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[Caozen]

That armor the Shadow is wearing looks mighty badass.

[RurouniSaiya-jin]

Andrastee wrote...

Rain Of Arrows, here I come! I wonder if this is a talent at the end of one of the existing branches or if there'll be a whole new branch for each weapon talent ...?

O.o I missed that talent. It looks awesome! Nanashi Tabris shall be most pleased to use that one in combat ^,^

[dunachar]

Hmmmm lots of LOTRO skills with the same names there......thats getting a little too close imo.



Still, really cool skills

[Andraste_Reborn]

RurouniSaiya-jin wrote...

Nanashi Tabris shall be most pleased to use that one in combat ^,^

Aleyna Cousland is going to spend the entire expansion raining death on her enemies . Fa'Lon Din's Reach has a much longer range than grenades, so by the time the mobs get near her she'll be concealed in the shadows again.

[RurouniSaiya-jin]

Andrastee wrote...

Aleyna Cousland is going to spend the entire expansion raining death on her enemies . Fa'Lon Din's Reach has a much longer range than grenades, so by the time the mobs get near her she'll be concealed in the shadows again.

Awesome strategy. I might have to steal it Though, I hope we'll be getting a very nice bow to replace Fa'Lon Din's Reach early on

[Kileyan]

**The character singles out an enemy for death, stabbing it quickly and repeatedly, consuming a small amount of stamina with each hit. The assault continues until the target dies or flees, or until the character misses or runs out of stamina. If the target is bleeding from Twin Strikes, each swing becomes a critical hit. If the target is slowed by Low Blow, the character cannot miss.**

Does that mean it will only crit if the target is bleeding, or it is just an auto crit if the target is bleeding, and regular chances to crit or backstab will still apply?

Rogues aren't underpowered at all as is, just a little boring other than placing yourself behind the critters. There is rarely a reason to use anything but auto attack under momentum, as losing backstabs and crits to activated skills is never something you do for a dps increase.

Modifié par Kileyan, 02 mars 2010 - 12:33 .

[Kimarous]

What makes me curious is whether those DW and Archery talents are Rogue-only or will be open to Warriors as well...

[Kileyan]

Kimarous wrote...

What makes me curious is whether those DW and Archery talents are Rogue-only or will be open to Warriors as well...

I would think they are for both. Bioware isn't likely to change now. Why do extra work for class specific trees, when they can get double duty for the same work. Not to mention the release talents actually look like fun upgrades for a warrior, but still kinda lackluster for any rogue player that takes care to be behind his opponents.

[wwwwwasd]

so if shadow is focused on expanding shady backstab rogues, im guessing the second unconfirmed one (scout) is going to expand on archery focused rogues.



at least, i hope so. my character is fully specced for archery.

[Leonia]

dunachar wrote...

Hmmmm lots of LOTRO skills with the same names there......thats getting a little too close imo.

Still, really cool skills

Was thinking the same, though not complaining. Yay, I can keep being an awesome rogue archer

[KnightofPhoenix]

Caozen wrote...

That armor the Shadow is wearing looks mighty badass.

Looks like the typical heavy armor doesn't it?

[Finnegone]

Kileyan wrote...

**The character singles out an enemy for death, stabbing it quickly and repeatedly, consuming a small amount of stamina with each hit. The assault continues until the target dies or flees, or until the character misses or runs out of stamina. If the target is bleeding from Twin Strikes, each swing becomes a critical hit. If the target is slowed by Low Blow, the character cannot miss.**

Does that mean it will only crit if the target is bleeding, or it is just an auto crit if the target is bleeding, and regular chances to crit or backstab will still apply?

Rogues aren't underpowered at all as is, just a little boring other than placing yourself behind the critters. There is rarely a reason to use anything but auto attack under momentum, as losing backstabs and crits to activated skills is never something you do for a dps increase.

I agree. Judging by this description, it looks as if the 4 new named combat talents (Twin Strikes, Low Blow, Heartseeker and Unending Flurry) are all based around single-target DPS, which is precisely what the rogue does not need. I also fail to see how Heartseeker is an improvement over using Quiet Death.

