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[Wraith_3]

I tried to start a renegade playthrough, but I like playing the hero too much. After the first renegade option has you tell Ashley that you will go "save the cripple" I felt more like an a**hole than a bad guy. I also dislike the fact that in the Bioware games I've played (ME & KOTOR) the "bad guy" is just a jerk, not really a bad guy. 

[Schneidend]

"Jerk" decisions are Renegade, but not all Renegade decisions are jerk decisions.



Similarly, all penguins are birds, but not all birds are penguins.

[Strafbomber]

you are also more an ass'hole than a bad guy dude? wtf do you think you're doing anyway

Modifié par Strafbomber, 28 février 2010 - 04:29 .

[Corvus754]

I have a really hard time playing renegade. Some of the conversation options are things I can Identify with, but other times, it's just...

You look back and you realize you made yourself look like a douche.

[Wraith_3]

What I mean is if they want to give you the option to be a bad guy, give us some options. How about letting a bunch of people get killed because you don't feel like doing anything. How about that mission where you stop the missiles the Batarians launched? Maybe I don't care and I will let both the city and spaceport get hit? Maybe the Salarians on the Thane recruitment mission ticked me off, and I can just shoot them all? They let you do all the jerky bully stuff except steal a little kid's candy.

[TheBlackBaron]

Nope. I much prefer to cold pragmatism (and admittedly occasional douchebaggery) of Renegade to what at times feels like the unbelievably naivety of Paragon.



That's not to say I don't take Paragon options when they feel like the best course of action or when dealing with my crew, but when saving the galaxy I could care less if a few people get their toes stepped on.

[TheBlackBaron]

Wraith_3 wrote...

What I mean is if they want to give you the option to be a bad guy, give us some options. How about letting a bunch of people get killed because you don't feel like doing anything. How about that mission where you stop the missiles the Batarians launched? Maybe I don't care and I will let both the city and spaceport get hit? Maybe the Salarians on the Thane recruitment mission ticked me off, and I can just shoot them all? They let you do all the jerky bully stuff except steal a little kid's candy.

You're missing the point. Renegade is not meant to be a mustache-twirling evil villain like Dark Side. Whether Renegade or Paragon, Shepard is still a hero.

[Computron2000]

Wraith_3 wrote...
What I mean is if they want to give you the option to be a bad guy, give us some options. How about letting a bunch of people get killed because you don't feel like doing anything. How about that mission where you stop the missiles the Batarians launched? Maybe I don't care and I will let both the city and spaceport get hit? Maybe the Salarians on the Thane recruitment mission ticked me off, and I can just shoot them all? They let you do all the jerky bully stuff except steal a little kid's candy.

Um don't do the quest?

You seem to misunderstand what renegade is all about. Renegade = mission only, **** the rest. Renegade != i am a sith lord.

Edit: Better definition. renegade=antihero, paragon=hero

Modifié par Computron2000, 28 février 2010 - 04:43 .

[cronshaw8]

Schneidend wrote...

"Jerk" decisions are Renegade, but not all Renegade decisions are jerk decisions.

Similarly, all penguins are birds, but not all birds are penguins.

yes
I agree with the gist of the op, that I generally tend towards paragon. I still make some renegade decisions. For the most part i'm renegade with the bad guys and paragon with my crew. An example. The tyrone rawlings side quest. Uploading his data to the Alliance was the paragon choice, but i thought that would be counter-productive since for the time being Cerberus was helping me. The neutral choice was give the data to Cerberus. I didn't want to do that either becuase i didn't trust them. The renegade choice was keep it for yourself. Which i did. I figure if Cerberus is straight up with me i get rid of it, if they try and screw me over i've got an ace up my sleeve.

Modifié par cronshaw8, 28 février 2010 - 04:43 .

[GuardianAngel470]

I agree that renegade was never supposed to be like dark side. TheBlackBaron is right in that it was supposed to be about cold pragmatism. I don't know if the change in lead writer resulted in the shift to dark side-esque dialog or what but it is certainly less pragmatism and more ****-ness.

[Skarwael]

If renegade isn't evil, why the red eyes? The next step from that would be fable horns.

[Computron2000]

Skarwael wrote...

If renegade isn't evil, why the red eyes? The next step from that would be fable horns.

Um, because your eyes are cybernetic? And you're not bothered enough to maintain your fake look?

[superimposed]

Because visual changes are immersive, apparently.

[aznsoisauce]

Computron2000 wrote...

Skarwael wrote...

If renegade isn't evil, why the red eyes? The next step from that would be fable horns.

Um, because your eyes are cybernetic? And you're not bothered enough to maintain your fake look?

LOL.
Paragons are vain.

[Skarwael]

Computron2000 wrote...

Skarwael wrote...

If renegade isn't evil, why the red eyes? The next step from that would be fable horns.

Um, because your eyes are cybernetic? And you're not bothered enough to maintain your fake look?

No, it's the evilness shining through.

[XxCITIZENxX]

The way I see it renegade Shepard is like Dirty Harry and paragon Shepard is like Captain Jean Luc Picard.

[ItsFreakinJesus]

No one is aggressive all of the time, and no one is passive all of the time. Therefore, playing strictly as a Paragon or Renegade when there's no Achievement involved is completely and utterly silly.

[Computron2000]

aznsoisauce wrote...
LOL.
Paragons are vain.

I wouldn't say vain. More like they don't want kids to start crying everytime they see him or her. Renegades just don't care.

[Skarwael]

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

No one is aggressive all of the time, and no one is passive all of the time. Therefore, playing strictly as a Paragon or Renegade when there's no Achievement involved is completely and utterly silly.

But you have to, if you want any chance of persuading anyone. <_<

[DaeJi]

Paragon is the more heroic path (BioWare even calls paragons the "Ultimate Hero") and the one I mostly go down. However, there are times when renegade is the way to go, like punching reporters and scaring guys off with bomb threads and making crime lords talk.

[NKKKK]

Paragade

[Computron2000]

Skarwael wrote...
But you have to, if you want any chance of persuading anyone. <_<

Not really true. Timing is important for the hard persuades. The rest aren't so important

[A Blind Bandit]

I am mostly Paragon but do some Renegade stuff when I need to. I just can't be a douche to my crew. I always shoot the Krogan who talks to much, stab the mechanic in the back, push the guy out the window etc.

[Never-Red]

I actually find it the other way around. I find it much harder to make the paragon choices most of the time. usualyl I always play renegade, but because I decided I wanted different choices leading all the way up to ME3 ive been playing paragon and I find I still want to make some renegade choices. Heck sometimes I still do by accident. Mainly its because I find some of the paragon choices are more blind foolish naivity than heroic do-goodery.