Remember, that the Reaper in Mass Effect 1 -- took a whole ****load of crap to take him down, that and he had an entire geth fleet on his hands with him. He destoryed so much of the Alliance fleet just by waltzing through it, they have very powerful mass effect drives, powerful weapons and shields.
How will they?
Not even the entire milltary can defeat one ship.
How?
Discuss theorys.
My own theory is much like yours, probably.
Haelstrom's exploding sun and biotic-power/dark energy being used to age an sun in an cluster, leading them into a trap. It'd be a sacrifice, but it's true enough that the radiation will kill everything. Or act as an EMP.
How the - hell - will - we defeat the Reaper fleet?
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:09
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Easy. BioWare retconned Sovereign into only destroying 8 Alliance cruisers.
That makes a Reaper a glorified dreadnought.
Dreadnoughts and cruisers with thanix cannos > Reapers.
That makes a Reaper a glorified dreadnought.
Dreadnoughts and cruisers with thanix cannos > Reapers.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:11
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DarkNova50 wrote...
We need a really big bomb.
..I watched that movie yerstarday.
Good sir, you just earned five points.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:11
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Viruses are popular in dealing with invading aliens (War of the Worlds, Independence Day, some others...)
Other more interesting kill all type weapons have been done though:
Folk music - Mars Attacks
Water - Signs
What else...
Other more interesting kill all type weapons have been done though:
Folk music - Mars Attacks
Water - Signs
What else...
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:12
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Go inside the boss of the Reapers and press the "fleet self-destruct button?"
Dramatic jump onto Normandy.
Get drunk.
Dramatic jump onto Normandy.
Get drunk.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:13
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aeetos21 wrote...
Viruses are popular in dealing with invading aliens (War of the Worlds, Independence Day, some others...)
Other more interesting kill all type weapons have been done though:
Folk music - Mars Attacks
Water - Signs
What else...
The Babylon 5 method.
Main character gets on a soap box and tells the evil alien horde to ****** off. And they do.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:13
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On a side note, I firmly believe that if Bioware is smart, tactically and strategically, the geth fleet will be the main offensive force against the reapers. Consider that the Reapers have weapons that can tear a human vessel in half and kinetic barriers that allow them to literally plow through turian ships without incurring damage. You would need either a multi-generational leap in technology or a method of avoiding the reaper's weapons as well as taking down it's kinetic barriers. In my mind, the neural network-linked geth could coordinate fleet wide precision ftl jumps, negating the reaper weapons advantage by never giving them a firing solution. In order to take down the shields of the reaper you would need a boarding party that isn't vulnerable to indoctrination, ie the geth because of their inability to be hacked for any length of time, to destroy the mass effect core of each individual reaper. Every time a geth ship came out of FTL they'd fire at a reaper allowing the boarding party to get in range. The quarian, krogan, and rachni forces would be in charge of evacuation and ground assaults with the quarian flotilla in charge of evacuating turian, human, asari, roloi (the new race), and any other race with a similar form factor and the Rachni in charge of evacuating the elcor and volus, because of the need for larger halls. The krogans don't have ships and would be in charge of fighting any species the Reapers managed to ally themselves with, alongside the rachni ground forces and human, turian, asari, and salarian militaries.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:16
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I don't even get how the Krogan and the Rachni will help.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:17
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Interestingly, this was also done in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, at the end of the Dominion War.The Angry One wrote...
aeetos21 wrote...
Viruses are popular in dealing with invading aliens (War of the Worlds, Independence Day, some others...)
Other more interesting kill all type weapons have been done though:
Folk music - Mars Attacks
Water - Signs
What else...
The Babylon 5 method.
Main character gets on a soap box and tells the evil alien horde to ****** off. And they do.
One minute, the damn female Changeling is calling for all out genocide and going down fighting...then 10 seconds later, she tells her forces to stand down.
So lame.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:18
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SnakeSNMF wrote...
I don't even get how the Krogan and the Rachni will help.
Rachni are building a fleet. The Krogan... will totally headbutt the Reapers into submission.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:19
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"ah yes reapers we have dismissed that claim no need to worry"
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:20
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My theory is cake. Until they discover the cake is a lie.
In reality, I dunno. I'd rather wait and see rather then be in a corner twitching for the next two years.
In reality, I dunno. I'd rather wait and see rather then be in a corner twitching for the next two years.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:20
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I doubt we will truly "defeat" them. Likely find a way to keep them from entering into the galaxy for just a little bit longer.
Or it could be a deus ex machina. Whatever works really.
Or it could be a deus ex machina. Whatever works really.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:21
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Turian Hierarchy has the Thanix cannon tech, presumably it can build Cruisers or Dreadnoughts with upscaled versions. Cerberus getting access to the collector base and reverse engineering their ship mounted particle beam weapons will strengthen the Systems Alliance.
Then there is:
- The Geth
- The Quarians
- The Rachni
- The Krogan
- The rest of the combined council fleet.
Then there is:
- The Geth
- The Quarians
- The Rachni
- The Krogan
- The rest of the combined council fleet.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:21
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Honestly, I can sense an Warcraft-like Old God thing.
They just lock them away until an cult opens them up, then lets them through, for possible more games.
