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[Peer of the Empire]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Rebel_Guy wrote...

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Maviarab wrote...
Do you know how stupid you sound. Dman patriotic Americans thinking they are bigger and better than everyone else. jesus Christ, may I remind you about your illegal war at the moment which you could only start because you paid US to help you, and its US doing most of the work there and being KILELD for your stupid damn pathetic illegal war because you need the fecking OIL?

moron...

Let's stick to the fun topic please.

But
America really is bigger and better than everyone else.
All wars are "illegal".
Who is us?  Remind me so I can thank you
It is a stupid war.  We aren't getting any oil and I think Saddam was good for the Middle East.

People like you are the reason people hate Americans...

And so what?  Fck em.  They can live in their shtholes and socially awkward ivory towers being jealous of us all day.

Says the guy whos country is going to hell and being bought by their chinese overlords LOL

Indeed.  We are abandoning the principles that made this country great and becoming like the rest of the world, mediocre

[superimposed]

Also, it's a game.

[Rodriguer2000]

Zhijn wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

BattleVisor wrote...

And also another note, femshep doesn't have even an athletic build, she looks pretty average and puny. If she had an athletic build it would be slightly more believable.

I'd like to know your standards for an athletic build. By the sounds of it ManShep wouldn't cut it either.

I'd love for these guys to meet my friend from highschool whos been studying kali silat from the age 10.
And im not afraid to say she would kick the crap outta me!. <_<

yeah cause she has skill. 
I bet if you had trained in that class you would be just a strong and skilled as her.We have tough girls out here too and its not cause they are skilled its cause they just freakin tough

[Lightice_av]

not typically slim with zero muscle mass

She's got a pretty damn athletic build, you know. Zero muscle mass my ass. Hey, that rhymes...

[Goat_Shepard]

Where's the Jordy's "In before the lock" gif?

[The Angry One]

BattleVisor wrote...

My issue is that femshep is retarded concept poorly done by bioware, because they dont really care about the character, the only thing good about fem shep is her popular voice actor, (which personally I think is over-rated a little)

Oh please. They put in more effort than most when it comes to games with customisable characters.
Yes they're lazy on some aspects, but they've been lazy with ManShep too in some areas.

I mean fem-shep has the typical female human model, which is shared by most human females...I think. They should have made her a little more, bigger, especially in the arms. Not buff, but not typically slim with zero muscle mass

You do realise ManShep has the typical male model too, shared by Joker?
Also, you need to actually play FemShep and pay attention, she's somewhat slim but also has defined muscles and generally looks fit.

[JamieCOTC]

because she is the Bionic Woman  as well as the Biotic Woman. 

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 03 mars 2010 - 12:11 .

[Akka le Vil]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

OK I was going to keep quiet about this, however, you chose to go there so here it is.  Skill is everything in a fight.  A smaller, quicker woman, who is properly trained, can dance in and out of the range of a bigger stronger male and do more damage to him before he can ever touch her.

You "dance around" people in boxing (because of the rules), not in "survival" fights...
What you describe is Hollywood action movie fighting, nothing even close to what happen in reality. Please.

Also, getting hit with armor in the face is going to break skin and leave marks, male or female.  Don't care how hard you hit them.

This point is true, though, as many have already said. A metal gauntlet is definitely bone-breaking material, even without putting a lot of strength in it.

Modifié par Akka le Vil, 03 mars 2010 - 12:11 .

[Zyrious]

Jzadek72 wrote...

Zyrious wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Shepard looks tough for a female but the game treats Shepard as having equal strength regardless of gender. This doesn't make any sense considering how a male Shepard would obviously be stronger than a female Shepard by virtue of gender. It's just a biological fact.

