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[AdmiralCheez]

ADLegend21 wrote...

I support shooting Urdnot Wrex from the main gun at the reaper fleet.

/Thread.

This.

[Sinapus]

LOTA

Either that or Gojira gets really peeved at all the noise and kicks them off Earth. Then destroys Tokyo again.

...and my obligatory answer: Bolos!!!

[Pwener2313]

Cough on them = Best Deus Ex Machina - I support... NOT.

[Biotic_Warlock]

Beat them using...


... feather dusters!

[Volus Warlord]

I still think Morinth or one of her sisters should **** them.

[Foehunter82]

DarkNova50 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

aeetos21 wrote...

Viruses are popular in dealing with invading aliens (War of the Worlds, Independence Day, some others...)

Other more interesting kill all type weapons have been done though:

Folk music - Mars Attacks
Water - Signs

What else...

The Babylon 5 method.
Main character gets on a soap box and tells the evil alien horde to ****** off. And they do.

Interestingly, this was also done in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, at the end of the Dominion War.

One minute, the damn female Changeling is calling for all out genocide and going down fighting...then 10 seconds later, she tells her forces to stand down.

So lame.

Yeah, I heard that the DS9 creators ripped off Babylon 5's plot to make their show.  That's why the shows have a lot of similar story lines.

[Foehunter82]

gotthammer wrote...

Pfft. They just need to find John Crichton and throw him into a wormhole so he can get 'wormhole weapons'. <br />
I don't think a Reaper fleet can survive a Black Hole generator...

You realize, of course, that's what the biotic power Singularity does, right?  Although, you do bring up a good point.  What if the key is to get every single biotic together to focus and create one great big singularity to kill the Reaper fleet.

[LordShrike]

B33R, controller and ME 3 disk.
Put disk on xbox/pc/ps3 tray and star to play/drink.
Just roll with it.
Wake up three days later in front of the monitor having no idea what you did during that time.
Check the save games to find out the insanity save 5mins from the Credits.
Find out that you now have the +NG option.
Go: "Buh?"
Brag about it in the forum.

Modifié par LordShrike, 11 mars 2011 - 06:25 .

[Ice Cold J]

There are, what, between 100-200 Reapers?
Sovereign had the Geth fleet with him and launched a surprise attack on the Citadel and still a single Alliance fleet was able ot take him down.
I think it stands to figure that ALL the combined fleets of ALL the galaxy races (humans, Turian, Asari, Salarian, Quarian, Geth, Batarian, Rachni, et. al) could be a match for and go toe-to-toe with the combined Reaper fleet.
I also hold strong to the belief that Sovereign may have been among the strongest of the Reapers, since he was tasked with remaning behind as their "vanguard."

[LordShrike]

Ice Cold J Said:

"There are, what, between 100-200 Reapers?
Sovereign had the Geth fleet with him and launched a surprise attack on the Citadel and still a single Alliance fleet was able ot take him down.
I think it stands to figure that ALL the combined fleets of ALL the galaxy races (humans, Turian, Asari, Salarian, Quarian, Geth, Batarian, Rachni, et. al) could be a match for and go toe-to-toe with the combined Reaper fleet.
I also hold strong to the belief that Sovereign may have been among the strongest of the Reapers, since he was tasked with remaning behind as their "vanguard.""

300ish. (295 IIRC) In wiki, the end scene from 2 someone counted them...
Or, maybe Sovvy was smaller. To make it easier to remain undetected.
Main reason Sovvy died was because of the loss of shields. And that was caused by Shep killing MechaSaren, witch caused overload in Sovvys systems. Old Dev. post in old forums said that was the leading cause of death.

[Ice Cold J]

1. OK.
2. Maybe, maybe not.
3. OK, so what's to prevent a small strike team from doing that again?

[LordShrike]

@Ice Cold J:
Oh, i dunno. Maybe the fact that there are not too many MechaSarens running around the universe.
The situation was somewhat unique, was it not? Sov could not do anything to Citadel that would not have destroyed the very thing he was there for. Ergo: MechaSaren.

[Ice Cold J]

LordShrike wrote...

@Ice Cold J:
Oh, i dunno. Maybe the fact that there are not too many MechaSarens running around the universe.
The situation was somewhat unique, was it not? Sov could not do anything to Citadel that would not have destroyed the very thing he was there for. Ergo: MechaSaren.

Huh?

I'm saying why couldn't a small crew of, oh, let's say 3, which MIGHT include a formerly dead Spectre, forcibly board a Reaper and fight their way to take out it's shields?

Think Star Wars. While the Death Star was worried about crusiers and frigates, small fighters breached its defenses and cause damage at close range.

[Nashiktal]

How he hell would you breach its defenses? I don't recall the Alliance fleet being outfitted with Thanix cannons, and from the sounds of the Turian patrol being killed by the collector ship they don't have it in widespread use either. Hell we don't even know if Thanix cannons will work on reapers.

