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[Tal-N]

Having finished the game tonight and looking through the forums it seems to me that many people managed to have all of their team survive the suicide mission. Which boggles my mind when I consider that there are so many ways to make mistakes. Now, I can understand some people are just lucky but never in a million years would I have figured that leaving behind 6 people to 'hold the line' while taking two of my tough guys to deal with the boss would result in someone getting killed. I mean come on now, I lost Mordin because I DIDN'T take him to face the boss? That just doesn't make much sense. If anything facing the boss was one of the more dangerous things which could happen since it was 3 of us on a team while those holding the line were a small army.

But in any event, I feel that I have to live with the consequences of my actions in order to really benefit from taking part in a story where my choices effect the story itself. Reloading just because I now know how to save Mordin doesn't sit right with me and frankly I was very fond of that character and losing him will stick in my memory as part of a wonderful game experience. As far as I'm concerned, it is right up there with when Aerith was killed in Final Fantasy 7 but rather than it being predestined, I know it was a choice I made which caused it.

So what about you? Did you reload to fix a 'mistake' you made? Or did you simply accept that choices sometimes come with consequences you don't like? How often did you use the magical 'load' button to pull a Quantum Leap on your game?

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

I saved everyone on my first try.



Legion for the vents, Miranda leading both teams, Garrus escorted the crew back to the Normandy, Samara did the biotic part.

I brought Tali and Samara to the boss fight.

[Jarcander]

I didn't reload. Thane and Mordin croaked for good. Of course that was only for the first play thru. I haven't lost a squad member since.

[Skilled Seeker]

No I didn't. Because goddam heroes don't reload (RIP Zaeed + Legion). However on other playthroughs I know how to save everyone now

[jwilliamson77]

I just used common sense. Lost no one on my first try.

[Aisynia]

Lost four people on my first playthrough.



Garrus, Samara, Miranda and.. can't remember.

[chool77]

yes

[Vaenier]

Its not cheating, its fixing horrible design decisions made by BioWare. You are only cheating yourself if you let them die from faulty game development.

[GenericPlayer2]

I didn't save everyone the first time because I was trying hard to get Jack killed.

[Shinigami013]

Yea I cheated

[cutthecameras]

I didn't reload. Tali and Zaeed died. I'll leave the no one left behind nonsense for other playthroughs.

[Nyaore]

General consensus is that Mordin is glitched during that part of the game, and that the only sure fire way to save his scaly ass is to send him back with the crew or gain his loyalty and take him with you to fight the final boss. I'm sure Bioware will fix it eventually...



Most of the deaths in my game happened after I beat the boss and everyone was retreating back to the Normandy. As such I didn't bother reloading to a previous save to ensure that said person(s) would live because I didn't want to deal with the hassle of fighting the reaper again. Which is why Miranda is permanently dead on one playthrough, and Mordin is permanently dead on the other. (Though I'm only keeping the latter playthrough for ME just in case we get MORE LI options.)

[Skilled Seeker]

Vaenier wrote...

Its not cheating, its fixing horrible design decisions made by BioWare. You are only cheating yourself if you let them die from faulty game development.

Mind shining some light upon these 'horrible design decisions' cheating scum?

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 01 mars 2010 - 12:38 .

[GreedIsNoException]

I saved everyone without cheating. I cheated later to see how to have them die...

[crimzontearz]

I did not cheat, Liara chose her drell frogboy friend and her revenge over me, she can go **** herself and happily embrace eternity with Feron....the relationship is over for me


oh wait wrong cheating LOL

Modifié par crimzontearz, 01 mars 2010 - 12:44 .

[Skilled Seeker]

Nyaore wrote...

General consensus is that Mordin is glitched during that part of the game, and that the only sure fire way to save his scaly ass is to send him back with the crew or gain his loyalty and take him with you to fight the final boss. I'm sure Bioware will fix it eventually...

No get your facts straight. Its public knowledge that Mordin is the first to die at the 'hold the line' segment of the mission if you don't have strong soilder characters defending such as Grunt and Zaeed. Loyalty of your entire crew is also a factor. This is not a glitch.

[mjkjets]

I'm proud to say I didn't cheat. Only Jacob died on my first playthough and I saved my crew.

[Vaenier]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Its not cheating, its fixing horrible design decisions made by BioWare. You are only cheating yourself if you let them die from faulty game development.

Mind shining some light upon these 'horrible design decisions' cheating scum?

Having a character die by doing the logical thing is a bad design. [Moridin holding the line instead of fighting a reaper in hand to hand combat...]
Having a character die because they are ignoring a characters history is a bad design. [using Tali, who led a suicide mission on halstrum place already, or Zaheed, a blue suns founder, or Mordin who is an STG operative, be the second squad leader.]
having a rock kill a squad member based on their loyalty is a bad design. how are loyal squad members better at surviving rocks?

[Malastrail]

On my first play-through I lost Kelly Chambers and some crew members but everyone on my team survived.

[enormousmoonboots]

I saved everybody. Though I did take Garrus and Grunt with me to the final battle (sent Mordin back to the ship), so after becoming aware of the line-holding mechanics that's kind of a surprise now.

[sonofalich]

first time around mordin died, second time jack died, and now this time i'm hoping no one will die

[Tal-N]

I have to wonder why Mordin is the most common to die. Perhaps the cure for the genophage dies with him?

[MPSai]

I lost Miranda's loyalty, I had no idea the fights would do that (especially since I JUST finished her loyalty mission when it happened) and by the time I realized what had happened I had done too much to want to go back.



Everyone else was loyal, I didn't put her on any of the jobs, **** still died.



So I went back to the middle of the final level later, switched the mode to Casual, beat it again and she lived. got the achievement. Haaa. Yeah that was cheap of me.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Saved everyone on the first try, without any spoilers (well, I knew about the crew thing, but other than that). I would've totally reloaded if anyone had died, though. I didn't spend all this time getting to know them just to let them die. I'm a Paragon, gosh-darn it!

[fredders]

I lost Tali (god damn door!) and Zaeed on my first playthrough, but havn't lost one since.



You only need their loyalty and upgrades and you'll be fine.