

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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:19

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JeanLuc761 wrote...

ShepardWrex wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ShepardWrex wrote...

1. EA tells BW to put more romances
2. BW puts more romances to gain more fans
3. EA wins


So, you don't really have a problem with BW doing romances (as they have always done them even prior to the EA thing), but you have a problem with them tossing in more for ME2 (ME1 had three, ME2 had six) at the expense of other areas of the game, correct?

ME1 had more sex. There's no controversy with ME2.

Tell me how having sex before reaching Ilos is remotely relevant to the main story.

Or you can tell me how unimportant the main story was to you in the first place.

On that tangent, I could ask this.
How is Conrad Verner remotely relevant to the main story?

He's not, but that's not the point.  He's there to add depth, to add life, just as the romances are.

EA  APOLOGIST!!!!1!!1!

#4378
Pocketgb
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:20

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Darth Drago wrote...

They are completely optional so why is there such a fuss?


Like I said before: same fuss as if ME3 had multiplayer.

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Calculatrice
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:20

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FsDxRAGE wrote...

Calculatrice wrote...

This is good. Hey Rage, pass the snacks.

*hands over Cheetoes*


Nice one. I totally set myself up for that one.^_^

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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:20

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WrexShepard, I mean for the last night you have before you save the galaxy and possibly die.

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ShepardWrex
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:20

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phonypapercut wrote...

ShepardWrex wrote...


Tell me how having sex before reaching Ilos is remotely relevant to the main story.

Sapient beings apparently like to have sex. Get a bunch of them together and it's going to happen.

Ok, next game, Shepard will have an orgy with the entire squaddie cast before facing the Reapers.

Controversy!!!

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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:20

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FsDxRAGE wrote...

WrexShepard, I mean for the last night you have before you save the galaxy and possibly die.

He'd rest, and get some sleep for his big day.

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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:21

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ShepardWrex wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

ShepardWrex wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ShepardWrex wrote...

1. EA tells BW to put more romances
2. BW puts more romances to gain more fans
3. EA wins


So, you don't really have a problem with BW doing romances (as they have always done them even prior to the EA thing), but you have a problem with them tossing in more for ME2 (ME1 had three, ME2 had six) at the expense of other areas of the game, correct?

ME1 had more sex. There's no controversy with ME2.

Tell me how having sex before reaching Ilos is remotely relevant to the main story.

Or you can tell me how unimportant the main story was to you in the first place.

what would be the last thing you would want to do before you might die? I am actually curious

Save the galaxy.

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David Knight
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:22

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Should I post some more bait?

#4385
FsDxRAGE
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:22

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ShepardWrex wrote...

phonypapercut wrote...

ShepardWrex wrote...


Tell me how having sex before reaching Ilos is remotely relevant to the main story.

Sapient beings apparently like to have sex. Get a bunch of them together and it's going to happen.

Ok, next game, Shepard will have an orgy with the entire squaddie cast before facing the Reapers.

Controversy!!!

*Shepard looks at Zaeed*
Shepard: Come here babe.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]
Zaeed: Okay.:wub:

THIS IS A FACT NOT AN OPINION

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ShepardWrex
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:22

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jlb524 wrote...

ShepardWrex wrote...

ME1 had more sex. There's no controversy with ME2.

Tell me how having sex before reaching Ilos is remotely relevant to the main story.

Or you can tell me how unimportant the main story was to you in the first place.


It isn't relevant to the main story, but it was relevant to my Shepard's story.  That's usually how RPG's work...you have the main story (which is very important to me believe it or not) and then you have the individual story of the protagonist that players get to customize to their desire.  That is also important to me.  A romance subplot is one piece of the protagonist's individual story, just as background and military history are, just as the decisions your Shepard makes during the mission that determine 'Renegade' and 'Paragon' leanings for your Shepard, etc.

So as long as someone gets to deviate from the main story, it's a good RPG?

ME2 deviates non-stop, what with its six romances resulting in six good RPG elements and its utterly disconnected mission sequence.

Or not.

