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[Bootsykk]

So, this time around, i want to aim to get the most Zevran dialogue possible. But, seeing as there's the little predicament of having to complete at least one major plotline event, I'm not sure where to start.

I know there are many Zevran fans out there who have the luxury of being able to record, reply, and look back at dialogue due to having a PC. So, somebody help a girl with an xbox out?

[Default137]

I don't think he has any lines for Mage Tower tbh, I know he has a few lines about Dalish, and quite a few in Redcliffe/Haven, and even two in Orzammar, but I don't remember anything from the Mage Tower, so that might be a good place to start. ( Also you get higher stats, yay higher stats! )

[ejoslin]

NO! Take him to the mage tower. If anything, if you're planning on romancing him, consider doing the sacred ashes quest line. You'll most likely hear about what he regrets most before you get there otherwise (he will tell the warden about his final mission quite early if romanced, usually).  Otherwise, the Dalish is actually a pretty good one to get out of the way first.  That way you can give him the gloves early as well.  Some people swear by redcliff as well, but you have to kill Isolde or Conner.

Because, seriously, you want Zevran in the fade.

Edit: removed stuff

Modifié par ejoslin, 03 mars 2010 - 01:25 .

[melkathi]

ejoslin wrote...

NO! Take him to the mage tower. If anything, if you're planning on romancing him, consider doing the sacred ashes quest line. You'll hear about what the guardian has to say to him before you do it if you do it last anyway.

No don't do sacred Ashes first. Zev has some nice dialogue in Haven.

Personally I'd do Brescilian forest first or maybe Orzammar. Zev hasn't too much dialogue in Orzammar unless you plan to double cross people.
I think Brescilian forest is only worth doing last if you are dalish (at least I think the part at the campfire where your companions introduce themselves to the elves after being asked wether they are wardens as well, is unique to dalish elves)

[ejoslin]

Zevran is great if you initially decide to kill the Dalish, though -- he has always managed to talk my warden out of it. And I LOVE Zev in Orzammar. Especially with Ruck (and ESPECIALLY if you don't have Oghren in your party when you talk to Ruck).

Haven is good, as is Redcliff. Gah. Redcliff is fastest as long as you sacrifice Isolde or Conner.

Just . . . take Zevran to the circle! *grin* It's the only place you'll hear about, well, what you hear about there and you will have concrete proof about how he covers up things.

edit: yes, I did.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 03 mars 2010 - 01:25 .

[melkathi]

The thing about Sacred Ashes is, it's nice having him do the Guardian chat when your character does not yet know.

Your character can then have an "Oh" moment when Zev finally confides.

Or if your character knows, then (s)he understands Zev's reaction to the guardian.

[knittzu]

Maybe the game is glitched for me but I only had to do half of the Sacred Ashes quest before I got Zevran, so I was able to take him along for the ashes part. I met up with him right after I took care of the Connor situation.



I love him in Orzammar and wouldn't even consider going there without him.

[ejoslin]

knittzu wrote...

Maybe the game is glitched for me but I only had to do half of the Sacred Ashes quest before I got Zevran, so I was able to take him along for the ashes part. I met up with him right after I took care of the Connor situation.

I love him in Orzammar and wouldn't even consider going there without him.

No, that's right.  What I mean by sacred ashes goes like this.

Lothering => Denerim => Haven => Andestre's temple.  You don't have to go to Redcliff first.

Conner is part of the Redcliff arc.

[Cuddlezarro]

if you want him ASAP I would go do redcliff first(and sacrifice Isolde or kill conner) or the Dalish origins both are short and he doesnt say much during them (though his plea if you try get the werewolves to murder the dalish is great)



you will want to take him to Haven and the mage tower however and his conversation with Harrowmonts 2nd in command is really good to

[knittzu]

Ahhh, gotcha. So that's your path, Juneya. Have fun!

[ejoslin]

I have to figure out how to get the toolset working on my machine. I really would love to see if a "Zevran after Lothering" mod is possible.

[Cuddlezarro]

ejoslin wrote...

I have to figure out how to get the toolset working on my machine. I really would love to see if a "Zevran after Lothering" mod is possible.

so would every one in the zevran squee thread

[melkathi]

*tries to use other ways of convincing the OP to take Zev to Haven*




Now aren't you curious what Zev says in that situation? :innocent:

Modifié par melkathi, 03 mars 2010 - 02:54 .

[knittzu]

ejoslin wrote...
I have to figure out how to get the toolset working on my machine. I really would love to see if a "Zevran after Lothering" mod is possible.

If you do, I will loveses you forever!

[ejoslin]

I can't even get the toolset working on my machine, unfortunately!

Gah, you know, I switch up always which one I start with between the three I mentioned. I just love Zevran in Redcliff so much, threatening Murdock, helping my warden intimdate Berwick, cheering her on as she takes over Lloyd's bar . . . but it is fast! And the Dalish . . . gah, how can you resist hearing him plead for the dalish? Though you do end up with the gloves immediately, so that's good.

Modifié par ejoslin, 03 mars 2010 - 02:59 .

[Gilsa]

Juneya wrote...