[Finnegone]

wwwwwasd wrote...

so if shadow is focused on expanding shady backstab rogues, im guessing the second unconfirmed one (scout) is going to expand on archery focused rogues.

at least, i hope so. my character is fully specced for archery.

From the IGN preview (http://xbox360.ign.c.../1070139p1.html):

"Rogues, such as the new character Sigrun, can specialize in Legionnaire Scout, which across its skillset offers bonuses to strength and constitution, resistance to damage and knockdown, the ability to drain stamina instead of health, and immunity from both friendly and hostile spells"

[Morroian]

wwwwwasd wrote...

so if shadow is focused on expanding shady backstab rogues, im guessing the second unconfirmed one (scout) is going to expand on archery focused rogues.

Legionnaire Scout in the descriptions so far seems to be more based around melee combat and bringing rogue close to warrior.

[Kileyan]

Finnegone wrote...

Kileyan wrote...

**The character singles out an enemy for death, stabbing it quickly and repeatedly, consuming a small amount of stamina with each hit. The assault continues until the target dies or flees, or until the character misses or runs out of stamina. If the target is bleeding from Twin Strikes, each swing becomes a critical hit. If the target is slowed by Low Blow, the character cannot miss.**

Does that mean it will only crit if the target is bleeding, or it is just an auto crit if the target is bleeding, and regular chances to crit or backstab will still apply?

Rogues aren't underpowered at all as is, just a little boring other than placing yourself behind the critters. There is rarely a reason to use anything but auto attack under momentum, as losing backstabs and crits to activated skills is never something you do for a dps increase.

I agree. Judging by this description, it looks as if the 4 new named combat talents (Twin Strikes, Low Blow, Heartseeker and Unending Flurry) are all based around single-target DPS, which is precisely what the rogue does not need. I also fail to see how Heartseeker is an improvement over using Quiet Death.

That is what I was getting at, everything is activated attacks likely for bad buy facing you.

If a dev every read this, I'd would ask if you regret building in the caveat of no crits and back stab possibilities on all of the activated skills. Likely too far baked into the sytem to ever change. It is a shame.  They really do ruin entire skill lines of cool looking skills for the rogue types. No rogue would ever stand in front of a target and not want to crit, unless it was some wierd role play angle.

Modifié par Kileyan, 02 mars 2010 - 05:43 .

[Hathur]

Unending flurry looks pathetic, I'm sorry to say... you took the default stabbing animation and set it to cycle over and over real fast.... it's an expansion pack.. not DLC... can't you make a NEW animation for it??

[Spitz6860]

some nice stuff, shadow seems like a worth while spec

[Spawny]

I just made my new rogue skilled in archery so the Rain of Arrows is looking good to me

[Lucky_Rogue]

I agree that the way unending flurry looks in that little movie is kinda lame. I think some of that has to do with the fact that the enemy he is attacking is just standing there, though. I am going to give it the benefit of the doubt for now, in terms of how it looks.



What really excites me about the skill is in its description. The part about having other skills such as low blow and twin strikes effect how unending flurry works is really cool. I am hoping they add a lot more of this kind of thing to both warriors and rogues. I think it goes a long way towards making them more interesting to play.

[Ferret A Baudoin]

Archery abilities can also be picked up by warriors. Most archers tend to be rogues, though. Hence the inclusion in the rogue section. And the whole Archery tree is yummy.

[J-Reyno]

Personally just can't wait to use rain of arrows. Really want to use it on a mob out of stealth. And I don't think unending flurry looks that bad - just very psycho-stabbity killerish. But that's probably the point.

Modifié par Reyno411, 02 mars 2010 - 06:00 .

[MarkyBoy147]

yessssss, non purple rogue armor thank you kind sirs.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Ferret A Baudoin wrote...

And the whole Archery tree is yummy.

Hooray! The first Warden I played is a rogue archer, so I look forward to the new abilities. I hope we're also getting a great bow or two and some new light armor.

I'm also curious about whether Heartseeker works with archery, or only with melee weapons? Not that I I'll need it; Arrow of Slaying usually gets the job done.

[Nhadalie]

Unending flurry looks hilarious. Like something from a cheesy exercise infomercial except with swords and stabbing people.

I am so looking forward to having a shadow rogue though, funny looking animations and all.