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[mr_nameless]

I just don't understand DLCs...Just a pure scam practice which I hope will get banned soon.

Why not just include everything in big big expansions like the days of BG2: Throne of Ball ??



Its like saying here's this wonderful complete novel and well sell you 4 extra paragraphs for chapters 3, 5 and 8!! Oh wait , what about an extra chapter!!! But HEY if you don't want it DONT BUY IT!!!

This marketing practice just stinks.

[Undead Hunter 27]

Yes usermade free content eg campaigns and mods will be the main winner for the game plus half of the time dlc isn't really worth it when you think about it.

[Seraosha]

Rayne Myria Solo wrote...

Serosha: No it's really not. Shale is the only thing you could even compare to that..and well..it's not lame, so..no.

I'm more referring to the furore. It's Bioware's particular implementation of this quest that's causing the ruckus here. No-one wants to have to find a character in game that is literally only there to try and sell you premium content. A line has been crossed. The only place you ought to have to learn of it or buy it is in the Downloadable Content part of the main menu.

[allothernamesweretaken]

While it's still bull****, it's an 80+ hour long game. Get over it.

[allothernamesweretaken]

Slipfeed wrote...


  I feel like I just bought half a game for the price of a whole one.

>One hour and a half long dungeon

>Half an 80+ hour game

[Atsilar]

It's called "premium content" that's for people who don't mind paying 7 dollars. It's not free, it's not crucial to the game, and if you don't want to buy it you don't have too. The toolset Bioware released will provide more content (in time) that is free for those who can't or choose not to pay 7 dollars.



Bioware is in a business to make money. Sort of like an Airline. If you fly you can choose 1st class or standard seating. If you choose first class you have to pay more. There is no "line" being crossed by airlines charging more for first class because they are (gasp) in the business to make money.



The sooner you nubs realize that Obama is not here to take care of you in the online world the sooner you will log off, find a better job, and then decide whether or not you want to pay an additional 7 dollars for "premium content".



I hope this helps.

[miltos33]

allothernamesweretaken wrote...

While it's still bull****, it's an 80+ hour long game. Get over it.

I don't necessarily agree with this attitude. The important thing is that a line has been crossed. Have you thought of the consequences if we were to accept it just like this? Then what is next, an endless amount of spamming and pop ups in our games for absolutely irrelevant products to the one that we chose to purchase? 

[Drala2k]

I think what irritated me was spending $65 on the collectors, yes I know cloth map and metal tin though not that impressive, and not getting the Warden DLC. I did not fully understand the diff between this and the DLC Digital Deluxe ed. and the CE. And yes the package said exactly what I was getting, yes I know my fault. I would have gone Steam for the Warden had I done my homework. The Warden DLC gives extra storage space for your party. At any rate, check out the PC Gamer Podcast. A nice review of the the game by Deslock. He goes into a bit of a rant on this.

At this point I do not believe I will be buying the Warden DLC on principle, but who knows what the future holds as I get over this, and I will probably get it.



Other wise,

a great game that I am enjoying thoroughly Bioware! Well done!

[miltos33]

Atsilar wrote...
 
Bioware is in a business to make money. Sort of like an Airline. If you fly you can choose 1st class or standard seating. If you choose first class you have to pay more. There is no "line" being crossed by airlines charging more for first class because they are (gasp) in the business to make money.

The sooner you nubs realize that Obama is not here to take care of you in the online world the sooner you will log off, find a better job, and then decide whether or not you want to pay an additional 7 dollars for "premium content".

I hope this helps.

This is not a matter of money but a matter of principle. It is about respecting you as a customer. And your example is ridiculous, because when you fly once you chose either 1st class or standard seating no airline will bother you during the flight, but instead they will respect you, serve you, and leave you in peace. And can you please drop that elitism? I am European so I don't really care about Obama, and I probably have a better job than you have. 

[allothernamesweretaken]

miltos33 wrote...

allothernamesweretaken wrote...

While it's still bull****, it's an 80+ hour long game. Get over it.

I don't necessarily agree with this attitude. The important thing is that a line has been crossed. Have you thought of the consequences if we were to accept it just like this? Then what is next, an endless amount of spamming and pop ups in our games for absolutely irrelevant products to the one that we chose to purchase? 

Trust me, I'm far from okay with DLC salemen, and I was trying to formulate a post about why it's a terrible idea, when Penny Arcade went ahead and did it for me. I was more talking about the whole "Eighty hour long game being incomplete without an hour long dungeon," attitude.

[addiction21]

mr_nameless wrote...

I just don't understand DLCs...Just a pure scam practice which I hope will get banned soon.
Why not just include everything in big big expansions like the days of BG2: Throne of Ball ??

Its like saying here's this wonderful complete novel and well sell you 4 extra paragraphs for chapters 3, 5 and 8!! Oh wait , what about an extra chapter!!! But HEY if you don't want it DONT BUY IT!!!
This marketing practice just stinks.

No its like there being a add in the middle of the book advertising a short story set in the world of that book.  The game by itself without the DLC's IS A COMPLETE STORY.  Start, middle, and end.  You do not need either DLC to complete the MAIN campaign or to understand it. You will not miss anything or not be able to understand anything in the main games campagin if you do not have the DLC.

Yes the dude in the camp selling it is a dick move and we will need to see how it pans out.

[allothernamesweretaken]

addiction21 wrote...

mr_nameless wrote...

