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[Slipfeed]

So there's this guy standing in my camp see, with an exclimation point over his head.  He has a quest! Marvelous!

I speak to this man, and attempt to accept his quest.

A box pops up that says, in effect "Please pay us $7.00 in addition to the $52 you just payed to accept this quest.

[WUT?]

Nope.  Sorry.  Not falling for it.  This game seems about 50% complete anyway.  I've opened about 500 chests and have found exactly 3 pieces of caster gear... all of which share the exact same art... and none of wich are an upgrade from the crap I got in my origin quest.

You completed this game.... and removed half the content so you could sell it bit by bit over a period of time for loads of money.

That's just not right.  It's not in the spirit of fair play I say!  You're supposed to deliver a complete product, and then actually DO MORE WORK to expand that product to MAKE MORE MONEY.

You had best patch that dude standing in my camp out unless I have the DLC installed.  And try not to make the patch break my game this time.  I had to re-extract the .exe from the disk to make it work after 1.01a  I know it's a different vc2005, but COME ON.  Proffesionalism.  I can't even spell it and I seem to have more knowledge of it than you do all of a sudden.

WTF happend to Bioware?  Buying a game you guys made used to be a sure fire investment.  I feel like I just bought half a game for the price of a whole one.  I probly should have just saved $30 and got sacred 2 for 19.00 from the bargain bin.

STOP TRYING TO RAPE MY WALLET.

It wont work.  I'll continute playing through this game once, and if ferdelen is the only area, if I dont get to follow those arrows on the map to the free marches and such, it will be the absolute last bioware game I ever buy.  period.  Mass effect 2... no.  SW:TOR... nope.  I have purchased every single title you guys have made with all the expansions since baulders gate.  1.

If you sold me half a game and expect me to pay double for the rest over a period of 2 years, it will be the last $50 you ever see from me, and i'll be reviewing the game at every store site on the web.

I feel like I have been **** invaded.  I am butthurt.  I will cry.  And my tears will most likley cost you money.



EDIT: Removed excessive punctuation.

Modifié par Slipfeed, 08 novembre 2009 - 08:42 .

[northernNether]

I don't really mind too much, but it makes me wonder if having the NPC show up AFTER purchasing the DLC, would have users taking this a whole lot better.



It feels as if we paid $50 for the game, to have to pay an additional fee to access a part of the purchase. Whereas downloading and paying for DLC and then having the NPC tell you about the quest would have made it seem like a reward, instead of a mandatory payment for the quest.

[The-Cyber-Dave]

I haven't run into that yet. I have to say, running into that would upset me to. Seeing something about making payments in the real world in a RPG would really break the story immersion for me. I have no problem with them adding down loadable and extra content, but that content should not be advertised inside the game-play itself, in my opinion.

[Slipfeed]

Ya well, I guess there's one born every minute as they say. I've been doing this gaming thing for a loooong time and I can tell when a game is incomplete. This game is incomplete. Unless you want be to believe Bioware was so lazy they couldnt be bothered to make more than 2 models for mage robes and 3 for staffs. They just changed out the textures.... it's sad. The only way you're going to get the advertised 80+ hours of gameplay out of this is if you play on nightmare and spend 60 of those hours hitting the load game button.

I rage.

Yes, it was the "advertisment" for DLC in game that sent me over the edge here.  I see it as having to pay to take a quest in a single player game.  And this is why i'm about to uninstall, trash my disk and never touch another bioware game again.

We've been putting up with buggy game releases for years now.  If we put up with micropayments for single player content like this, pretty soon every quest will cost you twenty five cents.  It will happen.

If we let it.

But I guess like I said before, there is indeed one born every minute.  If they are willing to loose half thier customer base to fleece the idiots, there isnt much we can do about it.

Modifié par Slipfeed, 07 novembre 2009 - 06:50 .

[The-Cyber-Dave]

That last post is bologna though. I have played 30+ hours, and I am not anywhere near half finished all of the content present in the game. This game has 80+ hours in it. And while it might have been nice to have a few more mage textures, lacking them really doesn't indicate that the game is not finished. Its a fairly minor issue.