They just lock them away until an cult opens them up, then lets them through, for possible more games.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:21
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SnakeSNMF wrote...
I don't even get how the Krogan and the Rachni will help.
Rachni have ships now, not big ones but scout vessels. Even if they do not have big warships, having a good scout force is already a plus. The Krogans will be the space marine force, attach to a Reaper ship and storm the internal systems.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:21
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With a space station people will mistake as a moon.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:23
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Well... there is one way I think that might work - at least on a ship to ship level (not a kill all type weapon but...)
So when we're fighting Soverign in ME1 he takes over the corpse of Saren, once we kill him Soverign for all intents and purposes is dead, all that is left is for the alliance to finish off the alien warship which by then was just a shell - in theory.
During ME2 we fought Harbinger on and off but we never actually fought the collector general. My theory is that the collector general acted as a conduit (for lack of better term) between Harbinger and the collector drones he assumed control of. That way when we killed those drones we didn't kill Harbinger, we just killed the vessel. Whereas with Soverign once we killed him in Saren's form he was dead.
This also explains why Harbinger released control of the collector general before the collector base went up in smoke, if he stayed in the general's body he would've been killed as well.
It's a very matrix type: "The body cannot live without the mind" way of thinking but it makes some sense, or at least the most amount of sense of any other theory I've run across so far. And it does pose a weakness to the reapers.
So when we're fighting Soverign in ME1 he takes over the corpse of Saren, once we kill him Soverign for all intents and purposes is dead, all that is left is for the alliance to finish off the alien warship which by then was just a shell - in theory.
During ME2 we fought Harbinger on and off but we never actually fought the collector general. My theory is that the collector general acted as a conduit (for lack of better term) between Harbinger and the collector drones he assumed control of. That way when we killed those drones we didn't kill Harbinger, we just killed the vessel. Whereas with Soverign once we killed him in Saren's form he was dead.
This also explains why Harbinger released control of the collector general before the collector base went up in smoke, if he stayed in the general's body he would've been killed as well.
It's a very matrix type: "The body cannot live without the mind" way of thinking but it makes some sense, or at least the most amount of sense of any other theory I've run across so far. And it does pose a weakness to the reapers.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:24
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GnusmasTHX wrote...
With a space station people will mistake as a moon.
That's no moon.
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:25
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thisisme8 wrote...
GnusmasTHX wrote...
With a space station people will mistake as a moon.
That's no moon.
Exactly.
Reapers: It's a trap!
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:26
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upload a virus that spreads to other ships? idk... just nuke em
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:27
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With the cain... it worked on the derelict one when I played on Insanity (Cain the core... it's a one shot one kill).
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Posté 03 mars 2010 - 06:27
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My 2c.
The Quarian fleet will play a big part. Half to 3/4 will die. The remainder will finally get granted a homeworld as thanks.
The Rachni will help with the ships they're building. Lots will die. As reward, they'll be granted Citadel council species recognition and forgiveness.
The Geth will play a big part. Lots will die, almost all, but they'll be granted Citadel membership, and an uneasy peace will be brokered between the Geth and the Quarians.
The Krogan will unite, and with the end of clan-based hostilities, they will finally revert to a stable sustainable growth, as planned by the modified genophage. Most will die in ground troop wars against husks and indoctrinated opponents. It will be glorious.
The Turians and Alliance will be massing Dreadnoughts. Their fleets will be huge.
Researchers will unlock the Reaper's key to control of the mass relay network and be able to disable the Reaper's isolationist control. With this control, the main Reaper fleet can be split up by shutting down the relays after only a few reapers get through. A huge fleet will be waiting for the few that make it through before a relay is (temporarily) de-activated. The separated Reapers will be overwhelmed and destroyed.
It will be a long fought out war of attrition as a result.
Shepard's team will be involved in strategic battles to secure control facilities and choke points, and be fighting indoctrinated servants that are battling to unlock the relay network.
That's my take on it.
The Quarian fleet will play a big part. Half to 3/4 will die. The remainder will finally get granted a homeworld as thanks.
The Rachni will help with the ships they're building. Lots will die. As reward, they'll be granted Citadel council species recognition and forgiveness.
The Geth will play a big part. Lots will die, almost all, but they'll be granted Citadel membership, and an uneasy peace will be brokered between the Geth and the Quarians.
The Krogan will unite, and with the end of clan-based hostilities, they will finally revert to a stable sustainable growth, as planned by the modified genophage. Most will die in ground troop wars against husks and indoctrinated opponents. It will be glorious.
The Turians and Alliance will be massing Dreadnoughts. Their fleets will be huge.
Researchers will unlock the Reaper's key to control of the mass relay network and be able to disable the Reaper's isolationist control. With this control, the main Reaper fleet can be split up by shutting down the relays after only a few reapers get through. A huge fleet will be waiting for the few that make it through before a relay is (temporarily) de-activated. The separated Reapers will be overwhelmed and destroyed.
It will be a long fought out war of attrition as a result.
Shepard's team will be involved in strategic battles to secure control facilities and choke points, and be fighting indoctrinated servants that are battling to unlock the relay network.
That's my take on it.
