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TheContinuum wrote...

I see it happening two ways:
For Paragons, it's a massive cross-species coalition: The geth and quarians have a joint fleet (I'm assuming a paragon can have them kiss-and-make-up) in combination with the turians and humans, with the Destiny Ascension as the flagship. The krogans (hopefully lead by Wrex), cured from the genophage thanks to Mordin saving Maelon's work, lead the ground forces along with the rachni (imagine krogans riding rachni into battle, that would be sweet), as well as turian, human, and geth troops. A massive, all out war ensues, and only be the co-operation of all the species do we prevail.


Big bowl of stupid right there. You would actually want to cure the genophage? It wouldn't matter if the Reapers were defeated, the Krogan would soon either conquer the galaxy and kill everyone, or be killed while trying. Krogan wage war. It's in their blood, the genophage is for a reason.

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With a card game, you need max paragon or renegade to win it though.

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BinaryHelix101 wrote...

TheContinuum wrote...

I see it happening two ways:
For Paragons, it's a massive cross-species coalition: The geth and quarians have a joint fleet (I'm assuming a paragon can have them kiss-and-make-up) in combination with the turians and humans, with the Destiny Ascension as the flagship. The krogans (hopefully lead by Wrex), cured from the genophage thanks to Mordin saving Maelon's work, lead the ground forces along with the rachni (imagine krogans riding rachni into battle, that would be sweet), as well as turian, human, and geth troops. A massive, all out war ensues, and only be the co-operation of all the species do we prevail.


Big bowl of stupid right there. You would actually want to cure the genophage? It wouldn't matter if the Reapers were defeated, the Krogan would soon either conquer the galaxy and kill everyone, or be killed while trying. Krogan wage war. It's in their blood, the genophage is for a reason.


Agreed. That's would be like the people on "Lost" putting Hurly in charge of food supplies.

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Oh, please. It's not like we left some warmongering idiot on the throne.



It's Wrex.



Shepard tells Wrex to keep the Krogan in check. The Krogans stay in check. Anyone that doesn't, dies by his hand.

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BinaryHelix101 wrote...

TheContinuum wrote...

I see it happening two ways:
For Paragons, it's a massive cross-species coalition: The geth and quarians have a joint fleet (I'm assuming a paragon can have them kiss-and-make-up) in combination with the turians and humans, with the Destiny Ascension as the flagship. The krogans (hopefully lead by Wrex), cured from the genophage thanks to Mordin saving Maelon's work, lead the ground forces along with the rachni (imagine krogans riding rachni into battle, that would be sweet), as well as turian, human, and geth troops. A massive, all out war ensues, and only be the co-operation of all the species do we prevail.


Big bowl of stupid right there. You would actually want to cure the genophage? It wouldn't matter if the Reapers were defeated, the Krogan would soon either conquer the galaxy and kill everyone, or be killed while trying. Krogan wage war. It's in their blood, the genophage is for a reason.


Ye remind you of anyone?    Series, the species in the galaxy all suck balls except Krogan and Humans.    Krogan just breed too fast, and overrely on that strength.    I mean, both these species are the only ones who actually did anything in like the two thousand years since discovering ancient demi-god tech.   The turians spent 700 years to get ownt by humans who had been spacefaring and researching reaper tech for like, a hundred.

No wonder the reapers killed everyone.    Aliens are so goddam stagnant.    

Explore Expand Enslave Suck Dry Kill Culture Deport Colonize, Colonialism at its ****ing finest.    God I love us.    

Modifié par newcomplex, 03 mars 2010 - 09:08 .


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Passing a 100% Paragon or Renegade test, convincing the Reapers that either they are making a mistake and the galaxy doesn't need purging or that they're weak, cowardly fools who've become what they set out to stop.



Reapers then asplode.



Failing that there's a agonizingly long fight with a mechanical frog with rockets.

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Mass Effect already has time travel, in the forward direction, at normal speed.



Going back in time to stop the reapers would be horrible.

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TheUnusualSuspect wrote...

My 2c.

The Quarian fleet will play a big part. Half to 3/4 will die. The remainder will finally get granted a homeworld as thanks.

The Rachni will help with the ships they're building. Lots will die. As reward, they'll be granted Citadel council species recognition and forgiveness.

The Geth will play a big part. Lots will die, almost all, but they'll be granted Citadel membership, and an uneasy peace will be brokered between the Geth and the Quarians.

The Krogan will unite, and with the end of clan-based hostilities, they will finally revert to a stable sustainable growth, as planned by the modified genophage. Most will die in ground troop wars against husks and indoctrinated opponents. It will be glorious.

The Turians and Alliance will be massing Dreadnoughts. Their fleets will be huge.

Researchers will unlock the Reaper's key to control of the mass relay network and be able to disable the Reaper's isolationist control. With this control, the main Reaper fleet can be split up by shutting down the relays after only a few reapers get through. A huge fleet will be waiting for the few that make it through before a relay is (temporarily) de-activated. The separated Reapers will be overwhelmed and destroyed.

It will be a long fought out war of attrition as a result.

Shepard's team will be involved in strategic battles to secure control facilities and choke points, and be fighting indoctrinated servants that are battling to unlock the relay network.

That's my take on it.



This FTW.  The rest of you have failed miserably, especially the one's telling Star Wars jokes.  Those were just plain old lame.

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Non-serious answer:

Shepard is absorbed into the Reaper collective consciousness. His/her "incredible strong will" overwhelms the Reapers and leaves them helpless to be destroyed by the united fleets.

