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[TornadoADV]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...

LostHH wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...
You keep saying that like it's supposed to mean something or people are supposed to suddenly start caring. When nitwits complain about the Mako being a "timewaster" I will point out the most undeniable and worst thought of gameplay ever, the abortion they call Planet Scanning.

Actually, the biggest timewaster and the thing that people should RIGHTLY[/i] be comparing Planet Scanning to was the ME1's inventory system.

*shoot some enemies, spend 10mins converting everything to omnigel as there is no convert all button*

Yeah, right. I either A.) Convert Overflow or B.) Sell everything to Req. Officer after a mission. Time Spent : Less then 5 minutes. (Including loading times to board the Normandy and the Elevator Ride down.)

Stop lying about time spent in your feeble attempt to insult ME1 because it hurt your knuckles because you couldn't drag them.

Hurp derp, someone doesn't agree with me and has a very decent counter argument, better result to insults so I save face and look like and internet tough guy!

Do you have anything constructive to add? Thought not, be on your way troll.

I can not fathom it taking 10 minutes to omni-gel everything, I can void my entire 150 item limit in 2 minutes. Y,A,Y,A is not that hard, stop acting like it is.

Modifié par TornadoADV, 01 mars 2010 - 11:26 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Cool poll. Never expected that.

I voted for the Mako, BTW.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 01 mars 2010 - 11:50 .

[Gaddmeister]

What was mineral gathering used for in ME1 anyway? I only recently found out that you seem to get some bonus in ME2, but what use did it have in ME1 besides grinding for xp? After my first playthrough I never scanned another planet (even though I only had to press a single button) or collected anything with the Mako. I absolutely loathe these kind of things in games, but at least it seemed optional in ME1. Because I obviously want the upgrades in ME2 so I have to scan planets.

[LostHH]

TornadoADV wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...

LostHH wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...
You keep saying that like it's supposed to mean something or people are supposed to suddenly start caring. When nitwits complain about the Mako being a "timewaster" I will point out the most undeniable and worst thought of gameplay ever, the abortion they call Planet Scanning.

Actually, the biggest timewaster and the thing that people should RIGHTLY[/i] be comparing Planet Scanning to was the ME1's inventory system.

*shoot some enemies, spend 10mins converting everything to omnigel as there is no convert all button*

Yeah, right. I either A.) Convert Overflow or B.) Sell everything to Req. Officer after a mission. Time Spent : Less then 5 minutes. (Including loading times to board the Normandy and the Elevator Ride down.)

Stop lying about time spent in your feeble attempt to insult ME1 because it hurt your knuckles because you couldn't drag them.

Hurp derp, someone doesn't agree with me and has a very decent counter argument, better result to insults so I save face and look like and internet tough guy!

Do you have anything constructive to add? Thought not, be on your way troll.

I can not fathom it taking 10 minutes to omni-gel everything, I can void my entire 150 item limit in 2 minutes. Y,A,Y,A is not that hard, stop acting like it is.

Well actually I prefer ME1, I was just poking fun at the lack of a convert all option. 
You can untwist your knickers now.

[cos1ne]

People planet scanning is about as optional as the Mako missions.



Sure if you don't upgrade people will die, but guess what, everyone surviving is optional. In fact one of the major points of the game are squad members die.



So those people that are obsessive about having a 100% survival rate shouldn't tell people to shut up when they say they need to get a 100% mission complete rate in ME1, of which the Mako was a necessity to do.



I mean really you can beat the game without planet scanning once. Oh! and to top it all off you can actual upgrade your weapons/ship without scanning because we find minerals during our missions.

[ufoflieger]

Yes you can complete the game without scanning. But you'll have a huge handicap when doing so. That's what I said. And that's what I mean when I'm saying "The game forces you to do the scanning."

There wasn't a handicap in ME1 for not doing any exploring -> it was completely optional.

The planet scanning isn't. Not only that you can't do the ship upgrades, but the game will also be a lot harder if you can't research the weapen/biotic/tech upgrades for your squad.

[Srau]

They are both bad but ultimatly the Mako exploration gave depth to the ME1 with side stories (Actualy, outside of the Kahoku side quest most of those Cerberus encounters/experiments came from there).
I think the best things to do would have been to lower the "bumpy" behavior of the Mako, make maps much less mountainous and maybe add more, tough, tank like enemies.

EDIT : I scanned planets on my first 3 playthroughs (only enough for research, couldn't be arsed to do more), after that i just edited my savegames ... timesink and boredom usualy don't go well together.

Modifié par Srau, 01 mars 2010 - 12:32 .

[The Capital Gaultier]

TornadoADV wrote...

The Capital Gaultier wrote...

 Planet scanning did not replace the Mako.

You keep saying that like it's supposed to mean something or people are supposed to suddenly start caring. When nitwits complain about the Mako being a "timewaster" I will point out the most undeniable and worst thought of gameplay ever, the abortion they call Planet Scanning.

If the worst comeback people have is a Armored vehicle they don't have the hand-eye ability to control then I'm pretty secure in my position.

Yes, it means that they haven't replaced the Mako yet because of how bad they realized it was.  Planet scanning isn't an amazing mini-game, but it sure as hell doesn't suck as much development time as the Mako did.

[Kangasniemi]

Let's see... My ME1 playthrough was about 40 hours. About half of that time was wasted trying to manhandle the Mako to do what i wanted. Was it fun? No. Was it enjoyable? Hell no! Did it make me want to go out and kill some on... err... some thing? Oh yes, constantly. I was hating it the whole ****ing time.

