According to the codex Humanity has only had an embassy on the Citatel for ~20 years, yet on several occasions there have been references to long-standing relationships between alien species and humans. The one that stands out in my mind is the Asari who is having trouble with her Krogan boyfriend. She says that with humans, you just need to 'stick it out for a century' until they die. However, this has never happened in all of history. Humans simply haven't been in contact with other species for that long.
It's definately not a major issue but I hope Bioware takes note of these types of small errors so that ME3 can reach it's full potential.
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:03
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That asari was saying that with humans a relationship doesn't last long because of a short lifespan, makes perfect sense. She never said that she had some human boyfriends who died, she just said that being with a krogan for a while would be different than hooking up with a human.
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:04
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That line in itself isn't an error. She's well aware of how long a human lives. It may be a slightly awkward analogy (a quarian or turian may have been a better example, and something that would more readily come to mind) but then again, she was looking AT a human when she said that, so perhaps human came to mind first.
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:04
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Just because they haven't been in contact with one another for long does not mean the other races don't know how long the human lifespan is. Since all races have their lifespans on display at some point or another, I'd imagine the lifespan of a human is pretty common knowledge. In that sense the Asari wasn't speaking from experience or as if it had happened to someone else, but from cold hard facts. A relationship with a human really would only last a century before said human bit the bullet.
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:05
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I think you're misunderstanding some things. All because humanity has only had an embassy on the Citadel for 20 years, doesn't mean they haven't had contact with the other species for longer than that. To truly assess how much contact humanity has had, your starting point needs to be the first contact war, not Embassy status.
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:08
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First Contact War was in 2157, ME1 takes place in 2183, and if ME2 is 2 years later, it's 2185 or perhaps 86 depending on the month and such. 8 years isn't that big a difference.Oawa wrote...
I think you're misunderstanding some things. All because humanity has only had an embassy on the Citadel for 20 years, doesn't mean they haven't had contact with the other species for longer than that. To truly assess how much contact humanity has had, your starting point needs to be the first contact war, not Embassy status.
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:09
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Problem is, the First Contact war happened around thirty years prior to the game. Meaning that no matter how you look at it humanity really hasn't been around long enough for a lifetime relationship between an Asari and Human to happen. That said though it's pretty obvious that Asari was speaking from facts rather than experience.Oawa wrote...
I think you're misunderstanding some things. All because humanity has only had an embassy on the Citadel for 20 years, doesn't mean they haven't had contact with the other species for longer than that. To truly assess how much contact humanity has had, your starting point needs to be the first contact war, not Embassy status.
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:12
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Inferences: breaking RPG immersion since 2010.
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:12
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@Koyasha and Nyaore:
You're both correct, commented without being fully informed.
@OP:
I think a lot of people have already addressed it, the Asari was speaking based on Human lifespans being shorter than Krogan. Not from actual experience.
I think however, you do encounter an Asari grieving the death of her human partner on Illium.
You're both correct, commented without being fully informed.
@OP:
I think a lot of people have already addressed it, the Asari was speaking based on Human lifespans being shorter than Krogan. Not from actual experience.
I think however, you do encounter an Asari grieving the death of her human partner on Illium.
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:17
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And here I thought this thread would be about planet scanning on the 360. How wrong I was...
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:18
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Chamberboozer wrote...
According to the codex Humanity has only had an embassy on the Citatel for ~20 years, yet on several occasions there have been references to long-standing relationships between alien species and humans. The one that stands out in my mind is the Asari who is having trouble with her Krogan boyfriend. She says that with humans, you just need to 'stick it out for a century' until they die. However, this has never happened in all of history. Humans simply haven't been in contact with other species for that long.
It's definately not a major issue but I hope Bioware takes note of these types of small errors so that ME3 can reach it's full potential.
Stop complaining! We have fluent combat now and thermal clips!
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:49
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The only thing I have a hard time believing in relevance to this topic is the whole situation with Mouse. He was a kid on the Citadel, right? Has he had the time to outgrow the ducts in the time? Were there so many human kids on the Citadel that long ago that they had a name for them?
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 12:52
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It's been 28 years. Within 2-3 years of first contact there would start to be humans living on the Citadel. By the time the embassy comes around, there'd probably be a decent sized community there. If Mouse was born on the Citadel as little as 18 to 20 years ago, his life is entirely plausible - he could be even younger, we're not really told how old he is right now. And no one says all those kids were human, from what I recall. Other races DO have children, you know. It's likely that poor children have been doing this for millenia.wizardryforever wrote...
The only thing I have a hard time believing in relevance to this topic is the whole situation with Mouse. He was a kid on the Citadel, right? Has he had the time to outgrow the ducts in the time? Were there so many human kids on the Citadel that long ago that they had a name for them?
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Posté 28 février 2010 - 01:16
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It's true that this is all possible (the duct rats) but it does seem that humanity is a little excessively entrenched in the citadel and the galactic community as whole for how long it's been around. On the other hand, that's half the point of the game - humanity is taking over much faster than the aliens would like, and there's a lot of backlash to deal with, paragon or renegade. I do think the sheer volume of humans is a tiny bit silly, though. Especially when Shepard says "But human and quarian relationships can't be that uncommon" - there are 17 million quarians total in the galaxy, and something like 12 or 13 billion humans. And it's only been 28 years.
