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[hex23]

Some people (for whatever reason) prefer "ME1" to "ME2". Eh, whatever.

But to say "ME1" has better graphics....that's ridiculous. It's silly to even joke about.

[TJSolo]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

TJSolo wrote...



He also states he expected and encouraged changes.
Then again, I read the entire post not just the bits I can easily nitpick.
I also don't find the OP completely beleiveable.
He has had ME2 registered for atleast 8 days. So he is trolling.

Back to policing the forums my friend?

Policing, no.
I just noticed that the OP posted about loving ME2 a few days ago and then makes this thread.
Obviously he is a lair and troll.

The ones policing this thread would be the ones hijacking it so it gets modded.
Have you read anything or just stalking me?

[TJSolo]

ImperialOperative wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

If you say so.
Your explanation was riveting and decisive.

How revolting, disgusting, fallacious, pretentious, and bombastic.

Leave. Now.

I am still waiting for hell to freeze over or you make a post relevant to the topic.

[ImperialOperative]

TJSolo wrote...

Policing, no.
I just noticed that the OP posted about loving ME2 a few days ago and then makes this thread.
Obviously he is a lair and troll.

The ones policing this thread would be the ones hijacking it so it gets modded.
Have you read anything or just stalking me?

Whoa broski, tone down the hostility, we don't want no trouble.

[ImperialOperative]

TJSolo wrote...

I am still waiting for hell to freeze over or you make a post relevant to the topic.

Well, the joke is on you because Hell proper IS frozen.  

[DarthCaine]

And back on topic, I like pancakes too

[addiction21]

DarthCaine wrote...

And back on topic, I like pancakes too

It is okay to like them...  but pancakes are not as good as waffles.

[GnusmasTHX]

hex23 wrote...

Some people (for whatever reason) prefer "ME1" to "ME2". Eh, whatever.

But to say "ME1" has better graphics....that's ridiculous. It's silly to even joke about.

They have different looks, not one is better than the other.

It's easy to notice if you go from game to game, I actually like ME1's look a bit better, but that's just me.

Of course there are issues with ME1 that are fixed in ME2, but that's obviously outside of ME1's intended "look". (Crappy textures and shading, for example, and much better optimization for the PC version.)

[cruc1al]

I approve of the delicious derailment this thread has undergone. Waffles > regular pancakes though. But http://en.wikipedia.....org/wiki/Crêpe over anything else though.

Modifié par cruc1al, 02 mars 2010 - 03:13 .

[CommanderShawn]

addiction21 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

And back on topic, I like pancakes too

It is okay to like them...  but pancakes are not as good as waffles.

pancakes are way better than waffles

[ImperialOperative]

cruc1al wrote...

I approve of the delicious derailment this thread has undergone. Waffles > regular pancakes though. But http://en.wikipedia.....org/wiki/Crêpe over anything else though.

You disgust me.

[ImperialOperative]

CommanderShawn wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

And back on topic, I like pancakes too

It is okay to like them...  but pancakes are not as good as waffles.

pancakes are way better than waffles

Only if you were born without tastebuds.

[DracoFulcrum]

Crepes are good, but only if you fill them with sweet stuff.

[Sanzee]

I f*cking love waffles

[TJSolo]

ImperialOperative wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

I am still waiting for hell to freeze over or you make a post relevant to the topic.

Well, the joke is on you because Hell proper IS frozen.  

Oh one line retorts and no grammar **** on the interwebz.
You sir have mastered the art of trolling.

I would post a nice pic of a cat doing a thumbs up while being chased by a dog, but we aren't in /b/ and I don't care enough to find that pic.

[addiction21]

CommanderShawn wrote...


pancakes are way better than waffles

[cruc1al]

DracoFulcrum wrote...

Crepes are good, but only if you fill them with sweet stuff.

Yeah, the best combination is strawberry jam and whipped cream. Finger-lickin' goood.

Modifié par cruc1al, 02 mars 2010 - 03:22 .

[SithLordExarKun]

TJSolo wrote...


Policing, no.
I just noticed that the OP posted about loving ME2 a few days ago and then makes this thread.
Obviously he is a lair and troll.

The ones policing this thread would be the ones hijacking it so it gets modded.
Have you read anything or just stalking me?

Nah just happen to saw you here.

I like waffles.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 02 mars 2010 - 03:25 .

[voteDC]

Well in regard to the side-missions looking better, well quite frankly I would expect them to since the overall enviroments they take place in are far smaller.

As a general rule though of course Mass Effect 2 looks better than the first game, after two odd years I'd expect a sequel to have a bit more polish on it.

If the game had not of looked better then I would have been very disappointed.

Modifié par voteDC, 02 mars 2010 - 03:28 .

[CmdrFenix83]

TJSolo wrote...

