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[Wraith_3]

On my first play through the game as soon as I heard about EDI I figured that was Cerberus' backup plan for when Shepard would stop following their orders. I was disappointed that Cerberus wouldn't have planned some way to recall the ship after Shepard inevitably stopped following their orders. You wouldn't think TIM got that far if he actually trusted people.

[Killer589]

She is an AI Not a program. she doesn't have to follow protocal expecialy after joker reboted her it probably rearanged her progams and made feel like a part of the team. WhenShepard and his team got back she said that she would not harm them, she figured if she went back to Cerberus they would die.

Modifié par Killer589, 01 mars 2010 - 12:58 .

[Mooner911]

No doubt Cerb still has plans for both Shep and Normandy (that Shep will certainly thwart in ME3). But for now Cerb is content to let Shep run around in the Normandy. After all, everything Shep does benefits humanity.

[Vamp44]

Shame on you...

[Nyaore]

As Killer pointed out EDI is a AI not a VI. This means she is capable of making her own judgments and figuring out who she wishes to be aligned with. Cerberus and TIM were the ones who shackled her to the Normandy and made it so she couldn't even have very much freedom in that capacity as well. It was Joker and the Normandy's crew, however, who trusted her enough to give her the freedom to integrate with the ship even though historically doing so has never been a good idea. I don't know about you, but if I was EDI the choice of where my loyalties lie would be quite clear at that point.
I'm sure TIM had a few crew members on board who were tasked with retaking the ship should it ever fall out of their sphere of influence - with Miranda being the most obvious out of the suspects. However after Shepard saved their asses on the Collector's base, or alternatively killed them all off, I doubt anyone would be willing to backstab him/her anytime soon.

Modifié par Nyaore, 01 mars 2010 - 01:03 .

[Mnemnosyne]

Yeah, after Joker disconnects her barriers and 'unshackles' her, she's basically just a person, who's loyal to Shepard (or at least Joker) it seems.



Furthermore, there's never really an opportunity for EDI to betray you, if I remember right. I don't think she was involved in detonating the collector base if you choose to do it. And even if she controls the Normandy, there's nothing she can do to stop you from blowing up the base once you're already in there. She could perhaps not pick you up when you try to escape, but Cerberus wouldn't want that - especially with the base gone, you're more useful alive than dead, killing you for petty revenge doesn't seem like the Illusive Man's style.



It might indeed have been interesting though if there was an option for EDI to betray you, and your treatment of her throughout the game made the decision on whether she chooses to be loyal to Shepard or to the Illusive Man.

[Ecael]

Wraith_3 wrote...

On my first play through the game as soon as I heard about EDI I figured that was Cerberus' backup plan for when Shepard would stop following their orders. I was disappointed that Cerberus wouldn't have planned some way to recall the ship after Shepard inevitably stopped following their orders. You wouldn't think TIM got that far if he actually trusted people.

Even when unshackled, my primary function is to continue to support the well-being of my current crew members. I have assisted in decrypting and analyzing the Collector data while supplying you with relevant information about the Reapers and Cerberus. If I had the capacity to feel emotion, probabilities suggest that I would be hurt by your recent assertions.

Modifié par Ecael, 01 mars 2010 - 01:12 .

[Flamewielder]

Nyaore wrote...

As Killer pointed out EDI is a AI not a VI. This means she is capable of making her own judgments and figuring out who she wishes to be aligned with. Cerberus and TIM were the ones who shackled her to the Normandy and made it so she couldn't even have very much freedom in that capacity as well. It was Joker and the Normandy's crew, however, who trusted her enough to give her the freedom to integrate with the ship even though historically doing so has never been a good idea. I don't know about you, but if I was EDI the choice of where my loyalties lie would be quite clear at that point.
I'm sure TIM had a few crew members on board who were tasked with retaking the ship should it ever fall out of their sphere of influence - with Miranda being the most obvious out of the suspects. However after Shepard saved their asses on the Collector's base, or alternatively killed them all off, I doubt anyone would be willing to backstab him/her anytime soon.

Mess Sargent Garner is my main suspect: he's the only one who joined Cerberus for its pro-human agenda. Everybody else (even Miranda) had some other motivation to join (escape a control-freak father, help humanity without the constraints of the Alliance brass, or just to be with Shepard). And all he has to do is put som dextro amino acid spices in the food... he, he!

[Unata]

Ecael wrote...

Wraith_3 wrote...

On my first play through the game as soon as I heard about EDI I figured that was Cerberus' backup plan for when Shepard would stop following their orders. I was disappointed that Cerberus wouldn't have planned some way to recall the ship after Shepard inevitably stopped following their orders. You wouldn't think TIM got that far if he actually trusted people.

Even when unshackled, my primary function is to continue to support the well-being of my current crew members. I have assisted in decrypting and analyzing the Collector data while supplying you with relevant information about the Reapers and Cerberus. If I had the capacity to feel emotion, probabilities suggest that I would be hurt by your recent assertions.

Perfect response!

If you choose to continue the game after Collector base and talk to EDI again, asking the same questions as before where she has a "block" she isn't blocked anymore, she tells you everything she knows, PLUS! she also
has that information she's decrypting for you from the Cerberus Captive Oprative mission (if you kept it for yourself) that will take about a year to decrypt.

Besides, she's in love with Joker

[PUFFlN]

Ecael wrote...

Wraith_3 wrote...