My gods... the fact that you are literate enough to write a post is beyond my understanding. The biological difference is quite small, and when it comes down to it, the big difference is cultural. A woman (and please note, this is purely a generalisation), even in modern culture, is still not pressurised for strength as much as a man is. Therefore, the average man will put more work into improving his strength. I did not, and despite being male, am weaker than some women I know who are more athletic. A female Shepard is under more pressure for strength due to her military aspirations. Then, if we take gene enhancements into account, she could very easily cover that small biological difference.

More to the point, a damaging punch is more about technique than anything else. So, yeah. Femshep could easily be just as strong.

The genetic difference is a lot more significant than you think. There's a whole chromosone of a difference, in fact. An entirely different set of genetic instructions. They do still teach all of this in highschool dont they? Or did they burn all of the anatomy/health101 books when i wasnt looking?

I mean the biological difference in strength. I assumed no one would be thick enough to think I was talking about in general.

I was talking about strength. "The difference between men and women". Women have to work twice as hard for the same amount of muscle, and have a lower "upper limit" than men do.

Modifié par Zyrious, 03 mars 2010 - 12:22 .

[Sphynx118]

Akka le Vil wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

OK I was going to keep quiet about this, however, you chose to go there so here it is.  Skill is everything in a fight.  A smaller, quicker woman, who is properly trained, can dance in and out of the range of a bigger stronger male and do more damage to him before he can ever touch her.

You "dance around" people in boxing (because of the rules), not in "survival" fights...
What you describe is Hollywood action movie fighting, nothing even close to what happen in reality. Please.

Also, getting hit with armor in the face is going to break skin and leave marks, male or female.  Don't care how hard you hit them.

This point is true, though, as many have already said. A metal gauntlet is definitely bone-breaking material, even without putting a lot of strength in it.

According to some people femsheps armor is made of muffins and flowers

[gneissguy2003]

Here's a splendid idea that I think allows for a genuine compromise.



The OP has stated that he believes that the typical maleShep should have an advantage over femShep by doing more damage with his physical attacks. Okay, fine, then femSheps need to be recognized for their obvious advantage.



As someone briefly mentioned earlier, it's been shown that women, on average, deal better with pain than men do. With this in mind, I propose that all femSheps take less damage than maleSheps. I mean it's only logical, right? It's been proven by science that women truly do deal with pain better. I think it only makes sense, then, that they are harder to kill.



My 2 cents.

[MKATAKM]

superimposed wrote...

Also, it's a game.

It's a game? But I thought.....I thought....Oh never mind.

[superimposed]

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Rebel_Guy wrote...

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Maviarab wrote...
Do you know how stupid you sound. Dman patriotic Americans thinking they are bigger and better than everyone else. jesus Christ, may I remind you about your illegal war at the moment which you could only start because you paid US to help you, and its US doing most of the work there and being KILELD for your stupid damn pathetic illegal war because you need the fecking OIL?

moron...

Let's stick to the fun topic please.

But
America really is bigger and better than everyone else.
All wars are "illegal".
Who is us?  Remind me so I can thank you
It is a stupid war.  We aren't getting any oil and I think Saddam was good for the Middle East.

People like you are the reason people hate Americans...

And so what?  Fck em.  They can live in their shtholes and socially awkward ivory towers being jealous of us all day.

Says the guy whos country is going to hell and being bought by their chinese overlords LOL

Indeed.  We are abandoning the principles that made this country great and becoming like the rest of the world, mediocre

You abandoned them when Reagan came in to power, abolished Occupational Health and Safety and Welfare programs, and completely ignored the wishes of the founding fathers of America who told religion to GTFO of their Government.


Also, guys, ME:2 is a game. Think 'gameplay' not 'biology'.

[Lightice_av]

I was talking about strength. "The difference between men and women". Women have to work twice as hard for the same amount of muscle, and have a lower "upper limit" than men do.

This is true, or close to it. But unlike OP and his pals are saying, women can get so high strength ratio that the difference doesn't make a lot difference in an actual fight. Knocked out is knocked out, despite of the small difference between the two.

