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[maverick2789]

Mass Effect 1 was way better than Mass Effect 2, but the good points in Mass Effect 2, and I'll probably get a lot of disagreeing with this, is that the graphics were way nicer, and you got to go to some new places, yes the armor mod was a drawback, but so was the casual Dressing, Like c'mon, Shepard has only four casual suits?

Liara was nice to be seen in the game again, but she sounded like a robot whenever she spoke.

And, from the last post I said, it seemed to be short with most things like romance, hopefully in Mass Effect 3, the workers at Bioware actually LOOK at most of this stuff and extend the qualities, sure it was supposed to feel like a different game, but  it has serious drawback on ALL of the cool things.

[custodis]

Busomjack wrote...



People who don't like Mass Effect 2 fail at life. End of discussion.

Seconded...



Nothing that human beings touch will ever be perfect or flawless. With ME2 the Dev team really outdid themselves to achieve that perfection.. and it shows!! it seeps through the game-play anyone oblivious to that amount of love & effort just fails...

[Darth Drago]

Just stopping in here to day to add this.

Poll results so far:

Disappointed with Mass Effect 2?
-Disappointed (360 user) 9%(161 votes)
-Disappointed (pc user) 13%(216 votes)
-Not disappointed(360 user) 35%(590 votes)
-Not disappointed (pc user) 43%(728 votes)

Did you prefer the Mako or did you prefer Planet Scanning?
-I liked the Mako better than planet scanning. 49%(301 votes)
-I liked planet scanning more than the mako. 24%(146 votes)
-I hated both equally. 17%(106 votes)
-I liked both equally. 8%(50 votes)

Mass Effect 1 vs. Mass Effect 2
-Mass Effect 1 39%(217 votes)
-Mass Effect 2 61%(345 votes)

Are you disappointed with the Firewalker DLC?
-Yes, very disappointed! 51%(221 votes)
-No, not disappointed at all! 34%(145 votes)
-I don't care. 15%(64 votes)

See the first posting in this topic for links to each so you can vote if you haven’t yet.


* Thanks to everyone for the input on your opinions and for keeping it civil.

Modifié par Darth Drago, 24 mars 2010 - 03:29 .

[kyle-mac]

exxxed wrote...
...BUT Bio stated that they ****ed up, so we can expect a more in-depth not-so-much-linear GAME FINALE... hopefully!

did i miss something? when did anyone from bioware ever say that? i haven't seen that anywhere.

[TrumpetzGuy55]

I absolutely loved both of the ME games. Both had their high and low points. inevitably.





Things I loved about ME 2: Graphics, combat system, colors, new Normandy , Legion, Thane, Mordin. Power wheel. Ilium, meeting with people i talked to in ME 1 (Conrad, Gianna, Rachni queen)





Things I miss: exploration (on planets). HUB WORLDS (they felt really small and one my favorite things to do is just cruise the Citadel...id like more of them). Long side missions...(there was almost no talking in them and they were quite short). Admiral Hackett. Squad Banter. Inventory (i dont want ME 1's but i want more than Me 2's)



THings i would change: Make HUBs bigger. A few more weapons. More on planet exploration so i have things to do after i beat the game. have more than a few sentence conversation with Anderson and others. Talking in general, not about the mission, just about other fun things. More missions on Hub worlds. i.e Bhatia mission of Citadel, The Consort, helping out people to make some credits. oh....I want to talk to Elcor and Hanar i didnt get to see the preaching hanar





But ME 2 is still an awesome game i loved it

[Klimy]

I think ME2 is ok, it has bazzilion (is there such a word anyway?) things that are missing or people want expected differently.



Two major problems I have are: lack of items (Im talking about normal weapons and armor parts) and half baked storry.



I don't recall what interview it was, but last or this weak n4g.com had a link to a video interview with BW, and Dr. Ray Muzyka said that they left many things in ME2 unfinished or unaswered that they plan to cover up in future DLC/Expansions.

So if you are okey with paying money and replay game then I guess ME2 will be just fine with time. So far think of it as a platform for future content. And at some point game will be complete.



This is not a popular idea (to buy DLC to finish the story) but its better than being stuck with lots of questions.

[D.I.Y_Death]

After playing ME1 again I'd actually say ME2 is a massive improvement on nearly every aspect.