My ME2 playthrough was about 30 hours. Of those 30 hours I spent 2-3 hours scanning the planets and got more than enough minerals to upgrade everything. Was it fun? Well it wasn't that bad, but it's not the best thing in the world. Was it enjoyable? Yes, it's a nice change of pace. Did it make (same question as with Mako) some thing? Not once did that thought cross my mind. So i was having a good time.

So lets summ it all up:

Mako: huge waste of time, agony and murderous rage.
Scanning: having nice time playing the game I love.

So the winner is, hands down, planet scanning.

Modifié par Kangasniemi, 01 mars 2010 - 12:34 .

[The Capital Gaultier]

TornadoADV wrote...

LostHH wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...
You keep saying that like it's supposed to mean something or people are supposed to suddenly start caring. When nitwits complain about the Mako being a "timewaster" I will point out the most undeniable and worst thought of gameplay ever, the abortion they call Planet Scanning.

Actually, the biggest timewaster and the thing that people should RIGHTLY be comparing Planet Scanning to was the ME1's inventory system.

*shoot some enemies, spend 10mins converting everything to omnigel as there is no convert all button*

Yeah, right. I either A.) Convert Overflow or B.) Sell everything to Req. Officer after a mission. Time Spent : Less then 5 minutes. (Including loading times to board the Normandy and the Elevator Ride down.)

Stop lying about time spent in your feeble attempt to insult ME1 because it hurt your knuckles because you couldn't drag them.

That's just a stupid argument.  Inventory management was a complete waste of time and everybody knows it.

[TornadoADV]

Then don't play my RPG and demand it become a TPS GoW rip-off. KTHXBAI.

[Knightfly]

Mako!!! what's more fun than trying to climb a hill you know full well the Mako can't but going at it for 5min before giving up and admitting defeat

Modifié par Knightfly, 01 mars 2010 - 12:43 .

[Kangasniemi]

TornadoADV wrote...

Then don't play my RPG and demand it become a TPS GoW rip-off. KTHXBAI.

You do know that because ME doesn't have a vehicle part, it is actually less like GoW, which has some crappy vehicle sections.


(Edit. typo)

Modifié par Kangasniemi, 01 mars 2010 - 12:50 .

[Louis deGuerre]

Planet scanning is the most stupid minigame I ever encountered in any game ever.

It's also murder on my mouse hand as you have to keep the damn mouse button pressed (WTF QA ? Bioware FFS).

I suspect a lot of the Mako haters played 360 or something as on the PC the Mako was dead easy to control and anyone with 2 brain cells had no problem navigating the map (hint : a straight line to the next objective up a 90 degree slope is not the way to go).

Finally, the planet maps, weather and starscapes were very varied and quite beautiful.

I'll grant you that the missions themselves had only two varieties (mine or bunker), but there were some gems in there like helping the alliance soldiers defend against a Rachni attack, and the Geth-base series.

[SurfaceBeneath]

TornadoADV wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...

LostHH wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...
You keep saying that like it's supposed to mean something or people are supposed to suddenly start caring. When nitwits complain about the Mako being a "timewaster" I will point out the most undeniable and worst thought of gameplay ever, the abortion they call Planet Scanning.

Actually, the biggest timewaster and the thing that people should RIGHTLY[/i] be comparing Planet Scanning to was the ME1's inventory system.

*shoot some enemies, spend 10mins converting everything to omnigel as there is no convert all button*

Yeah, right. I either A.) Convert Overflow or B.) Sell everything to Req. Officer after a mission. Time Spent : Less then 5 minutes. (Including loading times to board the Normandy and the Elevator Ride down.)

Stop lying about time spent in your feeble attempt to insult ME1 because it hurt your knuckles because you couldn't drag them.

Hurp derp, someone doesn't agree with me and has a very decent counter argument, better result to insults so I save face and look like and internet tough guy!

Do you have anything constructive to add? Thought not, be on your way troll.

I can not fathom it taking 10 minutes to omni-gel everything, I can void my entire 150 item limit in 2 minutes. Y,A,Y,A is not that hard, stop acting like it is.

Did you just support ME1's inventory in the same breath as you said that it was extremely easy to spam delete items without even considerning what they do in order to try and hurry along the inventory deletion process as quickly as you could?

Feels like I'm arguing against nothing at all.... nothing at all.... nothing at all...

Modifié par SurfaceBeneath, 01 mars 2010 - 01:53 .

[lukandroll]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...

LostHH wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...
You keep saying that like it's supposed to mean something or people are supposed to suddenly start caring. When nitwits complain about the Mako being a "timewaster" I will point out the most undeniable and worst thought of gameplay ever, the abortion they call Planet Scanning.

Actually, the biggest timewaster and the thing that people should RIGHTLY be comparing Planet Scanning to was the ME1's inventory system.

*shoot some enemies, spend 10mins converting everything to omnigel as there is no convert all button*

Yeah, right. I either A.) Convert Overflow or B.) Sell everything to Req. Officer after a mission. Time Spent : Less then 5 minutes. (Including loading times to board the Normandy and the Elevator Ride down.)

Stop lying about time spent in your feeble attempt to insult ME1 because it hurt your knuckles because you couldn't drag them.

Hurp derp, someone doesn't agree with me and has a very decent counter argument, better result to insults so I save face and look like and internet tough guy!

While I agree that the amount of upgrades and mods enemies droped was pretty ridiculous, I've never spend more than 5 minutes sell in it or medigelling it
Still it was pretty pointless once you were on your second play

Modifié par lukandroll, 01 mars 2010 - 07:32 .