Modifié par Tamyn, 03 mars 2010 - 09:34 .


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Massadonious1 wrote...

Oh, please. It's not like we left some warmongering idiot on the throne.

It's Wrex.

Shepard tells Wrex to keep the Krogan in check. The Krogans stay in check. Anyone that doesn't, dies by his hand.


Krogan live for a long time, but eventually Wrex will die.

It's likely that a young upstart of a clan leader would then seize the chance to start conflict.

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You'll use the Grey Warden treaties to gather the support of the disparate and scattered armies of the galaxy.



Dragon Age: Origins...IN SPACE



But seriously, I'm also in the "gather an allied fleet and uncover a key Reaper weakness" camp.

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Umh? Ghostbusters?

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Mossa_missa wrote...

Umh? Ghostbusters?


Cross the streams?

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Wouldn't that create a giant reaper marshmellow man?

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Keltoris wrote...

Wouldn't that create a giant reaper marshmellow man?



.......... :pinched:   Painful.

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Keltoris wrote...

Wouldn't that create a giant reaper marshmellow man?


Crossing the streams blows up the StayPuft reaper.

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I stand by my pet theory: all of the allies you've accumulated in the past will play the part of Aragorn and his armies, and hold off the Reapers to buy time, while Shepard and his crew play Frodo and Sam, and go behind enemy lines to deploy some secret weapon to destroy the Reapers all in one fell stroke.

It's cliched, but I honestly don't think, with the GIGANTIC army they showed us at the end of ME2, that it would believable that, no matter how many allies you have, they could win in a straight-up fight. 

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The Reapers are going to win.



Their numbers will darken the skies of all our worlds.

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Shepard raises his pimp hand and scares the fleet away.



If al else fails just do a barrel roll.

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The Angry One wrote...

Easy. BioWare retconned Sovereign into only destroying 8 Alliance cruisers.
That makes a Reaper a glorified dreadnought.
Dreadnoughts and cruisers with thanix cannos > Reapers.

I don't think this was a retcon.  We only saw Sovereign blow up three or four Alliance ships, and a few more were lost saving the Destiny Ascension.  Furthermore, we don't know if the 8 ships mentioned are the ones lost saving the Destiny Ascension, or throughout the entire battle (remember, whether we save the Ascension or not, Sovereign seems to destroy the same number of ships in the same cutscene).  The Alliance's light losses are simply because they came in after much of the fighting was done, and hit the geth from behind.  Sovereign itself didn't even really participate in the battle significantly - we never saw its full capabilities - didn't see it fire on the defending Citadel fleet, and by the time the Alliance fleet arrived, it was attached to the Citadel, so fighting at a disadvantage.  The Turians, however, lost something like 25 cruisers in that battle even if we do save the Ascension.

As to how we will defeat the reapers, it seems unlikely we'll face them in some sort of ship-to-ship combat.  After all, this is an RPG, not a flight sim.  Our success or failure will ultimately rest on Shepard and two teammates fighting some sort of 'boss,' on foot.  Any speculation on reaper vs. fleet tactics is only really significant as far as 'what will the fleet do to delay the reapers while Shepard obtains and uses the MacGuffin?'

As far as destroying reapers in space combat goes, the derelict reaper shows they are vulnerable to kinetic impact, just like anything else.  You hit something hard enough, and it will be destroyed, whether that's a ship, a reaper, or a planet, for that matter.  What's the easiest way to produce a weapon out of existing technology in Mass Effect?  Something that people often forget is that it is essentially impossible to create faster than light travel without also creating a weapon of unimaginable destructive power.  Simply stated, if we really wanted to use logic to suggest a method of destroying the reaper fleet, we would construct a class of ships that have very powerful mass effect drives so they can maximize their FTL speed.  Then just crash into the reapers while traveling at FTL velocities.  Even a small ship traveling several times faster than light would impact with truly absurd amounts of energy.

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L SPL wrote...

The Reapers are going to win.

Their numbers will darken the skies of all our worlds.


I like how you think. pessimism ftw! :wizard:

Modifié par bs.II, 03 mars 2010 - 11:27 .


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Here's my thinking:



1.) EDI tells us something about reaper technology in her system to influence the reapers somehow. -> I think that this will provide the virus needed for a cascade-effect disabling all reapers at once. Which brings us to number two.



2.) Shepard must board one of the reapers during the final battle to open a channel for EDI to upload her stuff. This solves issue three.



3.) There's obviously a problem with a space battle as you steer a human and not a ship. So, the story must provide infantry to battle. My guess are husks again, sadly but true. And another collector race popping out of nowhere, obviously.



4.) While Shep enters the reaper, the rest will be distracted by a strategical alliance of hmm Alliance, Geth, Migrant Fleet and possibly Rachni. But there's one last point.



5.) What the hell are we going to do until the final battle? I wouldn't mind going on a vacasional planet with my LI and play some rounds of beach volleyball. Hey, i would even invite the whole crew and invite everyone to green stuff.




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Ancient Mass Accelerator weapon MacGuffin.

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I'll send Legion in as a double agent to tell them a sun is really just a massive cheesepuff filled with a tasty puree of humans. They've been in darkspace so long, they have to be hungry. Then all the squid ships will go up to munch on the sun and burn up.



The End...thanks for playing!

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We should force them to all watch an episode of "Will and Grace" that way they will just kill themselves.