BobbyTheI wrote...
Here's my last word, and then I'm done.
I don't usually start threads trying to argue something. It's just not really my thing. But if I were to do something like that, my inherent goal in doing that would be one thing: to have somebody convince me that I'm wrong. I'm looking for people to present good arguments and refute them if they don't make sense, and concede if they do.
ZennExile does not do this.
There are a lot of people on this forum that have the same opinion as him. There are a lot of people who don't like ME2, who wish it was more like ME1, who wish it had the deep RPG elements they wanted. I have no problem with them. That's their opinion; it's not the same as mine, no biggie.
There are people who don't like the same characters I do. Again, that's their right. I have no problem with them, because that's their opinion.
The problem I have with ZE in particular is that not only is he utterly convinced his opinions are utterly right, not only does he absolutely refuse to concede even a single point to anyone who disagrees with him, but that he does so with an attitude that anyone who disagrees with him is not only wrong, but so utterly stupid and misinformed that they are worthy of nothing less than the lowest of scorn.
And anyone who calls him out on this attitude, who dares to be annoyed that their difference of opinion makes them "speshul" (oh, the ripping wit) in his mind, is a troll. I first witnessed this attitude on the Jack thread, where he came on to tell us all how stupid we are for liking Jack, and how he's smart enough to know she's a terrible character.
Never mind that this is all subjective opinion, and that we had the right to like a character if we wanted, even if he didn't. We were all WRONG, and he was RIGHT. And no matter how many times people tried to convince them of their opinion. there was no shift on his side. He was still completely right, they were wrong, and that was that.
And when I told the people in the thread to stop bothering, that nothing they said was going to change his opinion in the least, and insisted that people just ignore his posts, I became a troll, because I decided not to play his pointless game. And then he went to the Thane thread and tried to stir things up there.
This is why I try to tell you people not to bother. A real argument requires two people who are willing to admit that their opponent has a good point when they do. ZE will NEVER do this. NEVER NEVER NEVER. If you can find me one post, one SINGLE post on this board where ZE has said anything to the effect of "I was wrong," I will give you a shiny trophy, because I'm firmly convinced it doesn't exist. You would get more mileage picking a random wall in your house and trying to have an argument with it. You will argue in circles for days, and when people give up and the thread falls out of the top pages, well, he'll just start a new argument, and go through the exact same procedure.
Argue with anybody else around here, and you at least have the hope that maybe they'll take your points into account, that maybe they'll listen to what you're saying and change their opinion. That maybe, once in a blue moon, they might concede they were wrong.
ZennExile does not do this. And this is why I wish everybody would stop bothering.
This probably deserves its own thread that be stickied to the top of the forums.





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