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[Skilled Seeker]

Wrong. All Collecter ships look the same regardless of species. The difference is on the inside.

[Chamberboozer]

The art book made it look like all reapers, even the human one, end up with that shellfish design. So i'd guess that it's how the reapers looked before they became machines.

[Geth Knight]

Chamberboozer wrote...

The art book made it look like all reapers, even the human one, end up with that shellfish design. So i'd guess that it's how the reapers looked before they became machines.

So all Reapers were Cthulhu? That rocks and makes so much sense.

[The Angry One]

I absolutely refuse to entertain the idiotic notion of giant terminator-reapers flying about like super robots from 1970's Japanese shows.

Nor the idea that cuttlefish could develop the technology to create or impress the Reapers.

[Wild Still]

Wasn't shellfish, t'was mollusks built the galaxy!



Million of years ago, prehistoric mollusks ruled the cosmos with an iron... tentacle...

[Devidose]

Additionally, the cuttlefish design might be based off an even earlier harvest event.



Given the theorised age of the universe, and if 50000 years are a rough approx on Reaper actions, then there are still something near 700 cycles. Not 100% on this atm, was based off a theoretical Reaper fleet size if 1 Reaper was made per cycle.

[The Angry One]

Every Reaper we see in the end sequence has the shellfish design.

If Reapers took their final shape from the species they reproduce from then there should be Reapers of many differing shapes, unless they're seriously saying that they haven't reproduced till now or that all intelligent life before the Protheans consisted of cuttlefish.

[sergio71785]

The "shellfish" design makes a lot of sense for a species who's built a career on waging war. A surface that curves will always be stronger than a flat surface. Not only that, but a rounded surface increases the chance solid projectiles will glance.

[SmokePants]

Chamberboozer wrote...

The art book made it look like all reapers, even the human one, end up with that shellfish design. So i'd guess that it's how the reapers looked before they became machines.

That was a scrapped design for the larva. It was not a representation of the adult human reaper.

This stuff will either sort itself out in ME3 or it will be a festering blemish on the trilogy. There's nothing we can determine for certain right now.

Modifié par SmokePants, 28 février 2010 - 07:23 .

[Llandaryn]

Captain Cornhole wrote...

This is just a theory, but it seems to me like the Reapers, create their Dreadnaught warships based of the design of the species they exterminated last. 

So this 50,000 years the Reapers are going after the Humens and useing their design because of Shepard's defiance of Sovereign and genetic compatibility.

Last 50,000 years ago the Protheans where not compatable enough to have Dreadnaughts made from them, so they where made slaves.

And finally last 100,000 years what ever form the Reapers where in defeated the Shellfish Empire that had rulled the Gallaxy and useing their genetic material created shellfish looking dreadnaughts. Eg: Soverein and ending ME2 clip.

Thoughts and comments? 

I took it to mean that each "cycle", an additional Reaper is made out of the most dominant race -- this is the Reaper's methods of propogation. The new "Reapers" don't replace the current Reapers, they simply add to their numbers. The Reapers that we see in the final cutscene, moving towards the Milky Way, are likely the originals. Given that the 'human Reaper' was muuuuuch smaller than Sovereign, I assume that the form of the human Reaper is its inner-most 'heart', and the protective shell goes around the outside.

[DeathByWoodchipper]

The Human-Reaper that is seen at the end is not complete. According to EDI, it would have taken tens of thousands of more humans in order to create the final product. Therefore, it would be logical to assume that the Human-Reaper would have been much larger had it not been destroyed.



Seeing as how the Derelict Reaper is 37 million years old and resembles every Reaper we have seen thus far, the "Cuttlefish Empire" would have ruled millions and millions of years ago.



Still, we have not witnessed the entirety of the Reaper fleet and it is likely that the composition of the fleet is more varied than we believe.

[dreman9999]

The Angry One wrote...

I absolutely refuse to entertain the idiotic notion of giant terminator-reapers flying about like super robots from 1970's Japanese shows.
Nor the idea that cuttlefish could develop the technology to create or impress the Reapers.

How about a giant terminator-reaper with a cutlefish body for legs.

[Skyblade012]

Of course it wasn't complete. Look at the thing. It's tiny. Go play ME1 again. Remember the part where Saren stops the elevator, and you have to run up the side of the Presidium tower? Look in the background and Sovereign in those shots. Sovereign was easily ten times the size of that larva, if not more so.

[The Angry One]

Okay look at it this way, why would the Collectors have the schematics of Harbinger if they weren't being given the ultimate plans of what the Reaper they're constructing should be like?

[dreman9999]

sergio71785 wrote...