The only real things that ME2 needs so something better then planet scanning that mixes seamlessly with the plot, no more T-800s hanging suspended in cargo holds, more advancement in the LI sub plot and more "loyalty" missions. The mission completed screens were lame too, totally ruined the immersion of ME1.



The game mechanics were pretty solid, although lacking balance.

[Klimy]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

After playing ME1 again I'd actually say ME2 is a massive improvement on nearly every aspect.
The only real things that ME2 needs so something better then planet scanning that mixes seamlessly with the plot, no more T-800s hanging suspended in cargo holds, more advancement in the LI sub plot and more "loyalty" missions. The mission completed screens were lame too, totally ruined the immersion of ME1.

The game mechanics were pretty solid, although lacking balance.

Agree, "mission complete raport" and "press B to finish the mission" did dmg the atmosphere of the game. It didn't feel like we were on one big trip for mambo-jambo cookie hunt, but rather usual SP of many other games, where missions have little to do with overall plot... Maybe instead it was some sort of cut-scean where they show us "mean while back at the other side of the galaxy" or something. Can't say its a huge problem for me, but ruther a slight bummer.

[exxxed]

kyle-mac wrote...

exxxed wrote...
...BUT Bio stated that they ****ed up, so we can expect a more in-depth not-so-much-linear GAME FINALE... hopefully!

did i miss something? when did anyone from bioware ever say that? i haven't seen that anywhere.

 Well not exactly with those words, but i like to read between the lines, some things have been mentioned in Christina Norman's interview at GDC which led me to believe that they actually kind of admitted that.

 Anyway here's a video interview pre-GDC starring Christina Norman and ME 2 changes xD:

http://www.justin.tv...79e1809c57cc535

[Darth Drago]

Klimy wrote...

I think ME2 is ok, it has bazzilion (is there such a word anyway?) things that are missing or people want expected differently.

Two major problems I have are: lack of items (Im talking about normal weapons and armor parts) and half baked storry.

I don't recall what interview it was, but last or this weak n4g.com had a link to a video interview with BW, and Dr. Ray Muzyka said that they left many things in ME2 unfinished or unaswered that they plan to cover up in future DLC/Expansions.
So if you are okey with paying money and replay game then I guess ME2 will be just fine with time. So far think of it as a platform for future content. And at some point game will be complete.

This is not a popular idea (to buy DLC to finish the story) but its better than being stuck with lots of questions.

-Do you think you can find a link to that interview? I had always suspected that ME2 was rushed out the door AND incomplete. I’m not fond of having to wait a year or so and pay for downloads just so I can get the full game it should have been in the first place.

exxxed wrote...

Well not exactly with those words, but i like to read between the lines, some things have been mentioned in Christina Norman's interview at GDC which led me to believe that they actually kind of admitted that.

Anyway here's a video interview pre-GDC starring Christina Norman and ME 2 changes xD:

http://www.justin.tv/clip/279e1809c57cc535

-Thanks for the link, here is Part 2 (only a few minutes)  http://www.justin.tv/clip/16a8d17118cb04a0




The Abridged Mass Effect 2, a must read. http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/1777005

Modifié par Darth Drago, 26 mars 2010 - 12:58 .

[hicser03]

Im liking mass effect 2 so far alot but the dialogue when talking to certain crew member's was lack luster especially possible Love interests, seems if im not romaning them then they havent got much to say to me.



I really missed the mako planet exploration although it was very poorly designed the fact that i actually got to free roam on planets was great and i was exspecting a better mako and more fleshed out planets but got the bloody planet scanner instead -.-.



I understand why they dropped the inventory system it was really cumbersome on the xbox ( didnt even know you could get it for pc at the time ) but i love collecting new equipment and fitting out my characters, there was tons of useless weapons etc on ME1 ill admit but they could of streamlined the amount of junk you got, improved the inventory system and left some of the customization from Me1 in ME 2.



Unlike the majority of people i quite enjoyed the HH dlc my exspectation's were very low since i brought wardens keep for DA:O and it was rubbish imo, and since the HH was free i thought the quality would be low but was pleasantly suprised my only wish it had the same weapons as the mako albiet with gun that actually shoots where the reticule is pointing.



