107 réponses à ce sujet

[Guanxii]

My hope is that by the end of the trilogy each of the citadel races will have each realised that all their technology has essentially developed along a predefined path - established by the reapers knowing that future civs would backward engineer everything from the citadel and mass relays,etc. - all element-zero-based-(mass effect) travel is inherently flawed by design in order to keep them isolated even within the confines of the galaxy - for the purpose of reaping- let alone discover other galaxies, such as Andromeda.

So each species must be free to pursue their own independent course of development as prescribed by the Geth.

An analogy would be akin to Krogans who's societal evolution was interrupted by the the introduction of advanced tech by the Salarians while they were still waring clan-fractions. Had they done the same to us as cavemen we would be the same and our society/tech would never have developed in the way/to the extent it has.

Finding the citadel before we had naturally developed our own space-faring technology capable of reaching it unaided has has crippled our own technological advancement as species.

It would be like introducing a mythical free-market system under conditions of perfect liberty - it will bring about much greater technological advances within just generations. The series however would no longer called Mass Effect at this point because Mass Effect technology would be considered dated reaper-death-traps.

As the universe becomes our oyster naturally moving beyond our galaxy is the natural step and clearly their are greater threats out there than the Reapers. The Reapers might be harvesting us to prepare themselves against their own demons - which we might end up taking on ourselves.

[glacier1701]

 While ME3 should end Shepards story there are still a number of 'threats' that will need to be taken care before any golden age is entered into.


(1) The Batarian threat needs to be dealt with especially if the Alliance/Council lose a lot of ships and the Batarians lose nothing.
(2) Pirates of all stripes need to be taken care of. Too many of these within Council space so they need to be cleaned up.
(3) Civil war threat within Council space and/or Alliance space particularly if people feel that the losses that happened were due entirely to the Council and/or Alliance not doing anything and the people in power are unwilling to go peacefully.
(4) Cerberus needs to be dealt with.
(5) Reestablishment of authority especially if large numbers of Mass Relays get destroyed cutting off huge areas of space from contact. 
(6) The Terminus systems. In essence these are 'rogue' states or piratical states and are causing so much trouble that they need to be dealt with - diplomatically or otherwise.

 Those are just off the top of my head. Nothing on par in terms of total annihilation but some could be pretty nasty in terms of devastion caused on a more local basis to smaller groups.

Modifié par glacier1701, 02 mars 2010 - 02:35 .

[Guanxii]

glacier1701 wrote...


 While ME3 should end Shepards story there are still a number of 'threats' that will need to be taken care before any golden age is entered into.


(1) The Batarian threat needs to be dealt with especially if the Alliance/Council lose a lot of ships and the Batarians lose nothing.
(2) Pirates of all stripes need to be taken care of. Too many of these within Council space so they need to be cleaned up.
(3) Civil war threat within Council space and/or Alliance space particularly if people feel that the losses that happened were due entirely to the Council and/or Alliance not doing anything and the people in power are unwilling to go peacefully.
(4) Cerberus needs to be dealt with.
(5) Reestablishment of authority especially if large numbers of Mass Relays get destroyed cutting off huge areas of space from contact. 
(6) The Terminus systems. In essence these are 'rogue' states or piratical states and are causing so much trouble that they need to be dealt with - diplomatically or otherwise.

 Those are just off the top of my head. Nothing on par in terms of total annihilation but some could be pretty nasty in terms of devastion caused on a more local basis to smaller groups.

Some good suggestions there, but it would likely be very problematic to add more cannon to the milky-way galaxy after the trilogy is over because in effect the stem has branched out to become a tree in ME3:

My universe might be 1 gigantic lawless terminus system but yours might be on the verge of becoming a bastion of unified citadel-space. Some other guy might have cured the genophage and now were all unified in enslavement to the Krogan!

[SimonTheFrog]

Well, if you think about it then the Reapers are coming back and each one of them eats a fleet for breakfast. It will be a bloody war and Shepard and his crew will not be able to do much, sitting on one of the ships. Like Ash said, you can't throw infantry against the reapers.

It will be a very boring and frustrating game where you basically watch the galaxy die for 20 hours. Shep dying in the arms of his/her LI in the final assault...



So, you can't have a ME4 unless you create it from the Reapers perspective. Like a very heroic reaper who kills many many alliance cruisers against all odds.