[Leetabix]

well a big reson for the dlc out allready is becuse dragon age was finished on pc in like match but was delayed so the ps3 and xbox360 versons could come out at the same time.

[Sereaph502]

The-Cyber-Dave wrote...

That last post is bologna though. I have played 30+ hours, and I am not anywhere near half finished all of the content present in the game. This game has 80+ hours in it. And while it might have been nice to have a few more mage textures, lacking them really doesn't indicate that the game is not finished. Its a fairly minor issue.

Perhaps only if you spend the whole game revisiting every single town after every major story line event talking to every single NPC in the game while going through every single dialog option in the game in order to maybe find a sidequest to do to maybe prolong the game for another few minutes

[Killer-bot]

Sereaph502 wrote...

The-Cyber-Dave wrote...

That last post is bologna though. I have played 30+ hours, and I am not anywhere near half finished all of the content present in the game. This game has 80+ hours in it. And while it might have been nice to have a few more mage textures, lacking them really doesn't indicate that the game is not finished. Its a fairly minor issue.

Perhaps only if you spend the whole game revisiting every single town after every major story line event talking to every single NPC in the game while going through every single dialog option in the game in order to maybe find a sidequest to do to maybe prolong the game for another few minutes

Thats a bit excessive, I've hit about 40 hours playtime and I've only done the Shale DLC and only two of the three main towns.  You are just skipping everything as near as I can tell.

[Veracruz]

Slipfeed wrote...
 I've been doing this gaming thing for a loooong time and I can tell when a game is incomplete.

No, you don't. You just state your biased opinion/perception into universal truth that should be accepted by everyone else.

[ToJKa1]

It was a bad i idea to have that NPC there before purchasing the DLC. As i said in the other thread, use that launcher news feed to inform me of DLCs, not ingame NPCs.



Needles to say to say i may not take it too well if you patch more NPCs like that to promote your future DLCs.

[Bawheidbob]

no one is forcing you to pay this, this is extra content that people who bought CE edition got for free, i really wish Bioware had not given the plebs access to this all they have done is throw it back in there face

[Slipfeed]

Veracruz wrote...

Slipfeed wrote...
 I've been doing this gaming thing for a loooong time and I can tell when a game is incomplete.

No, you don't. You just state your biased opinion/perception into universal truth that should be accepted by everyone else.

You seem to be confused.  My opinion is not biased.  It's logical. 

Allow me to explain to you, the obviously uninformed, the structure of deductive logic.

Premise.
Observation.
Conclusion.

A premise, supported by an observation, forms a conclusion.

Premise: A country with an ancient history that was once ruled by mages and has been host to elves, and foriegn invaders will contain equipment with more than 4 distinct shapes.

Observation: each equipment type has 4 distinct shapes or less.

Conclusion: Incomplete game.

Modifié par Slipfeed, 07 novembre 2009 - 07:24 .

[Slipfeed]

Bawheidbob wrote...

no one is forcing you to pay this, this is extra content that people who bought CE edition got for free, i really wish Bioware had not given the plebs access to this all they have done is throw it back in there face

I've spent $250.00 on games this week.  Take your wannabee elitism somewhere else.

[gcanders]

Just wait for "game of the year' editions, my man. I did that with Oblivion, and I was happy. I think they advertised there would be paid downloads before they released it. What bothers me is that musical instrument in my camp. I want to play it. I would pay 1.00 to be able to pick up and strum some chords on that thing while a few of my group danced. I would pay 1.50 if they let me practice arpeggios.

[Slipfeed]

gcanders wrote...

Just wait for "game of the year' editions, my man. I did that with Oblivion, and I was happy. I think they advertised there would be paid downloads before they released it. What bothers me is that musical instrument in my camp. I want to play it. I would pay 1.00 to be able to pick up and strum some chords on that thing while a few of my group danced. I would pay 1.50 if they let me practice arpeggios.

I would actually pay 2.00 for an explination of how my charecter had sex while wearing plate armor.