The armor in ME1 wasn't a guarantee and was level based. So saying you just tossed on the best you had could vary from Guardian or Predator.
Equipping the best that you have is still what you do in ME2. Just that with the N7 parts you stack bonuses. If you wear gear in ME2 just for aesthetics then one could equally say people picked what they wanted in ME1 for aesthetics.

Also once you get the weapon that best performs for you in ME2, people stick with it.
It is just easier and faster to get the best weapons in ME2 since there is such a low number of them.

Actually, with Pinnacle Station and BDtS, Collosus was guaranteed as long as you were ~ level 40 when you went.  Until then, no, it wasn't garanteed, but there wasn't any strategy in what armor you wore.  You just looted thousands of crap items, occasionally putting on one that had a bit more armor.

In ME2, the is no 'best' armor you can wear.  Choice matters here.  Some armor gives more damage, more power damage, or more health or shields.  You can choose to prioritize damage, defenses, or a mix of both.  No armor helped boost your damage in ME1.

There is no 'best weapons' for ME2(SMG's aside).  Every weapon class has its' plusses and minuses.  I personally think the Viper is a piece of crap, and prefer the Mantis for my sniping.  As a soldier, I prefer the Avenger to the Vindicator, while on any other class that I would take the AR training with, the Vindicator is better for my style.  Each weapon has its' uses, and every person will have their own list of weapons that they'd think of as the 'best'. 

In both cases, customization is more in-depth than it was in the first game.  There's more to it than the damage or damage protection stats.

ME is not a real time tactical shooter. Hence the Power Wheel, equally accessible in ME1 and 2.

In ME1, the Power Wheel was a necessary evil as abilities had long, individual cooldowns.  Very few abilities could be used often enough to make binding them matter.  You ended up pausing anyway(for the 360 at least). 

In ME2, the Power Wheel is unnecessary for the most part.  You can bind three abilities to controller buttons as well as two ally abilities.  You almost never have to bring up the wheel in combat.  You can see the global cooldown for each character right in the HUD, no need to pause. 

In fact, I just cleared the game(for the 9th time) on my femShep Sentinel.  The only time I needed the wheel were to activate my ammo powers(mine and allies') or to swap the bind from overload to throw or vice versa depending on the mission.  I can play the game entirely in real-time, even on one of the classes that would be considered a 'caster'.  I cannot say the same for ME1.

[CmdrFenix83]

Permutation wrote...

"Using the best armor you can find" is a lot better than using the same armor throughout the entire game, which is what players do in ME2 if you exclude DLC and exclusive armor. The weapons didn't behave exactly the same in ME1, and no, Chemical VII was not the best overall ammo in the game. Go back and play ME1. Idiots like you screwed up this series. Better yet, go play MW2 or Gears, and leave RPG's to the people that appreciate RPG's and would rather every game not be an FPS or TPS. F***in' bastage.

You don't use the same armor throughout the game.  The only piece I don't end up changing by the end is the legs, simply because I find the shield boost the most useful(shoulders as well on a few classes).  I played through ME1 15 times, thank you very much, and am currently doing so again for another character to take into ME2. 

Every single weapon of the same class functions identical to every other in ME1.  Every single Assault Rifle is full-auto but with different damage stats.  Some were more accurate, some less.  It was largely irrelevant.  Toss on the highest damage AR you can find, slap in two scram rails and Chem rounds, and burst your way to victory without problems.  I've done it *many* times.  Chem VII was also +55% damage and a dot that prevented regen.  Nothing else gave that big of a boost.

I also love your estimation of my gaming history.  Mass Effect is a hybrid of Shooter and RPG.  Get over it.  Yes, I have all three Halo games.  I also have Diablo2, KotOR 1 and 2, Neverwinter 1 and 2, most of the FF series, Lost Odyssey, Star Ocean, the list goes on.  There's no rule out there that one cannot enjoy multiple genre of games.  ME2 dumped everything that didn't work well in ME1, and is critically acclaimed far more than its' predecessor.  Don't like the direction they took the series?  Too bad.  Especially since ME3 will almost definitely be more like ME2 than ME1.

Edit:  And for the record, Gears was boring.

Modifié par CmdrFenix83, 02 mars 2010 - 04:02 .

[DracoFulcrum]

cruc1al wrote...

DracoFulcrum wrote...

Crepes are good, but only if you fill them with sweet stuff.

Yeah, the best combination is strawberry jam and whipped cream. Finger-lickin' goood.

Butter with sugar purred accross it, childhood fav.

[sirandar]

Mmmmmmmmmmm Belgian Waffles

[TJSolo]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

Actually, with Pinnacle Station and BDtS, Collosus was guaranteed as long as you were ~ level 40 when you went.  Until then, no, it wasn't garanteed, but there wasn't any strategy in what armor you wore.  You just looted thousands of crap items, occasionally putting on one that had a bit more armor.