I just don't understand DLCs...Just a pure scam practice which I hope will get banned soon.
Why not just include everything in big big expansions like the days of BG2: Throne of Ball ??

Its like saying here's this wonderful complete novel and well sell you 4 extra paragraphs for chapters 3, 5 and 8!! Oh wait , what about an extra chapter!!! But HEY if you don't want it DONT BUY IT!!!
This marketing practice just stinks.

No its like there being a add in the middle of the book advertising a short story set in the world of that book.  The game by itself without the DLC's IS A COMPLETE STORY.  Start, middle, and end.  You do not need either DLC to complete the MAIN campaign or to understand it. You will not miss anything or not be able to understand anything in the main games campagin if you do not have the DLC.

Yes the dude in the camp selling it is a dick move and we will need to see how it pans out.

What this man said.

[macayle]

Perhaps i am missing soemthign here.  As far as i can tell the DLC you pay  "extra" for is the content that was included in the CE  which  those people paied extra for to start with.  It seems what they did was make this extra content more affordable for people.  Instead of havign to shell out the cost of the CE you can if you want just buy the extra DLC  which comes out much cheaper.  Additionaly, for those on a budget they can   just buy the DLC when they have the extra coin for it  instead of shelling out all the money at the start.   They could easily just have included it in the first place at a higher inital purchase cost.

[mikey3k]

I love how people bring up immersion in a game LOL. You are controlling the damn game with a controller or a keyboard and mouse. How is THAT not "immersion breaking"? Immersion my ass...

[NotSoEager]

Kamenwati wrote...

I paid the $75 for the collectors edition and gladly paid the $7 for the DLC in advance. Was quite happy with the storyline it gave me. I don't see the problem. Sorry the experience is ruined for you though.

Wait till the next 20 x $7 you are going to pay! I am sure you gladly give all your life savings to Bioware. Make your offerings mortals to the God Bioware.

[Harlequin Shadowlands]

Molton4 wrote...

Me thinks maybe, the "Gimme money NPC" had less to do with Bioware and perhaps more to do with EA

Since EA owns Bioware does it really matter? EA says jump and Bioware says how high. *shugs* Either way prob the publishers idea (EA) but who knows nor cares at this point. As the peep above said they are in the business to make money so on that level I do not fault them. HOWEVER I do agree the NPC that tries to sell you DLC ingame is a cheap and rude way for advertise it. There are other ways to go about letting players know about the DLC ingame (like during loading screens) without breaking immersion or using bait and switch (See the ! above my head come to talk me... got ya!).

[Henning Olsen]

NotSoEager wrote...

Kamenwati wrote...

I paid the $75 for the collectors edition and gladly paid the $7 for the DLC in advance. Was quite happy with the storyline it gave me. I don't see the problem. Sorry the experience is ruined for you though.

Wait till the next 20 x $7 you are going to pay! I am sure you gladly give all your life savings to Bioware. Make your offerings mortals to the God Bioware.

If each of those DLCs contain 1-3 hours of gameplay, than that's still more for your money than the avrage game released these days, most of which are finished in 6-10 hours

[allothernamesweretaken]

mikey3k wrote...

I love how people bring up immersion in a game LOL. You are controlling the damn game with a controller or a keyboard and mouse. How is THAT not "immersion breaking"? Immersion my ass...

You're an idiot.

[CrYpT1c_CHa0s]

Let this argument die. DLC is here to stay. And if you dont like it, talk with your wallet and dont buy it. I am tired of hearing this crap. I get to read it non stop on PS3 and 360 boards. Why complain? The companies dont care cause people will buy it and there is no way your little whiny kid rant here is gonna do anything about it cause there are millions of people who buy the stuff.

[artmonster1967]

allothernamesweretaken wrote...


You're an idiot.

spoken like a true hero....

....no wait.....

misread...

your an idiot too.

[allothernamesweretaken]

artmonster1967 wrote...

allothernamesweretaken wrote...


You're an idiot.

spoken like a true hero....

....no wait.....

misread...

your an idiot too.

[Dephness]

I'm done the game on the second hardest difficulty in 29 hours... no ecsing on cutscenes, did not power through the main quests. i did most if not all the side quests.



I wont be buying from bioware again if they want to sell content they should have included with the main game. People are going to end up paying 100+ dollars for this game that is good. But not great, and certainly not worth it.



Grats on shooting yourself in the foot bioware.

[allothernamesweretaken]

Dephness wrote...

I'm done the game on the second hardest difficulty in 29 hours... no ecsing on cutscenes, did not power through the main quests. i did most if not all the side quests.

Uh huh, sure.

[artmonster1967]

Dephness wrote...

I'm done the game on the second hardest difficulty in 29 hours... no ecsing on cutscenes, did not power through the main quests. i did most if not all the side quests.

I wont be buying from bioware again if they want to sell content they should have included with the main game. People are going to end up paying 100+ dollars for this game that is good. But not great, and certainly not worth it.

Grats on shooting yourself in the foot bioware.

lol...your profile shows just one level 9 character.

[Knottis]

allothernamesweretaken wrote...

artmonster1967 wrote...

allothernamesweretaken wrote...


You're an idiot.

spoken like a true hero....

....no wait.....

misread...

your an idiot too.

Misspelling one word makes an idiot in your mind, oh my. Guess you are the only "normal" person in the world then.