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[Kalledon]

Haven't been on the forums in a couple weeks.  BioWare said anything yet about why the Origins DLC items are being excluded from Awakening?

[Dethanos]

Well, there was one post where they claimed the reason was that we would find better gear in Awakening. Of course, it was pointed out that that doesn't really qualify as a reason.

[Kalledon]

So no real reason yet other then the presumed laziness in their own coding.

[xzxzxz701]

Theres no need to call them lazy, just be happy that we can even import items at all.

[Vuokseniska]

why do you need a reason? will any reason justify the exclusion?

[Schwinni]

The given reason "there are better items" is totally against my understand of role playing. It gives Dragon Age the touch of the Diablo series - stats, only the stats.
The reason I want to keep Duncan's Sword is that is was Duncan's sword!
The reason I want to keep the Warden's Commander Armor is that in fact my character IS the Warden Commander - at least in Ferelden. And I even dress the armor before talking to important people just to show that I wear this armor.
My excitement for Awakening is completely gone now. I wonder why they sell it as add-on anyway, if everything (romances, item I like) is NOT transferred!

Modifié par Schwinni, 01 mars 2010 - 07:03 .

[DJ0000]

I'm sure that once you get some of the new items you will get attached to them to. I realsise that it's disappointing but I'm sure you can get over it enough to play the game.

[MacrossMan]

Yeah, Bioware dropped the ball on this one. I heard they are looking into patching the Origins DLC items into Awakenings thought. I'm not too sure though. Maybe a Bioware rep can confirm that?





Like many others, I'm going to wait and see if they patch it in before I spend my money on it.



This whole experience has put a dent in my excitement level for the game. :/

[gulegule]

From the QA thread:

Why don’t my DLC items carry forward?
The rewards in Awakening quickly outpace the best items you’d find from Origins and Origins’ DLC. The root of the issue is that the previously released DLC was not built in such a way that those DLC items import properly into Awakening.

Rather than spending the resources addressing this thorny issue in multiple DLCs, we spent our time adding features and polish that made Awakening better. We believed that since the gear was quickly replaced that this wasn’t a major issue. We are currently investigating solutions for a possible patch.

So the reason is a mix of "We don't have time" and "we didn't think it would be worth it".

Hopefully the mentioned patch will fix this at some point

Modifié par gulegule, 01 mars 2010 - 07:30 .

[Hrodberht]

There was a Q&A where a dev said basically, coding all the DLC stuff would take time, and they didn't want to expend the resources, and didn't think anyone would care. Man, thay are sure batting 1000 in the PR department, huh?

Modifié par Hrodberht, 01 mars 2010 - 07:51 .

[Dussan2]

I don't want them wasting time trying to port items that I am going to replace in less than a hour into the game.



Trash it.



Besides what DLC would you want anyway?

[Schwinni]

Duncan's weapons and all the stuff related to the Grey Wardens from Warden's Keep!

Modifié par Schwinni, 01 mars 2010 - 07:49 .

[Dethanos]

..The rewards in Awakening quickly outpace the best items you’d find from Origins and Origins’ DLC.

I'm still not buying this one. For that to be true I would need to find at least 4 or 5 longswords better than Starfang and Maric's Blade, and 2 or 3 sets of armor better than Cailan's in the first few hours of gameplay. Unless they railroad us through a couple of "Monty Haul" missions at the beginning, that doesn't seem all that likely.

[Hrodberht]

Dussan2 wrote...

I don't want them wasting time trying to port items that I am going to replace in less than a hour into the game.

Trash it.

Besides what DLC would you want anyway?

So?  If you personally don't want to use any older DLC stuff, don't.  Why do you seem to not want anyone else to do so?

[Dethanos]

Dussan2 wrote...

Besides what DLC would you want anyway?

Cailan's Armor
Maric's Blade
Duncan's Sword
Duncan's Dagger
Warden Commander Armor
Starfang
Helm of Honnleath
Harvest Festival Ring
& more

[Lil-Vinny29]

RP wise it would be better to continue with them but surely the decision has been made since not everybody bought the DLCs but it could be a nice marketing strategy to let them go into Awakening.

You want the items into Awakening, buy our DLCs.

