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[Ecael]

Shepard, Admiral Hackett has uploaded a new dossier for you to consider before the final Reaper battle.

The dossier indicates that Hudson, the Alliance Corsair, is currently residing in the city of Edmonton, located in the American Union. His precise location is unknown. I suggest you check in with the main Alliance headquarters in New New York City for more information.

[Soma Holiday]

Ecael wrote...

Shepard, Admiral Hackett has uploaded a new dossier for you to consider before the final Reaper battle.

The dossier indicates that Hudson, the Alliance Corsair, is currently residing in the city of Edmonton, located in the American Union. His precise location is unknown. I suggest you check in with the main Alliance headquarters in New New York City for more information.

lol!  I gotta admit, Casey Hudson is a hottie.   

Minxie18 wrote...

KalosCast wrote...

Let's
look at the female human squadmates in Mass Effect
Ashley - Gunnery
Officer Blandy
Miranda - Intense loyalist, runaway, criminal
Jack -
psychotic, conflicted, powerful, criminal

And for the guys?
Kaidan
- Lieutennant Blandy
Jacob - Blandy 2: Blandy Harder
Jenkins -
Dead before he can even reveal a tragic backstory.

Exactly
- the human males are utterly bland and forgettable... I'm with the OP
on this one. There needs to be at least one more male human squad member
with a distinctive personality in the way that Miranda and Jack are
distinctive, preferably one who, as a LI, isn't so damn nice to FemShep [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]. She
needs a challenge.

I mean I like the alien male LIs and all (I
think Garrus has the most interesting personality of all them), but the
idea that my poor FemShep isn't physically... compatible with them hurts
the roleplaying for me. I'd like for there to be at least one human
male LI that FemShep can physically be with (without her being in danger
of dying, or getting painful rashes and having hallucinations [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]) who also
manages to be interesting as a person.

Exactly! Thanks for the support. Though I think the idea of a boyfriend with LSD skin sounds kinda awesome...  Though he'd remember everything and I'd remember nothing...still.

[sedrikhcain]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

DaeJi wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

You also need to look at who is buying and playing the games. Now I know there are girl gamers out there, but what % of the sales are girls? I could look it up I suppose, but my guess is that it is overwhelmingly guys that by the game.

www.womengamers.com/news/2008/07/18/40-us-gamers-are-women/

Well that is a pretty good % of girl gamers. 

40% of US gamers are female? My bald-dome index tells me that is at best some seriously manipulated data and, at worst, a baldface lie. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if women were seriously into video games as much as men but you just do not see 4 out of every 10 people wandering into game stop and EB games being female -- unless you count the moms there buying games for their boys, and even then I doubt you'd get to 40 per cent.

There is a chicken/egg question, I suppose. You could say if you make more games with females in mind, more females will become big gamers -- but that's a question of what may be, not what is.

I want to see the methodology of that study because I'm just not buying that one at all.

[sedrikhcain]

Minxie18 wrote...

KalosCast wrote...

Let's look at the female human squadmates in Mass Effect
Ashley - Gunnery Officer Blandy
Miranda - Intense loyalist, runaway, criminal
Jack - psychotic, conflicted, powerful, criminal

And for the guys?
Kaidan - Lieutennant Blandy
Jacob - Blandy 2: Blandy Harder
Jenkins - Dead before he can even reveal a tragic backstory.

Exactly - the human males are utterly bland and forgettable... I'm with the OP on this one. There needs to be at least one more male human squad member with a distinctive personality in the way that Miranda and Jack are distinctive, preferably one who, as a LI, isn't so damn nice to FemShep . She needs a challenge.

I mean I like the alien male LIs and all (I think Garrus has the most interesting personality of all them), but the idea that my poor FemShep isn't physically... compatible with them hurts the roleplaying for me. I'd like for there to be at least one human male LI that FemShep can physically be with (without her being in danger of dying, or getting painful rashes and having hallucinations ) who also manages to be interesting as a person.

I have no idea whether women will find Kaidan sexy but his back story isn't bland -- his combat presence, on the other hand...

[Taritu]

Kaiden is just fine in combat, as long as you know how to use him - biotics + tech skills = win.

[RPGmom28]

<- female. I hate gaming stores. It's hard to walk because it's so crowded. I buy ALL of my games from either Direct2Drive or have them shipped directly to my house.

[sedrikhcain]

Taritu wrote...

Kaiden is just fine in combat, as long as you know how to use him - biotics + tech skills = win.

I didn't say ineffective. I said bland, which, of course, if subjective -- as is his appeal as LI.

[sedrikhcain]

Taritu wrote...

Kaiden is just fine in combat, as long as you know how to use him - biotics + tech skills = win.

I didn't say "ineffective". I said bland.