You will get some cool powers like mind control, red laser, poking with gigantic fingers... interesting stuff.

[addiction21]

Your all wrong. THe evil waffle theives of Beta Sigma Centa are coming... and they will be angry because there are no waffles in Mass Effect.

[Guanxii]

SimonTheFrog wrote...

Well, if you think about it then the Reapers are coming back and each one of them eats a fleet for breakfast. It will be a bloody war and Shepard and his crew will not be able to do much, sitting on one of the ships. Like Ash said, you can't throw infantry against the reapers.
It will be a very boring and frustrating game where you basically watch the galaxy die for 20 hours. Shep dying in the arms of his/her LI in the final assault...

So, you can't have a ME4 unless you create it from the Reapers perspective. Like a very heroic reaper who kills many many alliance cruisers against all odds.

You will get some cool powers like mind control, red laser, poking with gigantic fingers... interesting stuff.

D'know I'd never considered for one moment that the reapers could actually win no matter what choices you make  and that Saren was right from the outset: ultimately, resistance = Fail. All your choices are as meaningless as they are futile. It was all just a complete waste of time. Art parodying Life. A Masterpiece of pure unadulterated misery - the ANTI-HALO.

Can you image the HATE they would get if they pulled this one off? You'd need witness-relocation from all the irate fanboy armies.

Modifié par Guanxii, 02 mars 2010 - 04:01 .

[dgrrahi]

What's with people thinking there will be a ME4? They haven't even released ME3 yet.

[Tazzmission]

dgrrahi wrote...

What's with people thinking there will be a ME4? They haven't even released ME3 yet.

i think all the me4 threads stem from new me plarers.... bioware said in 2007 and 2010 that me is a trilogy meaning 3

[thedoncarnage]

I have a feeling another ME game would play out around a threat from another galaxy. After all, despite the Milky Way's enormity it's still extraordinarily small next to the countless other galaxies in the universe.



Given that, we now have two scenarios for ME4:



1) The Reapers in Dark Space are only a fraction of the actual Reaper civilization. Other Reapers have been busy harvesting other galaxies during the intermittent 50,000 year cycle and now they turn their attention to the Milky Way...



2) A completely new alien threat will emerge from another galaxy. I just hope it's not the Flood from Halo .

[Doctor Deepthroat]

No idea.



I kind of assumed the series would end after the Reapers were killed, and just survive in the expanded universe, ala Star Wars. I do hope I'm wrong, however.

[Grizzly46]

thedoncarnage wrote...

I have a feeling another ME game would play out around a threat from another galaxy. After all, despite the Milky Way's enormity it's still extraordinarily small next to the countless other galaxies in the universe.

Given that, we now have two scenarios for ME4:

1) The Reapers in Dark Space are only a fraction of the actual Reaper civilization. Other Reapers have been busy harvesting other galaxies during the intermittent 50,000 year cycle and now they turn their attention to the Milky Way...

2) A completely new alien threat will emerge from another galaxy. I just hope it's not the Flood from Halo .

No, absolutely no, for several reasons. First of all, Reapers should be exclusive to The Milky Way. Secondly, the Milky Way might seem small, but that's jsut because its so ridicously easy to travel around in, but in reality, its FRICKKIN' GIGANTIC. It takes light about four years to travel from our nearest neighbour (Alpha Centauri), so if you are going that way, bring a sandwich... And the distances between our galaxy and others can't really be mentioned - its even worse. So no travelling between galaxies please.

Is there something wrong by the way of leaving Mass Effect as it is after ME3? Just asking, because I do not want this fantastic piece of work to be sullied by additional games, spin-ffs, franchises and whatnots. To use Legion's phrasing, it would be blasphemy...

[Tazzmission]

Grizzly46 wrote...

thedoncarnage wrote...

I have a feeling another ME game would play out around a threat from another galaxy. After all, despite the Milky Way's enormity it's still extraordinarily small next to the countless other galaxies in the universe.

Given that, we now have two scenarios for ME4:

1) The Reapers in Dark Space are only a fraction of the actual Reaper civilization. Other Reapers have been busy harvesting other galaxies during the intermittent 50,000 year cycle and now they turn their attention to the Milky Way...

2) A completely new alien threat will emerge from another galaxy. I just hope it's not the Flood from Halo .

