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Comrade Bork

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I play a paragon MaleShep, and I am nothing but nice to Jack. Every single time she asks if it is about sex/love, I ALWAYS say I am not interested. When I get to the final conversation though, she keeps telling me I have to choose between her and Miranda. I made my intentions clear, but she doesn't get it. Does anyone else have this issue, or find it to be a little off?

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Well... she did always pretty much throw herself at me, despite not being even remotely interested in her (hell, I kill her off mostly)... But I mostly accidentally went for the complete paragon choices when she asked...



Nowadays I just don't talk to her besides her loyalty mission, which I don't always do either.

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Who knows. Haven't done a Jack Romance before, might have to do it this game.

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Unlike ME1 (this is one of my very few issues with ME2), you can't be "just friends" and chat with a potential LI. I guess they only wanted to record so many lines. Beyond a certain point, females can't even talk to her. Beyond that same point, talking to her as a male means you are pursuing her.

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Aisynia wrote...
Beyond that same point, talking to her as a male means you are pursuing her.

Pretty much. I ended the conversation with saying that I don't just want sex (I just wanted to talk, nothing romantic) and the camera made it like that I was being emotional and introspective and falling in love with her when I turned my back to her :/ Decided to reload and just not talk to her anymore.

I guess it might make sense in context of her character. Maybe she hasn't really had that many friends. In that Cerberus experiment facility I imagine that most kids hated eachother in addition to fighting each other anyway. Then she joined some gangs and cults which werent really her friends, and she got manipulated by that one couple for sex. So maybe for her character someone talking to her so much is probably asking for sex or a relationship, instead just a friendship.

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If your trying to maintain a relationship from ME1 this must be a bad situation having to choose between Miranda and Jack...presumably you have to choose one or...Is there an option to choose neither?

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UKJackMan wrote...

If your trying to maintain a relationship from ME1 this must be a bad situation having to choose between Miranda and Jack...presumably you have to choose one or...Is there an option to choose neither?

Not talking to anyone.

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Well on one of my playthroughs I am having my male Shep stay faithful to Ashley (he is essentially full Paragon btw), and if you turn Jack down without already having a potential LI on board the Normandy at the time, she won't say anything more than "**** off," if you try to speak with her.

UKJackMan wrote...

If your trying to maintain a relationship from ME1 this must be a bad situation having to choose between Miranda and Jack...presumably you have to choose one or...Is there an option to choose neither?


Just turn them both down when they ask you about it. When they fight, choose the Para/gade option to settle the dispute without losing loyalty. You can choose neither. The conversation options are a bit confusing to say the least.


To answer OPs question: If you were "nice" to Jack (no sex, etc.) but have started a relationship with Miranda, for some reason Jack will not want anything more to do with you unless you choose her. I don't understand it either really.

Modifié par sonsonthebia07, 02 mars 2010 - 02:03 .


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Michoss wrote...

Not talking to anyone.


This is the obvious thing to do ...but what if you find yourself in this situation through being curious...still...Is their an option not to choose neither?

Modifié par UKJackMan, 02 mars 2010 - 02:08 .


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sonsonthebia07 wrote...

Well on one of my playthroughs I am having my male Shep stay faithful to Ashley (he is essentially full Paragon btw), and if you turn Jack down without already having a potential LI on board the Normandy at the time, she won't say anything more than "**** off," if you try to speak with her.

UKJackMan wrote...

If your trying to maintain a relationship from ME1 this must be a bad situation having to choose between Miranda and Jack...presumably you have to choose one or...Is there an option to choose neither?


Just turn them both down when they ask you about it. When they fight, choose the Para/gade option to settle the dispute without losing loyalty. You can choose neither. The conversation options are a bit confusing to say the least.


Thank you....

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If she is saying you have to choose her or miranda, that means you already have something started with miranda and that to fully romance jack, you must call it off with miranda.

Or so I think.

Modifié par ITQuatro, 02 mars 2010 - 02:04 .


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ITQuatro wrote...

If she is saying you have to choose her or miranda, that means you already have something started with miranda and that to fully romance jack, you must call it off with miranda.

Or so I think.