In ME2, the is no 'best' armor you can wear.  Choice matters here.  Some armor gives more damage, more power damage, or more health or shields.  You can choose to prioritize damage, defenses, or a mix of both.  No armor helped boost your damage in ME1.

There is no 'best weapons' for ME2(SMG's aside).  Every weapon class has its' plusses and minuses.  I personally think the Viper is a piece of crap, and prefer the Mantis for my sniping.  As a soldier, I prefer the Avenger to the Vindicator, while on any other class that I would take the AR training with, the Vindicator is better for my style.  Each weapon has its' uses, and every person will have their own list of weapons that they'd think of as the 'best'. 

In both cases, customization is more in-depth than it was in the first game.  There's more to it than the damage or damage protection stats.

Level 40 is still mid-game and you need the BDtS to automatically have the Col gear for purchase. It still is not how a new game starts or how ME1 normally plays sans DLC.
Once you decide what you want to stack for in ME2 then you use the N7 parts that contribute to the stack.
The process of stacking is using what is "best" for the value you want to stack for. 
Stacking for what you want your armor to do is most similar to armor mods., which you could mix although all played a part in defense.
I find my Shepards conforming to the same N7 stack faster in ME2 then my Shepards conforming to ColX gear.
The amount of choice inbetween the conformation to my "best" setup is the variety.

In ME1, the Power Wheel was a necessary evil as abilities had long, individual cooldowns.  Very few abilities could be used often enough to make binding them matter.  You ended up pausing anyway(for the 360 at least). 

In ME2, the Power Wheel is unnecessary for the most part.  You can bind three abilities to controller buttons as well as two ally abilities.  You almost never have to bring up the wheel in combat.  You can see the global cooldown for each character right in the HUD, no need to pause. 

In fact, I just cleared the game(for the 9th time) on my femShep Sentinel.  The only time I needed the wheel were to activate my ammo powers(mine and allies') or to swap the bind from overload to throw or vice versa depending on the mission.  I can play the game entirely in real-time, even on one of the classes that would be considered a 'caster'.  I cannot say the same for ME1.

I use the Power Wheel less in ME2. It is still brought up when I fight since I prefer pressing A for squad power usage than using the directional pad, so there isn't a GoTo command issued. Also to bring up the map.
I use it less for my powers but an increasing amount for squad powers.
It is a tactical time out that doesn't just pause play but allows for a complete assessment of each fight.
The way it functions makes ME2 not a real time shooter, if one uses it.

[voteDC]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...


Actually, with Pinnacle Station and BDtS, Collosus was guaranteed as long as you were ~ level 40 when you went.  Until then, no, it wasn't garanteed, but there wasn't any strategy in what armor you wore.  You just looted thousands of crap items, occasionally putting on one that had a bit more armor.

In ME2, the is no 'best' armor you can wear.  Choice matters here.  Some armor gives more damage, more power damage, or more health or shields.  You can choose to prioritize damage, defenses, or a mix of both.  No armor helped boost your damage in ME1.

There is no 'best weapons' for ME2(SMG's aside).  Every weapon class has its' plusses and minuses.  I personally think the Viper is a piece of crap, and prefer the Mantis for my sniping.  As a soldier, I prefer the Avenger to the Vindicator, while on any other class that I would take the AR training with, the Vindicator is better for my style.  Each weapon has its' uses, and every person will have their own list of weapons that they'd think of as the 'best'. 

In both cases, customization is more in-depth than it was in the first game.  There's more to it than the damage or damage protection stats.

Choices matter nothing for armour. I've played through without changing the default N7 armour and I found it to be no different than the the play where I was mixing and matching every piece I could.

This is part of what I missed from the first game. Colossus may just have been a colour change from Explorer but the stats were hugely different, and more importantly FELT different in game.

CmdrFenix83 wrote...In ME1, the Power Wheel was a necessary evil as abilities had long, individual cooldowns.  Very few abilities could be used often enough to make binding them matter.  You ended up pausing anyway(for the 360 at least). 

In ME2, the Power Wheel is unnecessary for the most part.  You can bind three abilities to controller buttons as well as two ally abilities.  You almost never have to bring up the wheel in combat.  You can see the global cooldown for each character right in the HUD, no need to pause. 

In fact, I just cleared the game(for the 9th time) on my femShep Sentinel.  The only time I needed the wheel were to activate my ammo powers(mine and allies') or to swap the bind from overload to throw or vice versa depending on the mission.  I can play the game entirely in real-time, even on one of the classes that would be considered a 'caster'.  I cannot say the same for ME1.

I play as an Adept and you need to access the power wheel all the time. You can't rely on the few you can map to buttons, when the strength of your character is your multiple abilities then you need to access them constantly.

Yes the cool-down was longer is the first game but I could use throw on one person and then straight away use lift on another. Something I sorely miss when getting bum rushed by Husks.

Modifié par voteDC, 02 mars 2010 - 04:17 .