[Goat_Shepard]

The Angry One wrote...
You do realise ManShep has the typical male model too, shared by Joker?
Also, you need to actually play FemShep and pay attention, she's somewhat slim but also has defined muscles and generally looks fit.

In my ME1 playthrough it looked like my FemShep had a really small head/face in proportion to her body. I probably screwed up cuz I made her chin too pointy (hate how it looks totally different from the Character-Create). I actually find that my black FemShep looked more natural than my white one. Again, though, I suck at custom faces.
I hate Kelly for her hair and hate that I love console achievements so much 

[BattleVisor]

The Angry One wrote...

You do realise ManShep has the typical male model too, shared by Joker?
Also, you need to actually play FemShep and pay attention, she's somewhat slim but also has defined muscles and generally looks fit.

Yeh I was actually thinking of that example, but the typical male models are relatively strong and pretty buff.

[superimposed]

gneissguy2003 wrote...

Here's a splendid idea that I think allows for a genuine compromise.

The OP has stated that he believes that the typical maleShep should have an advantage over femShep by doing more damage with his physical attacks. Okay, fine, then femSheps need to be recognized for their obvious advantage.

As someone briefly mentioned earlier, it's been shown that women, on average, deal better with pain than men do. With this in mind, I propose that all femSheps take less damage than maleSheps. I mean it's only logical, right? It's been proven by science that women truly do deal with pain better. I think it only makes sense, then, that they are harder to kill.

My 2 cents.

Femshep should be able to dress like Samara which forces all organic males to become stunned compeltely during every battle.

[Akka le Vil]

gneissguy2003 wrote...

Here's a splendid idea that I think allows for a genuine compromise.

The OP has stated that he believes that the typical maleShep should have an advantage over femShep by doing more damage with his physical attacks. Okay, fine, then femSheps need to be recognized for their obvious advantage.

As someone briefly mentioned earlier, it's been shown that women, on average, deal better with pain than men do. With this in mind, I propose that all femSheps take less damage than maleSheps. I mean it's only logical, right? It's been proven by science that women truly do deal with pain better. I think it only makes sense, then, that they are harder to kill.

My 2 cents.

I propose that both use a master-slave based exoskeletton that would produce the whole strength needed and would make pointless any difference of strength !

[Rodriguer2000]

Lightice_av wrote...

I was talking about strength. "The difference between men and women". Women have to work twice as hard for the same amount of muscle, and have a lower "upper limit" than men do.

This is true, or close to it. But unlike OP and his pals are saying, women can get so high strength ratio that the difference doesn't make a lot difference in an actual fight. Knocked out is knocked out, despite of the small difference between the two.

okay get me a male pro boxer and a female pro boxer and lets see who would win then we can talk

[The Angry One]

Rodriguer2000 wrote...

okay get me a male pro boxer and a female pro boxer and lets see who would win then we can talk

In the same weight class it could go either way, it would depend on skill.

[superimposed]

lawl. ME is not Pro-boxing.

[Lightice_av]

I propose that both use a master-slave based exoskeletton that would produce the whole strength needed and would make pointless any difference of strength !

ME1 implies that you already have one, considering that you can buy strength boosters to it.

okay get me a male pro boxer and a female pro boxer and lets see who would win then we can talk

Boxers have to follow rules. Discard rules, throw away the gloves, and have both parties ready to kill the other, and the difference narrows down considerably.

[Rodriguer2000]

The Angry One wrote...

Rodriguer2000 wrote...

okay get me a male pro boxer and a female pro boxer and lets see who would win then we can talk

In the same weight class it could go either way, it would depend on skill.

exactly which is were we would see who is more skilled

[ToshiStation38]

When does Shepard ever beat someone in a boxing match? I must have missed that part. [/sarcasm]

[Sphynx118]

superimposed wrote...

lawl. ME is not Pro-boxing.

STFU ME is the new TEKKEN!