[veryalien]

I paid $7 and did it reluctantly. There's a good chance I won't be buying the rest of the ME games but continue buying DLC and play DA:O. I figure this will keep my gaming budget in check.



Bioware trying to get MORE money out of me? Not likely.

[Valamyr]

Slipfeed wrote...

gcanders wrote...

Just wait for "game of the year' editions, my man. I did that with Oblivion, and I was happy. I think they advertised there would be paid downloads before they released it. What bothers me is that musical instrument in my camp. I want to play it. I would pay 1.00 to be able to pick up and strum some chords on that thing while a few of my group danced. I would pay 1.50 if they let me practice arpeggios.

I would actually pay 2.00 for an explination of how my charecter had sex while wearing plate armor.

We live in the age of platemail thongs. Practicality cannot be allowed to take precedence!

[Bawheidbob]

Do not like game, do not play game ,do not pay money for more stuff in game you do not like, play other game you spent $200 on this week, do not whine in forum, be happy, life is good

[gcanders]

Slipfeed wrote...

gcanders wrote...

Just wait for "game of the year' editions, my man. I did that with Oblivion, and I was happy. I think they advertised there would be paid downloads before they released it. What bothers me is that musical instrument in my camp. I want to play it. I would pay 1.00 to be able to pick up and strum some chords on that thing while a few of my group danced. I would pay 1.50 if they let me practice arpeggios.

I would actually pay 2.00 for an explination of how my charecter had sex while wearing plate armor.

Lol. 

[VanDraegon]

So, specifically, just how is the game incomplete?

[Zulyish]

Before anything, I love the game so far. This is probably the most addicting game I have played in a bloody long time.

I care not that there is a salesman for DLC's in my camp - perfectly understandable and the best way to market this sort of thing. What I draw the line at is having to pay $7 to get storage space for single player mode in the base camp. Seems ludicrous.

Modifié par Zulyish, 07 novembre 2009 - 07:20 .

[DRock067]

Slipfeed wrote...

Veracruz wrote...

Slipfeed wrote...
 I've been doing this gaming thing for a loooong time and I can tell when a game is incomplete.

No, you don't. You just state your biased opinion/perception into universal truth that should be accepted by everyone else.

You seem to be confused.  My opinion is not biased.  It's logical. 

Allow me to explain to you, the obviously uninformed, the structure of deductive logic.

Premise.
Observation.
Conclusion.

A premise, supported by and observation, forms a conclusion.

Premise: A country with an ancient history that was once ruled by mages and has been host to elves, and foriegn invaders will contain equipment with more than 4 distinct shapes.

Observation: each equipment type has 4 distinct shapes or less.

Conclusion: Incomplete game.

how long is a long tme?

[Slipfeed]

northernNether wrote...

I don't really mind too much, but it makes me wonder if having the NPC show up AFTER purchasing the DLC, would have users taking this a whole lot better.

It feels as if we paid $50 for the game, to have to pay an additional fee to access a part of the purchase. Whereas downloading and paying for DLC and then having the NPC tell you about the quest would have made it seem like a reward, instead of a mandatory payment for the quest.

DLC available on day 1 ....

Someone went... "Hey guys, we can pull half this crap out, charge full price for what's left and sell the extra later".
Then someone else went. "Why not just start now?  $$$ woohoo! these idiots will never know!"

I rage.

Seriously.  $15.00 for the shale dlc?  Then to include it in the box, and put a price tag on it anyway?

Then to price wardens keep at $7.00

Am I the only one that see's the sales pitch here?

"Regularly 75.00, but CALL NOW!!! for only 19.95!!!!"

Modifié par Slipfeed, 07 novembre 2009 - 07:26 .

[koshiee]

I agree it's messed up of Bioware to have an in game NPC try to sell us DLC. And i have a sinking fear that they're going to try and nickel and dime us to death w/ one piece of DLC after another. The first thing is a storage space, that frankly should've been included in the game. Next they'll try to sell us "special" gear, and sooner or later we'll basically be playing a free mmo w/ everything costing money.