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ME2 romances: flings or legitimate choice?


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As I've said before, this is totally up to the player. If you want to play it as a 'fling' you can. If you want 'happily ever after' then you can get that. None of the LIs are going to dump Shepard at the end of ME3 and say: 'This was just a fling and I don't want anything serious.' They're all serious (even though they express this in different ways) and the only question that remains is Shepard's seriousness.

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The romance with Thane is far far far away from being a fling. Just look at the emotions in it. Both FemShep and Thane express their emotions very deeply towards each other.



Only Kelly is a fling and I always stay away from her....>.>

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jlb524 wrote...

As I've said before, this is totally up to the player. If you want to play it as a 'fling' you can. If you want 'happily ever after' then you can get that. None of the LIs are going to dump Shepard at the end of ME3 and say: 'This was just a fling and I don't want anything serious.' They're all serious (even though they express this in different ways) and the only question that remains is Shepard's seriousness.

True...but the way they play out in the game has that fling feel even if they are supposed to be legitimate long term relationships.  The constraints of the game don't really allow for in depth romance.  That is why I kind of would like the romance aspect to start earlier in the game and have greater affects throughout it....ie with the crew, and the characters themselves, and actually make a difference as the story progresses.  Instead...it is like...let's flirt.....do some missions....have sex....do the final mission....the end.

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Tali's romance is the farthest from a Fling in my opinion. She admits that she cares for you deeply even after you died and how she watched you thru everything. Shep also says he will wait on her and be patient with the issue regarding her immune system.

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I just hope bioware does something special for every LI to satisfy the fans of each character.

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Casey Hudson said in some video that players will be tempted by other possible LI's in ME2, even if they had a LI in ME1. He did not say that the LI's in ME2 soley exist to tempt you to cheat on your ME1 LI.

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Darht Jayder wrote...
Miranda:  "Look at me all poor and sad because my father created me to be perfect.  Poor me I wish I people would see past my perfection"
Shepard:  "Can't I admire your perfect body?"
Miranda: "Hell yeah, I don't mind.....Let's get it on"

BOWCHICHAWOWOW


Not sure what you are babbling about but that didn't resemble the Miranda romance at all.

Nice story though.  Write a fantasy about ponies and bears next.

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Valmy wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...
Miranda:  "Look at me all poor and sad because my father created me to be perfect.  Poor me I wish I people would see past my perfection"
Shepard:  "Can't I admire your perfect body?"
Miranda: "Hell yeah, I don't mind.....Let's get it on"

BOWCHICHAWOWOW


Not sure what you are babbling about but that didn't resemble the Miranda romance at all.

Nice story though.  Write a fantasy about ponies and bears next.

No it pretty much did resemble that.  Ponies and bears.....interesting.  I'll consider it.Image IPB

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Darht Jayder wrote...

True...but the way they play out in the game has that fling feel even if they are supposed to be legitimate long term relationships.  The constraints of the game don't really allow for in depth romance. 


Right, it's just how all ME crew relationships are structured.  They seem too brief, expecially when comparing them to DA:O relationships.  It's not BW's intention to make any of these relationships 'flings' but it feels like that to some people due to limited dialog content and relationship development.

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 Since I'm a female gamer all I've played through ME1 & ME2 have been female characters, so I can't comment on how the female Interests interact with male Shepard. But in ME1, Kaiden seemed like it could have been pretty deep and more then "we're about to die so let's take a quick roll". Liara just seemed too much like a science project and really felt no connection with her to pursue a romance.

 In ME2, I wasn't impressed that much with the Jacob character as an Interest. Kaiden and he are both soldier boys but Kaiden just had more depth to his character. Garrus is quite interesting though, not sure it's "love" but it's deeper then just a fling. Him and Shepard trust eachother and both have been through seriously bad situations and now they know they are probably going to die. Even if it's not true love I can see the emotional satisfaction of spending one last night with a person you have strong connections with. And given their relationship I see no awkwardness afterwards whether it was just one night or grounds to pursue something more.

 Thane seems quite interesting as well, I plan on going through another game to see how the relationship plays out. 

 I also need to go back and beat ME1 so I can see the differences in interactions with Kaiden, if there is any. Though I must say, the meeting on the colony with him made me want to beat the boy down. Kaiden got whiney in the two years Shepard was dead...

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I said the heck with them all in me 2 . Kelly and I enjoy our downtime greatly 8)


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At least kelly damces for me


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bumbledbeez79 wrote...

 Kaiden got whiney in the two years Shepard was dead...

Umm....Kaiden was always whiny.

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At least kelly dances for me


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We really have to stop comparing ME2 characters to those in DA:O. Two entirely different teams made these people.

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Sialater wrote...

We really have to stop comparing ME2 characters to those in DA:O. Two entirely different teams made these people.

Wrong thread I think

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Rockmonkey55 wrote...