[lovgreno]

I bet that if someone have a lot of thanix when the reapers come it's the turians. Good that I don't choose the isolationist options then.

[Moiaussi]

The Reapers do have a weakness. If they didn't, they wouldn't be so uptight about the Citadel or indoctrination/infiltration, they would just kill the old fashioned way.

I don't think uploading a virus is the answer, but some sort of weapon that essentially breaks their concentration might work, rendering them vulnerable. It is possible that their sheilds are not passive, but have to be actively maintained in the same way a biotic maintains a barrier.

This might also explain the squishies, in that cells from a race that can process eezo and hold up to the strain well might be usable as building materials for what is essentially a giant amplification system, enabling much stronger barriers/sheilds and other effects than those created by conventional mass effect generators.

In other words, I think that the link between mecha saren and sovereign is the answer. Figure out how to sever/jam that kind of link and we have it.

[Moiaussi]

So the million dollar question is.... if we come up with the answer the writers planned on using, will they feel obligated to change their plans? Alternatively, if we come up with a better answer than they planned on, will they adopt one of ours?

[Volus Warlord]

Moiaussi wrote...

So the million dollar question is.... if we come up with the answer the writers planned on using, will they feel obligated to change their plans? Alternatively, if we come up with a better answer than they planned on, will they adopt one of ours?

No and no.

[Ice Cold J]

Nashiktal wrote...

How he hell would you breach its defenses? I don't recall the Alliance fleet being outfitted with Thanix cannons, and from the sounds of the Turian patrol being killed by the collector ship they don't have it in widespread use either. Hell we don't even know if Thanix cannons will work on reapers.

With the kind of number an ENTIRE GALAXY could throw at them, how could you not punch a small hole in their defenses?

I'm just sayin'.

And that was A Collector ship vs. 1 Turian ship, right? I'm sure if they ran into a small Turian patrol convoy, it would've beena  different story.

[mopotter]

I'm not sure we will defeat them. I am sure we will be able to drive them back into dark space.

[LordShrike]

Ice Cold J:
Don't see how you could board a live Reaper. Maybe it's possible but i don't see it happening.
Something similar like this was argued on Dreadnought Effect thread, go read it, it's good stuff.

Citadels combined Dreadnought numbers are somewhere close to 100. And Reapers are way more powerful than DNs.

There were atleast 3 ships fighting the Collector vessel. Wrecks can be seen when SR-2 FTLs out. Possibly frigates.

Death Star has been done already, i expect bioware has more talented writers than that. Besides, Reapers are bound to have defense against small ships.

[Hunter-Wolf]

LordShrike wrote...

Ice Cold J:
Don't see how you could board a live Reaper. Maybe it's possible but i don't see it happening.
Something similar like this was argued on Dreadnought Effect thread, go read it, it's good stuff..

What if there was a way found to board a live one .. what do you think that will mean .. can it really do anything aganist numerous enemies tearing the inside of it other than release numerous Husks, Abminations and Scions ... i think if Shepard and all the other races found a way to teleport/warp in very close proximity to reapers and breach a living one you can unleash an army of krogan inside and let them have a field day with the insides of the reaper .. big party.

But that could be only part of the plan to defeat the reapers .. and it probably won't be enough even if they managed to do it a couple of times.

LordShrike wrote...Citadels combined Dreadnought numbers are somewhere close to 100. And Reapers are way more powerful than DNs.

There were atleast 3 ships fighting the Collector vessel. Wrecks can be seen when SR-2 FTLs out. Possibly frigates.

It isn't about the citadel fleets anymore .. those are just the humans, turians and asari (well mostly humans and turians as i don't think the asari have a fleet) ... there are still the salarians and the quarians and the geth (if you decided to have them reprogrammed) .. also if the krogans rebuilt a fleet (considering you left the cure .. they multiplied into billions during the time between ME2 and ME3 .. if they had millions of workers under wrex leadership they could possibly build a fearsome fleet .. specially if shepard vouches for them and get tech and resources from his/her many allies).

So that's Human, Turian, Quarian, Geth, Salarian fleets combined .. plus any possible fleets made by Krogan .. or even Rachnai if the do build a fleet.

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Peosnally i'd like ME3 to be about defeating the reapers with hardwork and an epic mulitf-layered plan .. not a "press big red button to kill entire enemy fleet" deus-ex-machina device .... if the plan involves all races .. each doing what they excel at and also working simultaneously in numerous places across the galaxy  .. when it all comes together in the finale it will feel truly exhilarating .. every ally you made during your journey with Shep will have his/her role in that grand scheme .. some will be working directly with you and others will be doing their thing where they fit better (i.e Wrex leading the entire Krogan population into the war) .. IMO that's how i think it should be done .. but defeating the reapers via some cheap device (independence day style ) will be extremely annoying and cheap .. i expect something epic and well thought out .. don't let us down Bioware

[wicked_being]

I just hope Bioware doesn't go Independence Day on this.

make virus -> steal little reaper ship -> fly into mother reaper ship -> upload virus