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[MarkyBoy147]

Will you be able to continue as your warden in Awakening, regardless of any choices you made in the epilogue? Do you have to strictly choose to stay with the warden to be able to continue or will returning to the Dalish, going after Morrigan or choosing to stay in Denerim make it impossible?

[Cuthlan]

Your choices in the epilogue don't actually count for anything other than dialog. The auto-save Epilogue file is created BEFORE the coronation ceremony and those choices.
Basically, you're staying with the Gray Wardens and heading to Amaranthine, no matter what other plans you had.

[blademaster7]

I don't think those choices will matter at all. Some endings just don't glue with Awakening. Traveling with Sten to the Qunari land to name one. How did you end up in Amaranthine if you chose that?

So I'm assuming they'll scrap all the endings, bar the "Rebuilding the Grey Wardens" one. Basically, that's the canon ending and the only one that matters for Awakening.

Modifié par blademaster7, 02 mars 2010 - 06:49 .

[Evolution33]

It is six monthes after the end of Origins. It could be you finished what you were doing or got called away due to the fact you are the most seasoned Grey Warden in Ferleden. I am sure they will explain why you are there and how you came to be there within the first 10 minutes of the game.

[blademaster7]

Evolution33 wrote...

It is six monthes after the end of Origins.

And how do you know that? They said several months... and yet everyone figured out that several=6

Am I missing something? Was it ever stated by Bioware that it is actually six months later? Because I keep asking and no one really knows lol.

[MarkyBoy147]

yeah i thought with the autosave being created before making any choices i would be ok. well i guess my wardens arent done yet then.

[Evolution33]

blademaster7 wrote...

Evolution33 wrote...

It is six monthes after the end of Origins.

And how do you know that? They said several months... and yet everyone figured out that several=6

Am I missing something? Was it ever stated by Bioware that it is actually six months later? Because I keep asking and no one really knows lol.

I think I read another poster saying it was six and that is why that number was in my mind. But several monthes or six monthes later I think you can justify any of the endings ending back in that area in that time. I can just see my grey warden and leliana almost to the border of Orlasi when a messanger chases us down to ruin what I thought was going to be a quite adventure. Or on the boat trip with Sten he has to stop in the Amarathine port for supplies only for someone to run down and tell you that you are needed and you send Sten on his way. It is hinted at twice with Wynne saying something to the mage in the mage Origin and some of the comments in Dust Town about how Jarvia took over the cartal a year ago when in that origin you kill her boss. So it is about a year from your recruitment until after the battle of Ostagar and it is assumed or was stated that the game takes anywhere between one and two years depending on how you play. So I am guessing several monthes is plenty of time for your Warden to start what they are doing and then be called back.

[1bloodyrogue]

Evolution33 wrote...

It is six monthes after the end of Origins. It could be you finished what you were doing or got called away due to the fact you are the most seasoned Grey Warden in Ferleden. I am sure they will explain why you are there and how you came to be there within the first 10 minutes of the game.

Most seasoned Grey Warden in Ferledan?  Hello Allistar?

[Evolution33]

1bloodyrogue wrote...

Evolution33 wrote...

It is six monthes after the end of Origins. It could be you finished what you were doing or got called away due to the fact you are the most seasoned Grey Warden in Ferleden. I am sure they will explain why you are there and how you came to be there within the first 10 minutes of the game.

Most seasoned Grey Warden in Ferledan?  Hello Allistar?

Alistiar is only a few monthes ahead of you in being in the grey wardens and gives all control over to you. I mean Todd Collins has been an NFL Quaterback for 15 seasons but would you call him more seasoned than Tom Brady?

[blademaster7]

Evolution33 wrote...
I think I read another poster saying it was six and that is why that number was in my mind. But several monthes or six monthes later I think you can justify any of the endings ending back in that area in that time. I can just see my grey warden and leliana almost to the border of Orlasi when a messanger chases us down to ruin what I thought was going to be a quite adventure. Or on the boat trip with Sten he has to stop in the Amarathine port for supplies only for someone to run down and tell you that you are needed and you send Sten on his way. It is hinted at twice with Wynne saying something to the mage in the mage Origin and some of the comments in Dust Town about how Jarvia took over the cartal a year ago when in that origin you kill her boss. So it is about a year from your recruitment until after the battle of Ostagar and it is assumed or was stated that the game takes anywhere between one and two years depending on how you play. So I am guessing several monthes is plenty of time for your Warden to start what they are doing and then be called back.