#4387
The Mythical Magician
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:22

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*Asks for some popcorn*

This is getting interesting to watch

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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:22

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David Knight wrote...

Should I post some more bait?

Sure, I just got out a new bag of popcorn.

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FsDxRAGE
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:22

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Somebody1003 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

WrexShepard, I mean for the last night you have before you save the galaxy and possibly die.

He'd rest, and get some sleep for his big day.

maybe watch a movie? Read a book?

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Calculatrice
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:22

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David Knight wrote...

Should I post some more bait?

Post away.

#4391
ShepardWrex
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:22

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David Knight wrote...

Should I post some more bait?

Why not? I'm the only one sticking to the actual topic of the thread.

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FsDxRAGE
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:23

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The Mythical Magician wrote...

*Asks for some popcorn*
This is getting interesting to watch

*passes over bucket without looking away from screen*

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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:23

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ShepardWrex wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ShepardWrex wrote...

ME1 had more sex. There's no controversy with ME2.

Tell me how having sex before reaching Ilos is remotely relevant to the main story.

Or you can tell me how unimportant the main story was to you in the first place.


It isn't relevant to the main story, but it was relevant to my Shepard's story.  That's usually how RPG's work...you have the main story (which is very important to me believe it or not) and then you have the individual story of the protagonist that players get to customize to their desire.  That is also important to me.  A romance subplot is one piece of the protagonist's individual story, just as background and military history are, just as the decisions your Shepard makes during the mission that determine 'Renegade' and 'Paragon' leanings for your Shepard, etc.

So as long as someone gets to deviate from the main story, it's a good RPG?

ME2 deviates non-stop, what with its six romances resulting in six good RPG elements and its utterly disconnected mission sequence.

Or not.

So then you want it completely linear, with nothing else added.

Wont that be fun. /sarcasm

#4394
MrBoomba
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:23

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ShepardWrex wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...
what would be the last thing you would want to do before you might die? I am actually curious

Save the galaxy.


I am so torn on how to reply to this I will do it in poetry... Roses are red, Violets are blue, if this is what you think, then I truely pitty you.

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Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:24

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FsDxRAGE wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

WrexShepard, I mean for the last night you have before you save the galaxy and possibly die.

He'd rest, and get some sleep for his big day.

maybe watch a movie? Read a book?

Throw back a few beers.

#4396
JeanLuc761
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:24

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*EDIT
Somebody beat me to it.

Modifié par JeanLuc761, 05 juin 2010 - 05:24 .

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jlb524
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:27

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ShepardWrex wrote...

So as long as someone gets to deviate from the main story, it's a good RPG?

ME2 deviates non-stop, what with its six romances resulting in six good RPG elements and its utterly disconnected mission sequence.

Or not.


No.  I don't think ME2 had a good story at all.  You assume it was just because of the romances.  This makes no sense to me.  It is possible to have a masterfully written main story and then also to have romances/friendships/other types of character development going on with the PC and other characters.  These two things aren't mutually exclusive.

ME2 had a completely crap story...maybe it's b/c they added more romances, maybe not, but you cannot say that romance subplots (or even friendship ones) will always cause a deviation from the main story.

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FsDxRAGE
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:28

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Is the show over?

#4399
David Knight
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:28

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ShepardWrex wrote...

David Knight wrote...

Should I post some more bait?

Why not? I'm the only one sticking to the actual topic of the thread.


Hey, he took it :D

ShepWrex, there are other opinions out there. Just because we have them doesn't mean we are EA apologists.

And seriously, what DID Jean-Luc being a Talimancer have to do with anything? So much for you sticking to the topic :/

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AlanC9
Posté 05 juin 2010 - 05:28

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FsDxRAGE wrote...

*intensely throws popcorn in mouth*


Yeah, this thread's definitely taken a turn. I'm kinda feeling sorry for Darth Drago -- I don't think this is quite what he intended.

I'm tempted to pour a little more gasoline on now.

Modifié par AlanC9, 05 juin 2010 - 05:29 .

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