The "shellfish" design makes a lot of sense for a species who's built a career on waging war. A surface that curves will always be stronger than a flat surface. Not only that, but a rounded surface increases the chance solid projectiles will glance.

A shellfish design makes sense for any creature that spends all its time in low gravity place in general and need to grip on things.

[AdamBoozer]

Dose no one pay attention to the game?



The reapers are not really machines in the way you think. They are organic and macines. they have both. The collector's used reaper tech completly. There ships were machines that had organic structures grown around them. This is like the reapers in that this is how they are made. But the reapers are made from space fairing species, it's the only diffrence in there ships. The reapers are not dreadnaughts. The reapers are not millions of years old they are literaly BILLIONS of years old. They do not take the mos dominat they take the ones who garner there attention the most. Shepard can be blamed for the events of mass effect 2.



It was not a "scrapped design" It was a finished human reaper. ( We will likely see it again in 3.)

The "shellfish" thing as you said is only a coicedence. Likely due more to the fact of the orginal reaper wanting them to be built like him but have the the traits of the cultures they absorb. So every new reaper has billions of years of civilzations and and there's that's why they only look slightly diffrent.



NEXT TIME READ THE TREAD http://social.biowar...5/index/1142168 BEFORE YOU POST IGNORANT THREADS. Good lord it dose get old correcting people.

[Llandaryn]

DeathByWoodchipper wrote...

Seeing as how the Derelict Reaper is 37 million years old and resembles every Reaper we have seen thus far, the "Cuttlefish Empire

Or the race that originally created the Reapers designed them that way.

[Dave the Seagull]

[The Angry One]

dreman9999 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The "shellfish" design makes a lot of sense for a species who's built a career on waging war. A surface that curves will always be stronger than a flat surface. Not only that, but a rounded surface increases the chance solid projectiles will glance.

A shellfish design makes sense for any creature that spends all its time in low gravity place in general and need to grip on things.

For a space ship it makes some degree of sense, despite looking ridiculous (one wonders if that's where the Reapers get their hate and bile from).
For a lifeform evolving to use technology that way? Bah! The Hanar are already pushing it, and even the game world admits they're useless outside the water.

[Llandaryn]

The Angry One wrote...

For a lifeform evolving to use technology that way? Bah!

Maybe the Reapers were simply part of the Cambrian Explosion... and they made it into space.

[Kurupt87]

reapers are at a technological pinnacle which hasn't been improved upon for possibly more than 37million years, so the design of their ship/body things would be the most efficient for whatever reason. the human reaper larvae thing, like others have said, could be the "heart" of a reaper ship.
conversely, the reaper fleet picture shows that there *are* differences between the reapers, but they generally aren't big ones. this screws up my first argument. the only explanation i can think of is that if different species are made into reapers then the differences make it psychologically easier to adapt to being a reaper ship, having some feature of their original form. if you suddenly go from being a human being to a fish, for example, it'd be hard to cope, or vice versa, fish to human. purely hypothetical from me, as it is sci fi we're dealing with so virtually anything can be written into script and explained by un-understandable(heh) tech, with a smattering of realistic (as we know it) science.
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Modifié par Kurupt87, 28 février 2010 - 08:03 .

[AdamBoozer]

Captain Cornhole wrote...

Calm, down there. No need to get your shorts in a knot, buddy.

I am calm . . . Just cause I typed in caps dosen't mean im mad. Just means im trying to draw attetntion to that area.

Another reason there designed that way. It could of been the only race to even come close to beating them when abosorbed they took on there best traits. As someone brought up it could also be the combat prospective rounded is better. BUT more likely this was the first reaper billions of years ago instiling there form in all because it is the most advanced and just a couple of cycles wouldn't be able to change because no race has developed on any other path but theres.

Kurupt87 wrote...

reapers are at a technological pinnacle which hasn't been improved upon for possibly more than 37million years, so the design of their ship/body things would be the most efficient for whatever reason. the human reaper larvae thing, like others have said, could be the "heart" of a reaper ship.
conversely, the reaper fleet picture shows that there *are* differences between the reapers, but they generally aren't big ones. this screws up my first argument. the only explanation i can think of is that if different species are made into reapers then the differences make it psychologically easier to adapt to being a reaper ship, having some feature of their original form. if you suddenly go from being a human being to a fish, for example, it'd be hard to cope, or vice versa, fish to human. purely hypothetical from me, as it is sci fi we're dealing with so virtually anything can be written into script and explained by un-understandable(heh) tech, with a smattering of realistic (as we know it) science.
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Modifié par AdamBoozer, 28 février 2010 - 08:07 .