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[jtav]

I've heard several people say that the ME2 romances were created solely or mostly as temptation for players to "cheat" on their ME partner and that these relationships were never intended to be lasting or receive the closure that an ME romance will. I go back and forth on this one. On the one hand, I think Bioware knows better than to antagonize the player base by having one set of LIs be preferable to another. On the other hand, your ME LI is guarenteed to be still breathing, and the devs may not want to spend the same resources on characters who may be dead.

So, how are we supposed to feel about our romance options as we wait for ME3?

[iNixiRir]

iNixiRir wrote...



The only reason the LI from ME1 wasn't a squadmember in ME2 is because Bioware wants the give all the LI from 1 and 2 a more important/expanded role in ME3. And they couldn't do this if the LI from 1 was a squadmember in 2. If they were, those romances would get more dept in ME2, and then ME3 has a lot of different LI factors to consider. Like: LI continued from first(with more dept), new LI from 2(without more dept), LI from ME1 romanced in ME2(without dept). So they put those LI a little bit in the dark - so they couldn't advance to the next level. This way every LI has the same amount of history with Shepard - so that they could all have the same important role in ME3.



Hmm, maybe it's a bit unclear. But what I'm trying to say is: I believe every LI will be a squadmember in ME3

As for Tali and Garrus: They were put in because a lot of fans asked for it, and because Bioware couldn't get away with reducing every old squadmember to a cameo - so they added the two that couldn't die and weren't a LI. I would put those two in the same camp as Miranda/Thane/Jack/Jacob.

[DarthCaine]

IMO the ME1 LIs were flings, while the ME2 were obviously love (at least in Jack's case)

Modifié par DarthCaine, 02 mars 2010 - 12:19 .

[JamieCOTC]

Hate to say it, but I don't think there is a single character in ME2 that is long term material. 

[The Angry One]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Hate to say it, but I don't think there is a single character in ME2 that is long term material. 

Pretty much.
2 are on the rebound, 2 have expiry dates and 2 are long term friends (the word awkward comes to mind)

[jlb524]

The ME2 romances were non-existent in my games.

[Alamar2078]

I get the feeling that the ME1 LIs are supposed to be the permanent ones because of the mention of "cheating" so much. However I think that now that they've let the cat out of the bag that each of the LIs should be given roughly equal weight in terms of wrapping up the trilogy.

Modifié par Alamar2078, 02 mars 2010 - 12:29 .

[Nastrod]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Hate to say it, but I don't think there is a single character in ME2 that is long term material. 

They can and also will be just as long term as the ME1 ones heck even more since they will span 2 connected games. Unless you you consider Liara's quick kiss then sent off to to become a hacking errand boy a long term material and Ash was just as bad.

[The Angry One]

Nastrod wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Hate to say it, but I don't think there is a single character in ME2 that is long term material. 

They can and also will be just as long term as the ME1 ones heck even more since they will span 2 connected games. Unless you you consider Liara's quick kiss then sent off to to become a hacking errand boy a long term material and Ash was just as bad.

I like how you assume they'll be significant in ME3 at all.

[Nastrod]

Shavon wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

IMO the ME1 LIs were flings, while the ME2 were obviously love (at least in Jack's case)

idk, depends on how you view it:
Imo, true love:  kaidan/ash/garrus/thane/tali
flings:  kelly
the rest it's hopw you rp shepard

How the heck is the ME1 true love and the ME2 ones not? Did you play ME2 because those ME1 LIs did not seem to much in love to me.

[Nastrod]

The Angry One wrote...

Nastrod wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Hate to say it, but I don't think there is a single character in ME2 that is long term material. 

They can and also will be just as long term as the ME1 ones heck even more since they will span 2 connected games. Unless you you consider Liara's quick kiss then sent off to to become a hacking errand boy a long term material and Ash was just as bad.

I like how you assume they'll be significant in ME3 at all.

Well if they are not then the ME2 ones will have mattered as much as the ME1 LIs have which is not much at all besides for one game.

Modifié par Nastrod, 02 mars 2010 - 12:32 .

[marshalleck]

jtav wrote...

 On the other hand, your ME LI is guarenteed to be still breathing,

Impossible. What ME LI? I didn't romance anyone from ME1.

So according to forum logic, ME1 LIs can't have an important, pivotal role in ME3. At least not in any romantic capacity.

Modifié par marshalleck, 02 mars 2010 - 12:33 .

[SandTrout]

I'd say most of the LIs were legitimate emotional ties for my sheps, with the exceptions being Garrus, Miranda, and Jacob. They just didn't strike me as even looking for anything long term, just someone to blow off steam with.