At least kelly dances for me


Kelly is the best choice, of course. 

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IMO the ME1 LIs were flings, while the ME2 were obviously love (at least in Jack's case)


Yick.

My opinion is that, except for Miranda (and Jacob's I did not see), the LIs are legitimate if Shepard did not romance someone in ME1. 

I have to add, even if it unhinges my first declaration, that Tali's romance story is always legitimate because of how well it was written.:wub:

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So, how are we supposed to feel about our romance options as we wait for ME3?


I think it depends on the individual.

Personally, after the letter I received after Horizon, I broke up (at least mentally -- would have done it physically, if it were possible) with my ME1 LI. I mean, I've already died once. I don't have time to be sitting around waiting for my LI to get off their thumbs. I could die again tomorrow. Carpe diem, and all that.

Plus, my ME2 romance experience feels more 'right' for my Shepard than my ME1 romance.

Modifié par Llandaryn, 02 mars 2010 - 06:17 .


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Darht Jayder wrote...

Sialater wrote...

We really have to stop comparing ME2 characters to those in DA:O. Two entirely different teams made these people.

Wrong thread I think


Uh, no, a few in here have compared them.

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To me all the ME 2 LI were unappealing, really (out of my own and my FemShep's sight, haven't played as a male cuz she is canon for me) I never had a thing for aliens; Garrus is my best buddy, but there is no way seeing her kissing him. Thane is nice to talk with but way too phycho and Jacob is just goddamn awful as romance. I tried the Jacob one for the achievement cuz he was the only human LI... but only until my Shep started to talk like a frikkin sl*t (which was total OOCness). Avoided him like hell after that and save that achievement for my new male character and Tali.

To be honest I found the longingly staring at the Kaidan pic scene quite more appealing than all lovescenes. (Garrus was kinda sweet though, but so not my thing)

What does it say in Kaidan's email?

Oh yeah he talks about that ONE night...

So if it was just that ONE night then people could easily take the ME LI as a 'fling'.

Umm shortly after that one night and the saving of the citadel there happened that slight incident with the Collectors and Shepard getting spaced. They actually hadn't much time to celebrate their love, really. And Kaidan is saying "This night before Ilos meant everything to him...which is a huge difference. Hell, he needed two years to come at terms with her death and once he had made it somehow, she suddenly stood before him in full flesh at Horizon working for the enemy. No wonder he freaked out. So was what he had said on Horizon stupid? Yes...but understandable. Does this one thing made him a fling? No. Easy as.

Rest depends on how you play your Shep.

Still I love how people tend to misunderstand Kaidan's feelings and motives. It's the same thing like with Alistair (Oh NOES he goz ragin rampage at Landsmeet when am choozin 2 betray him o,O ??? WRRRRY? Whuz iz wrong wit that?:blink: He iz such a Whin3r !!! *facepalm*)

Anyway, for now it's only stated that the ME1 LI will 100% return (source) but they should give for those who had initiated a ME2 LI the chance too. To each their own, I guess. My Shep however is happy with her "remaining faithful to Kaidan"- choice because she knows he is worth it in the end. :wub:

Unless BW gives us the all dramatic ending like its done in DA, of course.Call me sappy but I want a happy end after saving the galaxy frikkin THREE times.


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Sialater wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

Sialater wrote...

We really have to stop comparing ME2 characters to those in DA:O. Two entirely different teams made these people.

Wrong thread I think


Uh, no, a few in here have compared them.

okay...well the latest one was not comparing the characters so mauch as the romance mechanics and constraints of the two games.  Maybe apples to oranges but since they are both rpg's made by the same company....there is an argument there I guess.

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Thane's romance is hardly a fling, by the end of it there is no question about how in love with Shepard he is.  As
for my main Shepard, she didn't romance anyone in ME1 so I did not 'cheat' on anyone when I romanced Thane.  I'd consider that a very legitimate choice.

I'm in the middle of the Garrus romance with my engineer (who also didn't romance anyone in ME1) and from what I've experienced so far and read on the forums, I don't see that as a fling either.

Jack, Miranda, and Tali's romances also do not seem to be just flings from what I've watched / read.  I can't speak from personal experience as I've not gone through the romances.

And no, the ME2 LIs were not solely put in to make people 'cheat', as Jackal said, the quote was that they would sorely tempt people to do so because of how much more interesting and engaging they are when compared to the ME1 LIs.

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I brought up DA:O to explain why some may feel that the ME LIs were flings. The games have 2 different squad mate interaction mechanics and those that played DA:O may expect the same depth from ME. I never compared specific characters from these games, however.

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I brought up DA:O to explain why some may feel that the ME LIs were flings. The games have 2 different squad mate interaction mechanics and those that played DA:O may expect the same depth from ME. I never compared specific characters from these games, however.

Exactly.