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[Markinator_123]

Thane > Zevran

I enjoyed killing Zevran. That backstabbing S.O.B.

[kraidy1117]

Gabey5 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

NYG1991 wrote...

Thane definitely. He doesn't turn on you. Ever since zev tried that I actually take a bit of pleasure in cutting his throat while he's knocked out.

do people here not know you need to build loyalty to avoid betrayl?

Not the point, he still betrays you, which Thane does not since thane resepcts Shepard.

to be fair thane has nothing to live for and he has accepted death in the suiciide mission and zevran still has a  long life ahead of him.

Thats not an excuse.

[Sialater]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

NYG1991 wrote...

Thane definitely. He doesn't turn on you. Ever since zev tried that I actually take a bit of pleasure in cutting his throat while he's knocked out.

do people here not know you need to build loyalty to avoid betrayl?

Not the point, he still betrays you, which Thane does not since thane resepcts Shepard.

to be fair thane has nothing to live for and he has accepted death in the suiciide mission and zevran still has a  long life ahead of him.

Thats not an excuse.

Zevran doesn't betray you if you talk to the guy and gain his loyalty.  Which is *gasp* what you have to do with Thane, too! 

Right now, I prefer Zevran. 

[WilliamShatner]

Can't both be equally rubbish?



Zevran backstabs you if you don't give him enough presents and BioWare pour the sympathetic hitman cliche syrup on Thane so heavily it's insulting.

[Vamp44]

Thane.

[NYG1991]

I figured not killing Zev when he ambushed me the first time was enough to gain his loyalty.

[JamesT91]

i have to say zevran- i dont like his personality but he is soo much more develpoed than thane

thane- u have to recuit him like it or not,get a few short discussions with him. then u can choose to help him with his son or ignore him. and thats all u get
zevran- u choose to recruit, leave, or kill him. u can have loads of different conversations. even romance him if you wish. depending on how much he likes u he will either betray u and force u to kill him. or he will help u kill the assassins.

thane has the better personiality
but zevran is more developer therefore more interesting as a character

Modifié par JamesT91, 28 février 2010 - 09:29 .

[Skilled Seeker]

JamesT91 wrote...

i have to say zevran- i dont like his personality but he is soo much more develpoed than thane

thane- u have to recuit him like it or not,get a few short discussions with him. then u can choose to help him with his son or ignore him. and thats all u get
zevran- u choose to recruit, leave, or kill him. u can have loads of different conversations. even romance him if you wish. depending on how much he likes u he will either betray u and force u to kill him. or he will help u kill the assassins.

thane has the better personiality
but zevran is more developer therefore more interesting as a character

You can romance Thane too. And I found Thane's background to be a lot deeper than Zevran's though I disagree with his BS philosophy as Shepard puts it.

[Llandaryn]

which assasin did you prefer?

Altaïr.

[JamesT91]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

JamesT91 wrote...

i have to say zevran- i dont like his personality but he is soo much more develpoed than thane

thane- u have to recuit him like it or not,get a few short discussions with him. then u can choose to help him with his son or ignore him. and thats all u get
zevran- u choose to recruit, leave, or kill him. u can have loads of different conversations. even romance him if you wish. depending on how much he likes u he will either betray u and force u to kill him. or he will help u kill the assassins.

thane has the better personiality
but zevran is more developer therefore more interesting as a character

You can romance Thane too. And I found Thane's background to be a lot deeper than Zevran's though I disagree with his BS philosophy as Shepard puts it.

yes but i mean u can romance him even as a male if u so wish, u dont have to start all over again as a female character. il agree thanes background is deeper but i like all the talking and intereacting and learning you do with the characters and how your relationships can change things which is much more developed in general in DA- thats just my opinion though

[Pannamaslo]

Thane. I say "no" to lecherous and pervy elves.

[masterjedirobyn]

Thane, b/c

A. More useful abilities in combat (zevran was built wrong, could never be as strong a rogue as leliana)

B. Zevran was sort of a shallow character, and his background didn't draw the main PC to him

C. Thane = actually sexy



Oh, and wth with people saying either Altair or Ezio? I actually found those less interesting than almost any bioware character. But wrong game anyways.

[Chaos-fusion]

Zevran for me. Thane felt too much like he was created to make me swoon. and I do not swoon.

[Chaos-fusion]

Hey, if Thane had bothered to ever recite bad sex poetry at me, he'd have more of a chance.

But for me, Zevran has always been more useful in combat, he's not as "I'm dark and broody.. Grr" as Thane, and Zev has a tattoo and a great accent. So he's better.

But hell, that's the beauty of opinions, no?

Modifié par Chaos-fusion, 28 février 2010 - 10:59 .

[Frotality]

sergio71785 wrote...

Thane is exactly 7845% more awesome.

impressive mathematical presicion....maybe you forgot or didnt care, but its actually 7845.38%. but i digress...

not only did i find his homoerotic flirting and party boy attitude annoying, but then the devs went and made him do that spoilerific thing he does near the end in denerim....i kill him every time at the crossroads now.

thane, while he has that crazy eye-ball freakout thing going on...doesnt do any of the above ^^^^

[MarginalBeast]

Zevran. I enjoyed talking to him more than Thane.