So, this time around, i want to aim to get the most Zevran dialogue possible. But, seeing as there's the little predicament of having to complete at least one major plotline event, I'm not sure where to start.

I know there are many Zevran fans out there who have the luxury of being able to record, reply, and look back at dialogue due to having a PC. So, somebody help a girl with an xbox out?

To be honest, I was least impressed with Zevran while doing the elven areas because he didn't have much to say and even admits his knowledge of his ancestors is next to nothing. (I heard way more dialogue from Sten there.) You'd miss out on a joke he makes at the hermit camp (the tree stump), but you can easily get that in another game, romance or no. So I'd either do the blood ritual at Redcliffe or do Brecilian Forest first.

[knittzu]

Hmmm, maybe I'll do Brecilian forest first for my dwarf run. I've never had Zev with me for Haven -or- Redcliff and clearly I'm missing out.

No worries, ejoslin, I wouldn't have the first clue either, but it sounds like others might be able to mod that for us. That would seriously make me happy-dancey-happy.

[MorGothic]

If you want to get Zevran early it's easy to do without needing the toolset

First you need to enable the console, go to 

dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Console#Console_commands

and follow the instructions.

Now load up a save game and create a new save (I always make a new save before using the console just to be safe, even though I have never had any problems after using it).

Go to Lothering (it doesn't matter where from really, but the whole is max Zev time) with your chosen party (do not travel from camp unless your awesome enough to kill them all on your own )

Bring up the console and type runscript zz_ran_debug and press enter (if nothing happens you mistyped something), this will start the Random Events Debugger, now select Plot then Zevran and you will appear at the start of that encounter.

If you need any thing explained clearer just PM me.

EDIT: This encounter may prove to be very difficult at low levels (if you don't mind cheating pause the game and use runscript killallhostiles this should kill every enemy but Zev in the area )

Modifié par MorGothic, 03 mars 2010 - 03:53 .

[ejoslin]

MorGothic wrote...

If you want to get Zevran early it's easy to do without needing the toolset

First you need to enable the console, go to 

dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Console#Console_commands

and follow the instructions.

Now load up a save game and create a new save (I always make a new save before using the console just to be safe, even though I have never had any problems after using it).

Go to Lothering (it doesn't matter where from really, but I wouldn't try it once you have started the Broken Circle quest due to it may cause problems) with your chosen party (do not travel from camp unless your awesome enough to kill them all on your own )

Bring up the console and type runscript zz_ran_debug and press enter (if nothing happens you mistyped something), this will start the Random Events Debugger, now select Plot then Zevran and you will appear at the start of that encounter.

If you need any thing explained clearer just PM me.

MorGothic . . . I love you. No, seriously. We've never met or anything but  . . .

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Edit: I'm going to test this now, and if it works, may I add it to my FAQ (giving you full credit of course)? 

Edit: Eeeep, maybe I was a bit too enthusiastic in my thanks.  I'm, ummm, stepping out now . . . 

Third edit: And it works.  YAY!  Thank you again for this!

Modifié par ejoslin, 03 mars 2010 - 04:04 .

[Maria Caliban]

ejoslin wrote...

Because, seriously, you want Zevran in the fade.

Let's be honest: You want Zevran everywhere and in a wide range of positions.

[ejoslin]

Maria Caliban wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Because, seriously, you want Zevran in the fade.

Let's be honest: You want Zevran everywhere and in a wide range of positions.

With and without rope . . .

[MorGothic]

MorGothic . . . I love you. No, seriously. I've never heard of you, or anything but . . .

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Edit: I'm going to test this now, and if it works, may I add it to my FAQ (giving you full credit of course)? 

I can hardly say "No" can I...

As for not hearing of me that would be because I mainly lurk due to being to lazy to post (although I recognised your name from the Abominable Wynne thread).

Modifié par MorGothic, 03 mars 2010 - 04:12 .

[ejoslin]

MorGothic wrote...

MorGothic . . . I love you. No, seriously. I've never heard of you, or anything but . . .

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Edit: I'm going to test this now, and if it works, may I add it to my FAQ (giving you full credit of course)? 

I can hardly say "No" can I...

As for not hearing of me that would be because I mainly lurk due to being to lazy to post (although I recognised your name from the Abominable Wynne thread).

I added it and gave you credit.  If you have any objections to my wording, let me know and I'll change it. And thank you again.  I feel the need to write something really mean about Wynne as a thank you . . . 

[Cuddlezarro]

ejoslin wrote...

MorGothic wrote...

MorGothic . . . I love you. No, seriously. I've never heard of you, or anything but . . .

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Edit: I'm going to test this now, and if it works, may I add it to my FAQ (giving you full credit of course)? 

I can hardly say "No" can I...

As for not hearing of me that would be because I mainly lurk due to being to lazy to post (although I recognised your name from the Abominable Wynne thread).

I added it and gave you credit.  If you have any objections to my wording, let me know and I'll change it. And thank you again.  I feel the need to write something really mean about Wynne as a thank you . . . 

sorry but you walked right into that

[Default137]

Now the question is, how does this affect when you would normally get him?



Does the cutscene still play?