No, absolutely no, for several reasons. First of all, Reapers should be exclusive to The Milky Way. Secondly, the Milky Way might seem small, but that's jsut because its so ridicously easy to travel around in, but in reality, its FRICKKIN' GIGANTIC. It takes light about four years to travel from our nearest neighbour (Alpha Centauri), so if you are going that way, bring a sandwich... And the distances between our galaxy and others can't really be mentioned - its even worse. So no travelling between galaxies please.

Is there something wrong by the way of leaving Mass Effect as it is after ME3? Just asking, because I do not want this fantastic piece of work to be sullied by additional games, spin-ffs, franchises and whatnots. To use Legion's phrasing, it would be blasphemy...

its already been said in me1 that reapers repeat a cycle so i really dont think anything else villain or evil wise can top that. leave it a trilogy and keep it to where the story is leading

[TornadoADV]

Simple, the series ends at 3, like it's supposed to. Problem solved.

[AsheraII]

Tazzmission wrote...

Grizzly46 wrote...

thedoncarnage wrote...

I have a feeling another ME game would play out around a threat from another galaxy. After all, despite the Milky Way's enormity it's still extraordinarily small next to the countless other galaxies in the universe.

Given that, we now have two scenarios for ME4:

1) The Reapers in Dark Space are only a fraction of the actual Reaper civilization. Other Reapers have been busy harvesting other galaxies during the intermittent 50,000 year cycle and now they turn their attention to the Milky Way...

2) A completely new alien threat will emerge from another galaxy. I just hope it's not the Flood from Halo .

No, absolutely no, for several reasons. First of all, Reapers should be exclusive to The Milky Way. Secondly, the Milky Way might seem small, but that's jsut because its so ridicously easy to travel around in, but in reality, its FRICKKIN' GIGANTIC. It takes light about four years to travel from our nearest neighbour (Alpha Centauri), so if you are going that way, bring a sandwich... And the distances between our galaxy and others can't really be mentioned - its even worse. So no travelling between galaxies please.

Is there something wrong by the way of leaving Mass Effect as it is after ME3? Just asking, because I do not want this fantastic piece of work to be sullied by additional games, spin-ffs, franchises and whatnots. To use Legion's phrasing, it would be blasphemy...

its already been said in me1 that reapers repeat a cycle so i really dont think anything else villain or evil wise can top that. leave it a trilogy and keep it to where the story is leading

On top of that, there HAS been mention of other galaxies, though non has been specifically named or anything, and it HAS been concluded that Sovereign had a certain role inside our galaxy. It has also been concluded that the reapers hide outside the galaxy. So it's just a matter of simple extrapolation. If BW wishes to continue the ME universe, including reapers, then they have every ability . Yet if they're tired of spaceships and are thinking of adding NIKE AIR shoes to the fleets of aliens, then they haven't left any loose ends, nor made any promises. It's an opening they leave for themselves, but not an open end.

[Andaius20]

the power crazed Commander Shepard?

[Grizzly46]

AsheraII wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Grizzly46 wrote...

thedoncarnage wrote...

I have a feeling another ME game would play out around a threat from another galaxy. After all, despite the Milky Way's enormity it's still extraordinarily small next to the countless other galaxies in the universe.

Given that, we now have two scenarios for ME4:

1) The Reapers in Dark Space are only a fraction of the actual Reaper civilization. Other Reapers have been busy harvesting other galaxies during the intermittent 50,000 year cycle and now they turn their attention to the Milky Way...

2) A completely new alien threat will emerge from another galaxy. I just hope it's not the Flood from Halo .

No, absolutely no, for several reasons. First of all, Reapers should be exclusive to The Milky Way. Secondly, the Milky Way might seem small, but that's jsut because its so ridicously easy to travel around in, but in reality, its FRICKKIN' GIGANTIC. It takes light about four years to travel from our nearest neighbour (Alpha Centauri), so if you are going that way, bring a sandwich... And the distances between our galaxy and others can't really be mentioned - its even worse. So no travelling between galaxies please.