If they explain how you ended there I'm fine with it. Still, they need to explain where is Zevran/Leliana though, if they decided to help you build the GW.

Anyway, I only quoted the six months part because I was really curious to find ouy where it originated from. Everyone keeps saying it and yet no one knows where it came from...

[1bloodyrogue]

Evolution33 wrote...

1bloodyrogue wrote...

Evolution33 wrote...

It is six monthes after the end of Origins. It could be you finished what you were doing or got called away due to the fact you are the most seasoned Grey Warden in Ferleden. I am sure they will explain why you are there and how you came to be there within the first 10 minutes of the game.

Most seasoned Grey Warden in Ferledan?  Hello Allistar?

Alistiar is only a few monthes ahead of you in being in the grey wardens and gives all control over to you. I mean Todd Collins has been an NFL Quaterback for 15 seasons but would you call him more seasoned than Tom Brady?

I don't think it ever said he was only a few months ahead of you; I think you just came to that conclusion.  And I don't see that he gave control over to you I saw it as a team as they had no leader once Duncan died.  Sure you quaterbacked it at that point because hey your the main character not Allistar.  And your analogy is ludacris and hardly fits.

[SurelyForth]

1bloodyrogue wrote...

I don't think it ever said he was only a few months ahead of you; I think you just came to that conclusion.  And I don't see that he gave control over to you I saw it as a team as they had no leader once Duncan died.  Sure you quaterbacked it at that point because hey your the main character not Allistar.  And your analogy is ludacris and hardly fits.

He said that he had only been a Grey Warden for six months before you met him, and the implication is that he didn't have that much experience fighting darkwpawn. Also, there's a strong chance that he's really not in a position to be Wardening all willy nilly (like if he's king or exiled or dead).

Modifié par SurelyForth, 02 mars 2010 - 07:59 .

[1bloodyrogue]

SurelyForth wrote...

1bloodyrogue wrote...

I don't think it ever said he was only a few months ahead of you; I think you just came to that conclusion.  And I don't see that he gave control over to you I saw it as a team as they had no leader once Duncan died.  Sure you quaterbacked it at that point because hey your the main character not Allistar.  And your analogy is ludacris and hardly fits.

He said that he had only been a Grey Warden for six months before you met him, and the implication is that he didn't have that much experience fighting darkwpawn. Also, there's a strong chance that he's really not in a position to be Wardening all willy nilly (like if he's king or exiled or dead).

Ok maybe he only has a few months ahead of you but "he didn't have that much expierence fighting darkspawn" opposed to your not fighting ANY darkspawn proves Allistar is the more seasoned Grey Warden.

[Bryy_Miller]

Cuthlan wrote...

Your choices in the epilogue don't actually count for anything other than dialog. The auto-save Epilogue file is created BEFORE the coronation ceremony and those choices.

You mean the ending captions? All your choices have been made before then - that's why they exist. 

[Cuthlan]

1bloodyrogue wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

1bloodyrogue wrote...

I don't think it ever said he was only a few months ahead of you; I think you just came to that conclusion.  And I don't see that he gave control over to you I saw it as a team as they had no leader once Duncan died.  Sure you quaterbacked it at that point because hey your the main character not Allistar.  And your analogy is ludacris and hardly fits.

He said that he had only been a Grey Warden for six months before you met him, and the implication is that he didn't have that much experience fighting darkwpawn. Also, there's a strong chance that he's really not in a position to be Wardening all willy nilly (like if he's king or exiled or dead).

Ok maybe he only has a few months ahead of you but "he didn't have that much expierence fighting darkspawn" opposed to your not fighting ANY darkspawn proves Allistar is the more seasoned Grey Warden.

Not fighting any darkspawn depends on your origin. Dalish elf and dwarven noble both fought darkspawn in their origins. Lots of them, more than Alistair.

Even with that, I can say with confidence that all of my characters regardless of origin faced and killed more darkspawn than Alistair did. More of any monster, at that. They are all higher level than he is.

Modifié par Cuthlan, 02 mars 2010 - 08:10 .