So you could end up with a relationship you don't really want and be considered a cheat by your ME1 love interest...:crying:

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Almost all relationships are forced upon you if it is a potential LI. You basically have to tell them to stop ogling and you're not interested. then they quit talking to you. Ashley and Kaidan still give dialogue after you dump one of them, but ME2 NPCs have little to nothing to say if you tell them the same. Its sad really....

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What about Kelly Chambers...is this seen as a relationship or a bit of fun...would it have any baring on other relationships...or is she just a little bit of fluff on the side...

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Michoss wrote...

UKJackMan wrote...

If your trying to maintain a relationship from ME1 this must be a bad situation having to choose between Miranda and Jack...presumably you have to choose one or...Is there an option to choose neither?

Not talking to anyone.


This is what I ended up doing.  Just wait till Kelly tells you they want to see you, get loyalty mission, get upgrade, done.  None of the LI's are as interesting as Mordin anyway. :P

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vigna wrote...

Almost all relationships are forced upon you if it is a potential LI. You basically have to tell them to stop ogling and you're not interested. then they quit talking to you. Ashley and Kaidan still give dialogue after you dump one of them, but ME2 NPCs have little to nothing to say if you tell them the same. Its sad really....


Its possible BW did it this way on purpose.  Makes it clear these aren't "friends" and "good buddies" the way the ME1 crew could be.  If you don't want to **** then GTFO.  At least that is how I took it. :blush:

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UKJackMan wrote...

What about Kelly Chambers...is this seen as a relationship or a bit of fun...would it have any baring on other relationships...or is she just a little bit of fluff on the side...


Bits of fluff.

She won't affect any of your LIs from ME1 (presumably) - inviting her up doesn't make the picture frame turn down.

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sonsonthebia07 wrote...

UKJackMan wrote...

What about Kelly Chambers...is this seen as a relationship or a bit of fun...would it have any baring on other relationships...or is she just a little bit of fluff on the side...


Bits of fluff.

She won't affect any of your LIs from ME1 (presumably) - inviting her up doesn't make the picture frame turn down.


Thats good to know I need someone to feed the fish now and then...

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She has by far the most important jobs on the entire ship. Feeding your fish and sexing you up.

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that's all I can get from her after telling she is out if she can't be normal -- *uck off!

Modifié par Kelmen Wong, 02 mars 2010 - 02:54 .


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All romances in this game are forced. It's the one area in the game I'm hoping they change for ME3.



Can you imagine a life where the only way to NOT have sex with someone of the opposite sex is simply not to talk to them? That's Shepard's world right there.



It's a little annoying there aren't more dialogue options for such a character driven storyline, and some of the dialogue wheel options when speaking to a member of the opposite gender are utterly misleading and it is actually quite easy to accidently romance a character.



I hope they add more platonic dialogue for your team in ME3 and maybe have romances only start by picking a certain dialogue as a 'trigger point' Maybe even make said trigger point green or something just so when we start an ME relationship it's because we wanted to, not because we wanted to learn more about the charcter.

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Every single one of them has a point where you can say "Not interested" it requires you to read and not simply go "Top Right is paragon response!"



Be Nice to Jack. Do her Loyalty mission. Talk to her.

Jack: Shepard. You got feelings for me?

(pick no)

Jack: (blah blah)

(pick: "No romance)

There, you are now not in a romance with Jack.


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Avissel wrote...

Every single one of them has a point where you can say "Not interested" it requires you to read and not simply go "Top Right is paragon response!"

Be Nice to Jack. Do her Loyalty mission. Talk to her.
Jack: Shepard. You got feelings for me?
(pick no)
Jack: (blah blah)
(pick: "No romance)
There, you are now not in a romance with Jack.


I had done this, I made sure she got the message. Even so, the only dialogue I can have with her is her telling me to choose between her and Miranda. I don't have this problem with Tali.

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You obviously didn't choose 'No romance'. Any of the other two choices keeps you on the romance path, even though the middle one also looks like a "no".

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UKJackMan wrote...

If your trying to maintain a relationship from ME1 this must be a bad situation having to choose between Miranda and Jack...presumably you have to choose one or...Is there an option to choose neither?

Yeah, just say no to the final dialogue section.