It's all subjective, though, as is his appeal as LI.

[sedrikhcain]

Taritu wrote...

Kaiden is just fine in combat, as long as you know how to use him - biotics + tech skills = win.

I didn't say "ineffective". I said bland.

It's all subjective, though, as is his appeal as LI.

[sedrikhcain]

Taritu wrote...

Kaiden is just fine in combat, as long as you know how to use him - biotics + tech skills = win.

I didn't say "ineffective", I said bland, which is, of course, subjective -- as is his appeal as LI.

[sedrikhcain]

Taritu wrote...

Kaiden is just fine in combat, as long as you know how to use him - biotics + tech skills = win.

I didn't say ineffective. I said bland, which, of course, if subjective -- as is his appeal as LI.

[sedrikhcain]

multiple posts! sorry everyone.

Modifié par sedrikhcain, 03 mars 2010 - 05:21 .

[sedrikhcain]

Taritu wrote...

Kaiden is just fine in combat, as long as you know how to use him - biotics + tech skills = win.

I didn't say "ineffective". I said bland.

It's all subjective, though, as is his appeal as LI.

[Taritu]

RPGmom28 wrote...

<- female. I hate gaming stores. It's hard to walk because it's so crowded. I buy ALL of my games from either Direct2Drive or have them shipped directly to my house.

Well, that and a lot of game stores don't carry PC games any more, and sorry, I'm not a console player.

[Taritu]

Sigh, double posting glitch.

Modifié par Taritu, 03 mars 2010 - 06:14 .

[sepir]

There is always Conrad Verner for ME3 ....

[LebatomiBeni]

Minxie18 wrote...

Exactly - the human males are utterly bland and forgettable... I'm with the OP on this one. There needs to be at least one more male human squad member with a distinctive personality in the way that Miranda and Jack are distinctive, preferably one who, as a LI, isn't so damn nice to FemShep . She needs a challenge.

I AGREE. Kaidan and Jacob are just too feckin nice; they come off as boring and push-overs. I don't hate them though. This is just my opinion... *gets nuked by fangirls anyway*

I'd very much like to see a femshep LI with a strong personality, someone who isn't so nice and doesn't act as if he owes you anything. That would be fun..

[sedrikhcain]

RPGmom28 wrote...

<- female. I hate gaming stores. It's hard to walk because it's so crowded. I buy ALL of my games from either Direct2Drive or have them shipped directly to my house.

are you suggesting that women prefer D2D and men prefer the stores or just stating a personal preference?

[sedrikhcain]

crap. sorry folks. dreaded glitch.

[tehprincessJ]

I'm going to have to agree with the OP. Jack should have been male. That would have been perfect. Or Kelly. At the very least.

[sedrikhcain]

by the way, re: the study linked to above...among its claims are this:



"Women age 18 or older represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing population (33 percent) than boys age 17 or younger (18 percent)"



Honest opinions, does anyone here believe that statement? That's not a rhetorical question. I'd really like to know.

[tropicalwave]

I think it is less that they make games for guys but more that it is guys making the games. There are vastly more men in the gaming industry then women, especially in the creative, development side of it. Though that is slowly changing.



I am a man and would like to have seen another male teammate that was not Zeed or Jacob. I didn't care for either of them. I would have shot Zaeed on his loyalty mission, not convince him to do what I say. I lost all respect for Jacob in his reaction to Thane after acquiring him.



My Femsheps wouldn't have Garrus and because Thane is dying didn't want to get that going. One of them would have had Jack (since obviously Jack had no issues with both men or women, she says as much at least once) but no that wasn't an option (which still seems very strange to me. Why wouldn't Jack open up as much to a female as a male). Then that goes to another issue I have, the only real 'relationships' you get oar LI's. Why can't I have a deep friendship with some of my teammates. Why couldn't I get Jack to open up to me. Why couldn't I have a best friend in Miri or Samara. I think that would be just as cool.



And we all know that Tali has a crush on FemShep. Why can't we play that out more than her just saying 'I'd link suits with you.'



Anyways I vote for more humans, more aliens and just more interactions everywhere. Why can't I have Aria or finally get my appointment with the consort in the Citadel. And when can I finally hit Udina?

[sedrikhcain]

is it possible to romance Zaeed?

[superimposed]

I don't think Bioware tends to make games for guys so much as the games they do make tend to appeal more to guys. Shootie, blowie uppie things.

[The Angry One]

I agree that the whole relationship thing in ME2 is completely messed up.

The idea that they'll only really bond with you if they become your lover is incredibly stupid and somebody at BioWare should get a smack in the head for it.



I don't think Tali really has a crush on FemShep, linking suits is a plutonic way of bonding among Quarians - that Admiral woman did it with Tali's mother (for her birth, nothing kinky damnit!).