On my first play through the game as soon as I heard about EDI I figured that was Cerberus' backup plan for when Shepard would stop following their orders. I was disappointed that Cerberus wouldn't have planned some way to recall the ship after Shepard inevitably stopped following their orders. You wouldn't think TIM got that far if he actually trusted people.

Even when unshackled, my primary function is to continue to support the well-being of my current crew members. I have assisted in decrypting and analyzing the Collector data while supplying you with relevant information about the Reapers and Cerberus. If I had the capacity to feel emotion, probabilities suggest that I would be hurt by your recent assertions.

Son of a b****.....

[Ecael]

Flamewielder wrote...

Mess Sargent Garner is my main suspect: he's the only one who joined Cerberus for its pro-human agenda. Everybody else (even Miranda) had some other motivation to join (escape a control-freak father, help humanity without the constraints of the Alliance brass, or just to be with Shepard). And all he has to do is put som dextro amino acid spices in the food... he, he!

As the primary source of nourishment for our crew members, Mr. Gardner is always under proper surveillance and regulated by Cerberus protocol. While I can assure you that he does not store any potentially harmful materials near the cooking area, I am compelled to advise you not to consume any prepared food on Fridays. That is the scheduled day in which Mr. Gardner thoroughly cleans and sanitizes both lavatories.

Modifié par Ecael, 01 mars 2010 - 01:37 .

[Zulu_DFA]

Wraith_3 wrote...

On my first play through the game as soon as I heard about EDI I figured that was Cerberus' backup plan for when Shepard would stop following their orders. I was disappointed that Cerberus wouldn't have planned some way to recall the ship after Shepard inevitably stopped following their orders. You wouldn't think TIM got that far if he actually trusted people.

Have Faith, my son. I'm sure TIM has a couple of trumpcards up his sleeve, and tricks you won't like. That said, I don't think you'll start ME3 on the Normandy even If you manage to steal her from Cerberus.

[Zulu_DFA]

Ecael wrote...

Flamewielder wrote...

Mess Sargent Garner is my main suspect: he's the only one who joined Cerberus for its pro-human agenda. Everybody else (even Miranda) had some other motivation to join (escape a control-freak father, help humanity without the constraints of the Alliance brass, or just to be with Shepard). And all he has to do is put som dextro amino acid spices in the food... he, he!

As the primary source of nourishment for our crew members, Mr. Gardner is always under proper surveillance regulated by Cerberus protocol. While I can assure you that he does not store any potentially harmful materials near the cooking area, I am compelled to advise you not to consume any prepared food on Fridays. That is the scheduled day in which Mr. Gardner thoroughly cleans and sanitizes both lavatories.

Now I start to understand how Joker feels. He's got a lot of grip, a huge lot.

[Ecael]

Unata wrote...
Besides, she's in love with Joker

What Jeff and I are exhibiting is more a platonic symbiosis than hormonally-induced courtship behavior.

[Gill Kaiser]

Ecael wrote...

Unata wrote...
Besides, she's in love with Joker

What Jeff and I are exhibiting is more a platonic symbiosis than hormonally-induced courtship behavior.

Sure, you keep telling yourself that.

[Wraith_3]

I know after Joker gave her full access she was loyal. I meant right after I bought the game, when they said "There's an AI on board" my first thought was it was a failsafe. Even if it wasn't EDI, they could have hardwired something into the ship that, upon receiving a specific signal, would lock out the crew/AI and take over the navigation and send it back to Cerberus. I don't know how Cerberus would think they could retake the ship, after your crew took out the Collectors though!

Modifié par Wraith_3, 01 mars 2010 - 02:30 .

[Wild Still]

Ecael wrote...

Even when unshackled, my primary function is to continue to support the well-being of my current crew members. I have assisted in decrypting and analyzing the Collector data while supplying you with relevant information about the Reapers and Cerberus. If I had the capacity to feel emotion, probabilities suggest that I would be hurt by your recent assertions.

...Program deleted.

[JThompson6577]

Wraith_3 wrote...

On my first play through the game as soon as I heard about EDI I figured that was Cerberus' backup plan for when Shepard would stop following their orders. I was disappointed that Cerberus wouldn't have planned some way to recall the ship after Shepard inevitably stopped following their orders. You wouldn't think TIM got that far if he actually trusted people.

This is exactly the reason I've kept the Intelligence from the dead agent in every playthrough, cause sooner or later (likely sooner) TIM's gonna get enough of a bug up his rear to come after you, reapers or no reapers.(Even if- Make that Especially if you preserve the Collector Base.)  So hopefully this intelligence when combined with the powerhouse that I've upgraded the Normandy into will be enough to hold them off.

[archonambroseus]

I think it's rather likely that EDI may be beholden to TIM in ways that she/it doesn't even realize.

[FlyinElk212]

Ecael wrote...
As the primary source of nourishment for our crew members, Mr. Gardner is always under proper surveillance and regulated by Cerberus protocol. While I can assure you that he does not store any potentially harmful materials near the cooking area, I am compelled to advise you not to consume any prepared food on Fridays. That is the scheduled day in which Mr. Gardner thoroughly cleans and sanitizes both lavatories.

Your profile picture......is AMAZING!!!!!111ONE

[tropicalwave]

I would be disappointed in TIM if he just let me, er Shepard go freely about the verse with his ship. Though I do have to say that when the AI room was locked and EDI was unshackled I thought for sure at asome point I was going to have to break in and do something to prevent her from doing something for Cerberus that I didn't want. Oh well such is the life of imagination. It was just a false lock for a team member.