And lastly the storyline in ME1 was alot better not saying that Me2's is terrible but it cant hold a flame to the first game so overall id say i prefer the first one but it was my introduction into the mass effect universe so no doubt it would have a greater feeling of epicness than the second but ME2 is still a great game and in reality im usually the type of person that would rip into it for being dumbed down but im am really enjoying it just hope some of the features from 1 get reintroduced in 3.

[fabricebouye]

The PC version came out 6 months after the XBOX version.

[Klimy]

Darth Drago wrote...

-Do you think you can find a link to that interview? I had always suspected that ME2 was rushed out the door AND incomplete. I’m not fond of having to wait a year or so and pay for downloads just so I can get the full game it should have been in the first place.

I'll try to find it when I'll get home. But it was not like "rushed out of the door", but as I understood it was intensional. That they planed to keep few open places so that later they could make proper "extensions" to the main story.

Maybe it would be expansion, Like Awakening, but instead of seperated story we will have a game that covers up some of the missed parts of the storry. As I see it: once you buy all DLC and Expansions (if there will be any) then the ME2 game will have a complete storry without any open endings.

[Tazzmission]

Klimy wrote...

Darth Drago wrote...

-Do you think you can find a link to that interview? I had always suspected that ME2 was rushed out the door AND incomplete. I’m not fond of having to wait a year or so and pay for downloads just so I can get the full game it should have been in the first place.

I'll try to find it when I'll get home. But it was not like "rushed out of the door", but as I understood it was intensional. That they planed to keep few open places so that later they could make proper "extensions" to the main story.

Maybe it would be expansion, Like Awakening, but instead of seperated story we will have a game that covers up some of the missed parts of the storry. As I see it: once you buy all DLC and Expansions (if there will be any) then the ME2 game will have a complete storry without any open endings.

i wouldnt mind a expanstion pack for me2. i love both games but i do agree the story seemed a bit hit and miss when it came to the collectors. and the end boss batle was .... cheesey.... i rarley complain but i admit the last boss felt like it had no creative idea to it. i still give this game a 9. now as far as me1 go's i think its a instant classic do to story alone and saren's fight wich i give me1 a perfect 10. both games are great but me1 will always be the classic

[Darth Drago]

Klimy wrote...

I'll try to find it when I'll get home. But it was not like "rushed out of the door", but as I understood it was intensional. That they planed to keep few open places so that later they could make proper "extensions" to the main story.

Maybe it would be expansion, Like Awakening, but instead of seperated story we will have a game that covers up some of the missed parts of the storry. As I see it: once you buy all DLC and Expansions (if there will be any) then the ME2 game will have a complete storry without any open endings.

-Hopefully you will find it just to clarify things up more for the better or worse.

If it was intentional game content that helped the main plot of ME2 that they cut then that still doesn’t work for me. I still have to wait until they get a round to finishing them, if they will add those things to get to play a full game. It would be like getting a book and finding out that your missing a few chapters that the publisher ripped out.

kajtarp wrote...

Darth Drago wrote...

Poll results so far:

Did you prefer the Mako or did you prefer Planet Scanning?
-I liked the Mako better than planet scanning. 49%(301 votes)
-I liked planet scanning more than the mako. 24%(146 votes)
-I hated both equally. 17%(106 votes)
-I liked both equally. 8%(50 votes)

There is no sense in the "did you prefer the Mako or the planet scanning " voting. Mass Effect 2's planetary scanning supposed to replace the simple scan from Mass Effect 1, and the firewalker supposed to replace the Mako ... Dont mix that please .... If you do something, then do it properly or dont do it at all...

-I’m going on a hunch that you didn’t go to the link to that poll. It has nothing to do with what they do or what replaces them in either game. Its about what the players prefer out of the two choices since a lot of people seemed to hate the Mako from ME1 and now a lot of people hate the Planet Scanning in ME2. You could call it a poll about what annoys you less, the Mako or Planet Scanning.


The Abridged Mass Effect 2, a must read. In the Spoilers Forum. http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/1777005

Modifié par Darth Drago, 27 mars 2010 - 05:28 .

[Domyk]

Mass effect 2 > 1, carry on

[Hulk Hsieh]

Very disappointed by the fact that ME3 won't be available tomorrow.

[Radwar]

GodWood wrote...