But like some say, surely theres better waiting... An improved warden's commander armor set ?

Modifié par Lil-Vinny29, 01 mars 2010 - 08:04 .

[Schwinni]

Yeah, I take all the stuff of the Wardens to the final battle in DAO, also the shields from Mikhael Dryden, even if they don't have any specials stats - they have the Grey Wardens heraldry!

Even if I don't use them, I want to have them and store them somewhere.

Something like the mannequin mod for Oblivion would be perfect! A room with figures which you can dress with your collected armor sets and weapons. I'd love that!

[GBurnette]

Hrmm... My Warden has sold the majority of his other equipment and is wearing mostly DLC equipment. Will he simply start the game without equipment in these slots?



Should I try to find the vendor I sold the equipment to and buy it back so I have it available?

[trh5001]

GBurnette wrote...

Hrmm... My Warden has sold the majority of his other equipment and is wearing mostly DLC equipment. Will he simply start the game without equipment in these slots?

Should I try to find the vendor I sold the equipment to and buy it back so I have it available?

The only character you carry over is the main character so it shouldnt be hard to gear up in non dlc items.  I would however not have to do this and just get the dlc items I paid for to carry over.  Hopefully if worse comes to worse and you import a character tha has items that can't be used they pull a Throne of Bhaal and give you a bunch of good items to start off with.

[Kalledon]

gulegule wrote...

From the QA thread:

Why don’t my DLC items carry forward?
The rewards in Awakening quickly outpace the best items you’d find from Origins and Origins’ DLC. The root of the issue is that the previously released DLC was not built in such a way that those DLC items import properly into Awakening.

Rather than spending the resources addressing this thorny issue in multiple DLCs, we spent our time adding features and polish that made Awakening better. We believed that since the gear was quickly replaced that this wasn’t a major issue. We are currently investigating solutions for a possible patch.

So the reason is a mix of "We don't have time" and "we didn't think it would be worth it".

Hopefully the mentioned patch will fix this at some point

See this makes no sense to me.  Awakening requires Origins to play.  Awakening is not a stand alone game it is using the prebuilt engine and database that Origins has.  The item database exists in Origins.  Unless they seriously created a brand new item database and made it separate from the Origins database (which is reinventing the wheel if your expanding on existing content) then there should be no reason they can't include the DLC items which exist in the Origins item database.

Note the use of the word database does not necessarilly mean there is a database in there I was just using the most appropriate term I could think of for how they are likely stored.

[ArcanistLibram]

DLC's copy protection screwed it up, most likely.

[Merci357]

The reason I want to keep Duncan's Sword is that is was Duncan's sword!
The reason I want to keep the Warden's Commander Armor is that in fact my character IS the Warden Commander - at least in Ferelden.

That's my point.
It's a given that Awakening items will be better, stats wise. So, for example, if mage helmets are as ugly as in DA:O, and if there is again no simple helmet switch, then I don't equip any helmet at all on my mage (I'd keep one, sure, just in case, I'd ever need a few extra stats)...
I just don't care about stats that much. However, I care about collecting memorable and/or pretty things.

Modifié par Merci357, 01 mars 2010 - 10:51 .

[NightmarezAbound]

Perhaps there will be a new set of Commanders armour in Awakenings?

afterall, imagine the smell as it was worn for a hundred years on basically a walking corpse, talk about wanting to stay upwind. It belonged in the same smelly pile as Dog pre Wynne washed, and Alistairs socks.

[Nic-V]

I honestly couldn't care less. If we get better gear it works for me

[Victor Wachter]

Dethanos wrote...

Well, there was one post where they claimed the reason was that we would find better gear in Awakening. Of course, it was pointed out that that doesn't really qualify as a reason.

Let's be accurate when repeating what we said

The main reason is that importing some of the DLC turned out to be a tricky development problem. Knowing you'd be receiving better items, the team chose to put resources toward improving gameplay and polish for the game rather than importing items that you're not likely to keep.

But now for a thread exclusive announcement (well, it won't be exclusive for long. I am going to update the Awakening Q&A after this): I learned today that items from Return to Ostagar will import. So, at the very least you can bring Cailan's armor and Duncan's Dagger over. That's not shabby gear either.