kelly? well.. now that you mention it she does look like a russian spy. LOL
Who is going to be Yoshimo?
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#27
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 10:19
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PooPoomonster wrote...
Make note if you have played Never Winter Nights or any of the Baldurs Gate series(actually only 1 of the games) or Knights of the Old Republic bioware has a history of having the female leads betray you in addition to a bizzare antique technology fetish.
Aribeth...Seriously... someday I'll be able to gut Lord Nasher proper like.
#28
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 10:22
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Mordin just needs to remove the Collector Tech and she'll be fine... right guys?
#29
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 10:23
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Nobody from ME2, that's for sure. Why do you think you did those loyalty mission?
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 10:27
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Shepard is the traitor.
It's always the last one you suspect.
It's always the last one you suspect.
#32
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 11:32
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Admiral Hackett or Councillor/Admiral Anderson
#33
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 11:59
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BobbyTheI wrote...
Shepard is the traitor.
It's always the last one you suspect.
"No, Shepard. You are the reapers"
#34
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 12:16
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Hmm... I was always thinking that Kasumi will be the 12th squadmate, and with Shepard there are 13....
That must mean something.
That must mean something.
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 12:35
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Computron2000 wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
I see it's time for this pic again:
Joker: Kelly i thought you loved me!
Kelly: Sorry joker, i was just collecting your umm genetic material for my masters. Now we will clone a hundred of you!
Yeah, I can see the Collectors now...with an army of cloned Jokers with brittle bones. Some geneticists...ooo, scary!
As far as traitors go, I bet it's our space hampster or maybe...just maybe it will actually be Yoshimo himself! Bioware should put in an ensign Yoshimo just to throw us all off.
The real traitor is likely going to be Liara, she's way too suspicious. I hate what the writers did to her character, not that I was a huge fan in the first game. But she's really sketchy now.
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:03
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"And then Shepard was a Husk."Jlop985 wrote...
BobbyTheI wrote...
Shepard is the traitor.
It's always the last one you suspect.
"No, Shepard. You are the reapers"
#37
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:09
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Jlop985 wrote...
BobbyTheI wrote...
Shepard is the traitor.
It's always the last one you suspect.
"NO, SHEPARD. I'M YOUR FATHER"
Fixed.
#38
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:14
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Liara, otherwise the total personality change from ME1 Miss Vulnerability to ME2 Miss Ruthless makes even less sense.
Although Zaeed is probably loyal to whoever pays him the most, so it could be him.
Although Zaeed is probably loyal to whoever pays him the most, so it could be him.
#39
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:25
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That's true. Aribeth, Bastila, Neeshka (possibly). Haven't played BG. In this case, though, I can't really see them betraying us to the Reapers. What's to gain? That's assuming, of course, that the Reapers are what they seem to be.PooPoomonster wrote...
Make note if you have played Never Winter Nights or any of the Baldurs Gate series(actually only 1 of the games) or Knights of the Old Republic bioware has a history of having the female leads betray you in addition to a bizzare antique technology fetish.
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:25
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Depending on your choices: Tali or Legion
I doubt Liara would betray Shepard. She is the only character who couldn't let Shepard go (LI or not)
I doubt Liara would betray Shepard. She is the only character who couldn't let Shepard go (LI or not)
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:32
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Yea, Liara betraying Shepard makes 0 sense. She was the one who saved Shepard in the first place.
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:34
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varel1 wrote...
Liara, otherwise the total personality change from ME1 Miss Vulnerability to ME2 Miss Ruthless makes even less sense.
Although Zaeed is probably loyal to whoever pays him the most, so it could be him.
Naw, Zaeed rawks. It's clear from his conversations after missions and such that by the time ME2 is over, he sees the big picture. the only reason he will walk away is because he is DLC
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:34
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Barquiel wrote...
Depending on your choices: Tali or Legion
I doubt Liara would betray Shepard. She is the only character who couldn't let Shepard go (LI or not)
I would still like the chance to get her killed.
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:39
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Basically true of most squad mates, then.Barquiel wrote...