[Evolution33]

1bloodyrogue wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

1bloodyrogue wrote...

I don't think it ever said he was only a few months ahead of you; I think you just came to that conclusion.  And I don't see that he gave control over to you I saw it as a team as they had no leader once Duncan died.  Sure you quaterbacked it at that point because hey your the main character not Allistar.  And your analogy is ludacris and hardly fits.

He said that he had only been a Grey Warden for six months before you met him, and the implication is that he didn't have that much experience fighting darkwpawn. Also, there's a strong chance that he's really not in a position to be Wardening all willy nilly (like if he's king or exiled or dead).

Ok maybe he only has a few months ahead of you but "he didn't have that much expierence fighting darkspawn" opposed to your not fighting ANY darkspawn proves Allistar is the more seasoned Grey Warden.

If you are the Dwarf Noble you have plenty of experience fighting darkspawn. Plus if you remember correctly Duncan protected Alistair and never let him really do anything important. My point and my analogy were simply that experience is not just measured in length but in intensity as well. In the main playthrough I am importing into Awakenings Alistair quite the Grey Wardens to marry Anora and become King of Ferelden while I took Loghain to go kill the archdemon.

But even if Alistair is still a Grey Warden at the end of the game I still think your leadership ability and the fact that Alister wasn't there at all times fighting the Blight leads to your Grey Warden being more seasoned. I can cook a chicken for 4 hours with nothing on it or I can add a bunch of spices and cook it for 30 minutes. Which one is more seasonned?

[SurelyForth]

1bloodyrogue wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

1bloodyrogue wrote...

I don't think it ever said he was only a few months ahead of you; I think you just came to that conclusion.  And I don't see that he gave control over to you I saw it as a team as they had no leader once Duncan died.  Sure you quaterbacked it at that point because hey your the main character not Allistar.  And your analogy is ludacris and hardly fits.

He said that he had only been a Grey Warden for six months before you met him, and the implication is that he didn't have that much experience fighting darkwpawn. Also, there's a strong chance that he's really not in a position to be Wardening all willy nilly (like if he's king or exiled or dead).

Ok maybe he only has a few months ahead of you but "he didn't have that much expierence fighting darkspawn" opposed to your not fighting ANY darkspawn proves Allistar is the more seasoned Grey Warden.

The Dalish orgin and the Dwarf noble both fight darkspawn before Ostagar.

My point is that he's terribly inexperienced. Most of his Wardening has been sitting in the compound in Denerim. The way he talks, it's entirely possible that his Joining is about the only experience he has and that doesn't put him that far ahead. Besides, even if he dies, you're always the Hero. You have to accept the responsibility that comes with that.

[1bloodyrogue]

According to the books the Cannon is Human noble though right? Plus in EVERYONE's game your character kills more darkspawn than Allistar or you suck.

[Cuthlan]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Cuthlan wrote...

Your choices in the epilogue don't actually count for anything other than dialog. The auto-save Epilogue file is created BEFORE the coronation ceremony and those choices.

You mean the ending captions? All your choices have been made before then - that's why they exist. 

The OP was asking about the conversations that take place during the ceremony at the end, which do have a minor influence on your ending captions (like a Dalish elf telling the king/queen that he is returning to his clan at the end).

Those are the things I was talking about, as they take place after the epilogue save.

[Diogo Gomez]

I guess the choices in teh epilogue will not affect that. What sucks because I don't really like being stucked to a place so I choose to go search for Morrigan and some more adventure so I wished I could start in somewhere where I was having and adventure and not somewhere to build the grey wardens... Because that's not what I choosed.

[Bryy_Miller]

Cuthlan wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Cuthlan wrote...

Your choices in the epilogue don't actually count for anything other than dialog. The auto-save Epilogue file is created BEFORE the coronation ceremony and those choices.

You mean the ending captions? All your choices have been made before then - that's why they exist. 

The OP was asking about the conversations that take place during the ceremony at the end, which do have a minor influence on your ending captions (like a Dalish elf telling the king/queen that he is returning to his clan at the end).

Those are the things I was talking about, as they take place after the epilogue save.

Interesting. I had not heard of that.

[Ju13es]

is there any way to read your character epilogue after beating the game? Its been so long since i beat it with one character that i cant remember what their ending was O.o