[marshalleck]

MarginalBeast wrote...

Zevran. I enjoyed talking to him more than Thane.

And he's not a 40 year old emo.

[Skilled Seeker]

JamesT91 wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

JamesT91 wrote...

i have to say zevran- i dont like his personality but he is soo much more develpoed than thane

thane- u have to recuit him like it or not,get a few short discussions with him. then u can choose to help him with his son or ignore him. and thats all u get
zevran- u choose to recruit, leave, or kill him. u can have loads of different conversations. even romance him if you wish. depending on how much he likes u he will either betray u and force u to kill him. or he will help u kill the assassins.

thane has the better personiality
but zevran is more developer therefore more interesting as a character

You can romance Thane too. And I found Thane's background to be a lot deeper than Zevran's though I disagree with his BS philosophy as Shepard puts it.

yes but i mean u can romance him even as a male if u so wish, u dont have to start all over again as a female character. il agree thanes background is deeper but i like all the talking and intereacting and learning you do with the characters and how your relationships can change things which is much more developed in general in DA- thats just my opinion though

Wait so you're saying if a character isn't bisexual then they're not developed well? Way to strengthen your argument bro.

[Nyx]

Mmmmm, it's hard to choose.

For sophistication [intelligence, philosophy, forethought] and style [attitude, voice, movement, clothing, etc.], Thane wins hands down. I even wonder if the devs spent some time molding him after male runway models.

For a comrade-in-arms, I will always choose Zevran. Once you earn his loyalty, he's with you and will fight on your side 'till the end. It was cool to have the choice of continuing to adventure with him in the epilogue. This may simply be a matter of development as JamesT91 had stated earlier, but I, unfortunately, didn't feel that strong "bromance" with Thane as I did with Zevran. This and his humor/banter is just to die for! God, he and Morrigan are basically my permanent squad-members because of it. I also like how it takes a darn tremendous amount of effort to disturb his complacent mindset. He's seen the worst of life (according to DA:O standards), but he doesn't let that prevent him from enjoying everyday pleasantries.

Modifié par Nyx.Aeterna, 28 février 2010 - 11:44 .

[thegoldfinch]

Skilled Seeker wrote...
Wait so you're saying if acharacter isn't bisexual then they're not developed well? Way to strengthen your argument bro.

Lmao, I love you.

I think if the writers behind Mass Effect put as much time and effort into character development as the Dragon Age team did, ME would be pretty much the pinacle of games. The characters they have are already incredibly fascinating but we never get to bromance the guys or be soul sistas with the wimmins. Everyone say a few scraps of dialogue and, welp, that's it, the end. No party banter, no silly conversations about licking lamposts in winter, no gossiping about other squadmates. Meeeeeeh. A bit of a let down, really.

Modifié par pixieface, 28 février 2010 - 11:53 .

[Maera Imrov]

marshalleck wrote...

Zevran, because he doesn't make pathetic excuses about what he is.

I don't really recall Thane making any excuse for what he is. He seems to have no qualms with it. He was given to the Hanar to train at 6, made his first kill at 12, and feels no guilt for it at all, because his body is merely the weapon by which it is done. He tells you this rather plainly. Most any assassin takes this mindset, from what media pertaining to them that I've perused.

The only kills he seems guilty over were the men who killed his wife, and that was because he apparently tortured them and killed them slowly, and he prefers to kill quickly and cleanly for his assassinations. The fact that he doesn't want his son to become an assassin because it's a 'path of sin', I think pertains more to Thane not wanting Kolyat to ignore his potential family in the future as Thane did, and not so much because of killing people. Or maybe he just wants his kid to be normal. That's a perfectly reasonable parental concern.

Zevran was annoying, period. An overly sexed bisexual that got on my nerves. But so far as their 'take' on their profession, they weren't that vastly different.

[marshalleck]

Maera Imrov wrote...

I don't really recall Thane making any excuse for what he is. He seems to have no qualms with it. He was given to the Hanar to train at 6, made his first kill at 12, and feels no guilt for it at all, because his body is merely the weapon by which it is done. He tells you this rather plainly.

It's an excuse that he has built up around himself to deny any agency in the murders he commits. He kills people. Maybe they deserve it, maybe they don't. But he can't even face what he is. I'm not really fooled by his sophistry. He was brainwashed with a dualist philosophy which is the sole justification he offers for killing. It doesn't make him intelligent, deep, or sophisticated. It makes him deluded and incapable of accepting responsibility for his actions. Zevran, while his personality sometimes grates on me as well, at least is capable of understanding who and what he is.

Modifié par marshalleck, 01 mars 2010 - 07:13 .

[Mox Ruuga]

Zevran, by far.

Much cooler character, no emo, better written. And no faux art movie flashbacks.

Both are cliched archetypes, but I can tolerate Zevran's cliches better. I've always hated angsty emo assassins. The"woe is me I must atone" Crying Freeman types. Thane even has the "orphan kid sidekick" shtick going with Mouse.