ME2 has its flaws (like every other game) but it is better in pretty much every way then ME1.

Oh please. You think that changing ammo types which were upgrades for your weapons in ME1 (which was perfect) to skills (which makes absolutely no sense at all) was a good idea?

Armors for you and your squad. All it needed was to be improved in a way that better armors are more easily accessible. You think it was a good idea to completely scrap your ability to buy your squad armor and leave you with only 2 choices (which looks the same mostly) and makes no sense most of the time like Jack wearing straps or Miranda wearing a skimpy outfit and yet have as much protection as someone with a full body armor?

You think it made sense to remove the fact that you could equip/unequip your helmet when you wanted to, and to even have the gall to make most armors have unequipable helmets which totally hides the face.

Also when it comes to story and twists, ME1 beats the crap out of ME2. Nowhere in ME2 do you have great moments like when you talk to Sovereign or Vigil.

Modifié par Radwar, 28 mars 2010 - 01:10 .

[Jaysonie]

Radwar wrote...

GodWood wrote...

ME2 has its flaws (like every other game) but it is better in pretty much every way then ME1.

Oh please. You think that changing ammo types which were upgrades for your weapons in ME1 (which was perfect) to skills (which makes absolutely no sense at all) was a good idea?

Armors for you and your squad. All it needed was to be improved in a way that better armors are more easily accessible. You think it was a good idea to completely scrap your ability to buy your squad armor and leave you with only 2 choices (which looks the same mostly) and makes no sense most of the time like Jack wearing straps or Miranda wearing a skimpy outfit and yet have as much protection as someone with a full body armor?

You think it made sense to remove the fact that you could equip/unequip your helmet when you wanted to, and to even have the gall to make most armors have unequipable helmets which totally hides the face.

Also when it comes to story and twists, ME1 beats the crap out of ME2. Nowhere in ME2 do you have great moments like when you talk to Sovereign or Vigil. All you have is the part where you learn that the Collector's are actually Protheans, and even that is done in a distastful way. "What the Collector's are the Protheans? Quick we must move since I don't want to end up like them", pfft.

The story was going to be weaker, if you could name a trilogy where the second part was better than the first ,i would loved to know. The second part of a trilogy's purpose is to build a bridge between the first and the third. The rest is opinion,  you shouldnt try to dissprove it because your not going to change his/her mind on the gameplay.

Modifié par Jaysonie, 28 mars 2010 - 01:47 .

[Darth Drago]

No spoilers please….



I don’t want to ruin the game for someone who hasn’t fully played it yet who just happens to look in here. Please edit anything revealing like the origin of the Collectors for example.

[Jaysonie]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Jaysonie wrote...


The story was going to be weaker, if you could name a trilogy where the second part was better than the first ,i would loved to know. The second part of a trilogy's purpose is to build a bridge between the first and the third. The rest is opinion,  you shouldnt try to dissprove it because your not going to change his/her mind on the gameplay.

God of War, Gears of War, Condemned, F.E.A.R., Uncharted, Assassins Creed, etc.

I disagree, i think a majority of those had weaker storys.

[Jaysonie]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Jaysonie wrote...

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Jaysonie wrote...


The story was going to be weaker, if you could name a trilogy where the second part was better than the first ,i would loved to know. The second part of a trilogy's purpose is to build a bridge between the first and the third. The rest is opinion,  you shouldnt try to dissprove it because your not going to change his/her mind on the gameplay.

God of War, Gears of War, Condemned, F.E.A.R., Uncharted, Assassins Creed, etc.

I disagree, i think a majority of those had weaker storys.

How about Halo, Fable, Resistance and Saints Row?

I'll go down the list then:
I dont play halo so i couldnt say.

Fable isnt really a trilogy, atleast not the way Mass Effect is. Seperate storys and all. Fable 1 and Fable 2 have almost nothing to do with each other.

Havent played Resistance or Gears of War, not a big shooter fan. Although, im guessing they didnt have big storys to begin with.

Saints Row, of course the seconds better. Your character actually talks.

I disliked God of Wars story, i hate uncharted due to my status as a tomb raider fanboy, FEAR 2 was weaker imo, Assasins Creeds story wasnt that great to begin with so its not that hard to improve on. All my opinion btw.