Of course, Thane is terminal, Jack has more issues than playboy, Tali comes off as having a crush, Ashley/Kaiden tells you to f-off on Horizon, and Liara left you to hunt down a person that captured/killed her personal licking toad.

So, IMO, you have to choose which character your shepherd considers worth the effort.

[The Angry One]

Nastrod wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Nastrod wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Hate to say it, but I don't think there is a single character in ME2 that is long term material. 

They can and also will be just as long term as the ME1 ones heck even more since they will span 2 connected games. Unless you you consider Liara's quick kiss then sent off to to become a hacking errand boy a long term material and Ash was just as bad.

I like how you assume they'll be significant in ME3 at all.

Well if they are not then they will have matetred as much as the ME1 LIs have which is not much at all besides for one games.

The point is you're making comparisons assuming that they will be fleshed out in ME3 and the ME1 LIs will not.

[Madecologist]

Some people did not romance in ME1 or went EMO and blew them up on Vimire. Meaning they don't have a ME1 love interest in wait. Also Tali was initially ment as a LI in ME1 but was cut due to her being "too young maybe" and "she has chicken legs." Sure it was Tali fans that made the outcry they still wanted her as a LI. But it is not like this was a decision from the blue either. So how significant is the ME2 romances? *shrugs* we will only know in ME3.

Edit - Though I heard they are considering to give popular ME2 LI a fair treatment, and that the ME1 LI are suppose to come back for the third act in ME3.

Modifié par Madecologist, 02 mars 2010 - 12:37 .

[Nastrod]

The Angry One wrote...

Nastrod wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Nastrod wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Hate to say it, but I don't think there is a single character in ME2 that is long term material. 

They can and also will be just as long term as the ME1 ones heck even more since they will span 2 connected games. Unless you you consider Liara's quick kiss then sent off to to become a hacking errand boy a long term material and Ash was just as bad.

I like how you assume they'll be significant in ME3 at all.

Well if they are not then they will have matetred as much as the ME1 LIs have which is not much at all besides for one games.

The point is you're making comparisons assuming that they will be fleshed out in ME3 and the ME1 LIs will not.

My point was that the first person said not a single person inME2 is "long term material" and that makes no sense since the ME1 did not matter at all in ME2. If BW carries over the LIs from the games at least you get to play 2 games in a row with the ME2 ones which would be more long term then off again on again with the ME1 ones.

Modifié par Nastrod, 02 mars 2010 - 12:36 .

[Shadowrun1177]

I would hate to think that my ME2 LI was nothing but a fling. I mean two years passed between ME and ME2, it seems to my like Ash/Kaidan and even Liara all seem to have moved on. Ash/Kaidan both say they moved on but there you are and they are not sure what to think about your return. Liara is the only one who seems at least to have had a hard time letting go at first I mean she gives you to Cerberus, but even then when you show up she seems cold except for a single kiss when you first see her. The way I've played my 2 male Shepard's is that two years have passed and its time to move on, to Tali, and Miranda. Though my 3 female Shepard's one went to Thane and the other remained loyal to Liara and Kaidan. Like Shavon said the only fling I consider is Kelly, cause she doesn't count as real LI.

[KnotEngaged]

It's almost impossible to argue objectively for or against the idea of the LIs being flings or not because most people are too invested in one of the relationships they formed to be able to look at it with a clear head.

It is a well documented fact that Tali and Garrus have fanatical fan bases that are absolutely sure that their romances were far more than a fling. The same can be said for the Kaidan and Liara fanatics, they didn't pursue ME2 LIs because they were so sure that their choice was their "true love". Everyone is so sure that the LI they chose is their shep's true love that they can't look at it with a clear head.

There is no way to tell until ME3 comes out and the fate of the LIs is decided. I can say for sure it would be lame on BioWare's part to decide that some of the LI are truly serious relationships while others are just flings. That is basically punishing players for not choosing the "correct" LI, even if the player despises that "correct" character.

[jtav]

That is basically punishing players for not choosing the "correct" LI, even if the player despises that "correct" character.

And this is my big fear. There's so much talk about "cheating" that I worry were never supposed to get attached to the ME2 romances.

[Castanea]

jtav wrote...

That is basically punishing players for not choosing the "correct" LI, even if the player despises that "correct" character.

And this is my big fear. There's so much talk about "cheating" that I worry were never supposed to get attached to the ME2 romances.

I'm sure that's not the case anymore. Considering the amount of LIs in ME2, and how the fandom behind them is either equal or greater then that of ME1's LIs I doubt that they would simply throw aside the ME2 Lis...
-knocks on wood <_<-

[SmokePants]

The real question is: where will the ME3 love interests fit? Don't delude yourselves into thinking there won't be a new slate of trim/beef in the next installment. Everything is a fling.