Depending on your choices: Tali or Legion
Thane, Garrus, Mordin, and Samara have killed people they have disapproved of before. They are all experienced at doing it.
Zaeed could be hired to kill Shepard.
Jacob/Miranda could turn on Shepard if he does something against Cerberus or humanity.
Ashley/Kaidan could turn on Shepard if he does something against the Alliance or humanity.
Grunt could turn on Shepard if Shepard didn't help him out or if Shepard does something against the Krogan.
Jack could turn on Shepard if Shepard treats her like ****
#45
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:42
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Collider wrote...
Basically true of most squad mates, then.Barquiel wrote...
Depending on your choices: Tali or Legion
Thane, Garrus, Mordin, and Samara have killed people they have disapproved of before. They are all experienced at doing it.
Zaeed could be hired to kill Shepard.
Jacob/Miranda could turn on Shepard if he does something against Cerberus or humanity.
Ashley/Kaidan could turn on Shepard if he does something against the Alliance or humanity.
Grunt could turn on Shepard if Shepard didn't help him out or if Shepard does something against the Krogan.
Jack could turn on Shepard if Shepard treats her like ****
If they do add someone cracking and or/backstabbing you they should randomize it to really **** with you
#46
Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:45
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Collider wrote...
Yea, Liara betraying Shepard makes 0 sense. She was the one who saved Shepard in the first place.
Yes, that was good vulnerable ME1 Liara who saved Shepherd. Events during and after that turned her into a ruthless "hardened" ME2 Liara, who is driven, possibly obsessed, with thoughts of vengeance.
It is a theme Bioware has used before, that the "good" can be turrned to "evil" by being consumed with thoughts of revenge, e.g. Aribeth.
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 01:52
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I think Miranda would be the most obvious. Through the whole thing, she just is getting on everyone's case, and she works exclusively for the illusive man. She'll do what she needs done.
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 02:04
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Miranda would be a good choice if they go this route. She would do anything for Oriana. All TIM has to do is remind her that Dad can find her any time he wants since Cerberus has no reason to protect a former agent's family. As long as we can redeem her a la Bastila, it works for me. Liara is more likely to go ballistic if you interfere with her plans for vengance than betray you. I can see either lady as a potential antagonist.
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 02:27
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jtav wrote...
Miranda would be a good choice if they go this route. She would do anything for Oriana. All TIM has to do is remind her that Dad can find her any time he wants since Cerberus has no reason to protect a former agent's family. As long as we can redeem her a la Bastila, it works for me. Liara is more likely to go ballistic if you interfere with her plans for vengance than betray you. I can see either lady as a potential antagonist.
There is a possibility that Miranda is dead after ME2 while Liara cannot be killed during ME. With Liara Bioware can basically do whatever they wish because it is certain that she is still alive in ME3 if Bioware sees that fit. My guess is that if Miranda is alive in ME3 then there will be another mission to save Oriana from Cerberus. If you fail to do this mission then Miranda will backstab you. Liara may well backstab you as well but there must be a good reason for that. Anyway, I assume that there could be more than one backstabbing on you in ME3.
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Posté 02 mars 2010 - 02:51
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Alright, I've really racked my brain and I can't seem to remember the Yoshimo betrayal, and I've actually finished the game (though just once admittedly). Does it depend on whether he's in your party at the time? Because I basically dropped him in favour of an extra spellcaster the first chance I got. Or maybe it happened and I just have a terrible memory. I don't know.
As for who will be this game's "Yoshimo", PooPoomonster does make a compelling argument about Bioware's history with getting female leads to betray you. So Liara would probably be the best candidate. Though, once again, if their past history is any indication, you'll have a chance to win the traitor back if you play your cards right (I failed miserably with Aribeth and just barely got through to Bastila myself).
As for who will be this game's "Yoshimo", PooPoomonster does make a compelling argument about Bioware's history with getting female leads to betray you. So Liara would probably be the best candidate. Though, once again, if their past history is any indication, you'll have a chance to win the traitor back if you play your cards right (I failed miserably with Aribeth and just barely got through to Bastila myself).
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