Is there something wrong by the way of leaving Mass Effect as it is after ME3? Just asking, because I do not want this fantastic piece of work to be sullied by additional games, spin-ffs, franchises and whatnots. To use Legion's phrasing, it would be blasphemy...

its already been said in me1 that reapers repeat a cycle so i really dont think anything else villain or evil wise can top that. leave it a trilogy and keep it to where the story is leading

On top of that, there HAS been mention of other galaxies, though non has been specifically named or anything, and it HAS been concluded that Sovereign had a certain role inside our galaxy. It has also been concluded that the reapers hide outside the galaxy. So it's just a matter of simple extrapolation. If BW wishes to continue the ME universe, including reapers, then they have every ability . Yet if they're tired of spaceships and are thinking of adding NIKE AIR shoes to the fleets of aliens, then they haven't left any loose ends, nor made any promises. It's an opening they leave for themselves, but not an open end.

Sounds like 'a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...'

Yes, I know the SHepard sage is supposed to end with ME3, one way or another, but to try to top it off with another threat against the galaxy would just be a sell-out. I would loose a lot of respect for Bioware if they do a Halo instead of doing something new. And it can be done - there are a lot of fields not covered properly yet if you want to make an RPG - Rome, western, real world medieval, time-travelling, you name it. There are examples of about everything of course, but not everything has been covered as CRPGs.

[Dethateer]

Once the Reapers are dealt with, someone will have to deal with Cthulhu.

Modifié par Dethateer, 03 mars 2010 - 08:54 .

[dgrrahi]

I'll be the new threat in the galaxy.

[Tazzmission]

Grizzly46 wrote...

AsheraII wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Grizzly46 wrote...

thedoncarnage wrote...

I have a feeling another ME game would play out around a threat from another galaxy. After all, despite the Milky Way's enormity it's still extraordinarily small next to the countless other galaxies in the universe.

Given that, we now have two scenarios for ME4:

1) The Reapers in Dark Space are only a fraction of the actual Reaper civilization. Other Reapers have been busy harvesting other galaxies during the intermittent 50,000 year cycle and now they turn their attention to the Milky Way...

2) A completely new alien threat will emerge from another galaxy. I just hope it's not the Flood from Halo .

No, absolutely no, for several reasons. First of all, Reapers should be exclusive to The Milky Way. Secondly, the Milky Way might seem small, but that's jsut because its so ridicously easy to travel around in, but in reality, its FRICKKIN' GIGANTIC. It takes light about four years to travel from our nearest neighbour (Alpha Centauri), so if you are going that way, bring a sandwich... And the distances between our galaxy and others can't really be mentioned - its even worse. So no travelling between galaxies please.

Is there something wrong by the way of leaving Mass Effect as it is after ME3? Just asking, because I do not want this fantastic piece of work to be sullied by additional games, spin-ffs, franchises and whatnots. To use Legion's phrasing, it would be blasphemy...

its already been said in me1 that reapers repeat a cycle so i really dont think anything else villain or evil wise can top that. leave it a trilogy and keep it to where the story is leading

On top of that, there HAS been mention of other galaxies, though non has been specifically named or anything, and it HAS been concluded that Sovereign had a certain role inside our galaxy. It has also been concluded that the reapers hide outside the galaxy. So it's just a matter of simple extrapolation. If BW wishes to continue the ME universe, including reapers, then they have every ability . Yet if they're tired of spaceships and are thinking of adding NIKE AIR shoes to the fleets of aliens, then they haven't left any loose ends, nor made any promises. It's an opening they leave for themselves, but not an open end.

Sounds like 'a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...'

Yes, I know the SHepard sage is supposed to end with ME3, one way or another, but to try to top it off with another threat against the galaxy would just be a sell-out. I would loose a lot of respect for Bioware if they do a Halo instead of doing something new. And it can be done - there are a lot of fields not covered properly yet if you want to make an RPG - Rome, western, real world medieval, time-travelling, you name it. There are examples of about everything of course, but not everything has been covered as CRPGs.

when you go to recruit thane on illium theres a asari who sells 4 to 5 star maps. also on the colector ship before the suicide mission you can salvage collector technolgy so im curious to see how thatll play into the citadels weapon advancments

[EmperorSahlertz]

I remember mentioned in the codex that only around 1.4% (or a similar small figure) of the galaxy was explored by the Citadel races. That leaves us with 98.6% (or a similar large figure) to be explored and added to the expanded universe. Shepard's saga will end with Mass Effect 3, but there will most likely be other stories to tell in this galaxy (It would be stupid to leave this original and great ip to rot after only 3 games).