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[huntrrz]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

I doubt we will truly "defeat" them. Likely find a way to keep them from entering into the galaxy for just a little bit longer.

Or it could be a deus ex machina. Whatever works really.

The Geth finish their megastructure and their combined consciousness transcends the physical plane.  They will the Reapers out of existance and tell us to 'be nice to each other' before they wink out of existance.

A literal Deus Ex Machina.

[Manou1]

This is what will happen to Shepard:
 

Modifié par Manou1, 04 mars 2010 - 01:16 .

[ObserverStatus]

The alliance has to invent the "Little Doctor" of course.

[sedrikhcain]

annihilator27 wrote...

Gavinthelocust wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

L SPL wrote...

The Reapers are going to win.

Their numbers will darken the skies of all our worlds.

Oh god hes indoctrinated.

Quick! Kill him before it sp- ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!

Lmao, "I WILL DIRECT THIS PERSONALLY"

IF I MUST TEAR YOU APART SHEPARD, I WILL


hehe, too much fun.

[Dewarren2010]

This has already been said, but it seems that to kill a reaper you have to destroy whatever it is possessing. We only killed Sovereign by killing the possessed saren, leaving the reaper as a 'husk". When you get the IFF from the reaper, the reaper was still 'alive", though it didn't have enough command over its form to do anything outside of indoctrination. And when the collector general dies, Harbinger "releases command" to avoid dieing himself. It seems that a reaper is just an efficient way to store the reaper's "soul", and reapers are in fact a kind of spirit (in lack of a better term) instead of an actual machine being.

Of course, that's just an idea

[Airell]

maybe shehard will get a message from Queen Starsha and they will have to go pick up the wave motion gun to destroy the reapers and he will only have 365 days to get it.

[Halmiriliath]

*Swings sword at Reapers*

'No effect!? I need a bigger sword...'

Modifié par Halmiriliath, 04 mars 2010 - 02:09 .

[Marstead]

I have to say with close to certainty that the whole Dark Energy Star thing is going to have to be the method at play.
What would be cool would be if the quarian discovery of the phenomenon leads to a galaxy-wide investigation that establishes some new scientific field. Perhaps the phenomenon causing the accelerated aging of Haestrom can be harnessed by the galactic community, and this is exactly the kind of discovery the Reapers were trying to prevent by forcing their civilizations to develop along predetermined lines.
If you think about it, they make clear that all eezo is a byproduct of supernovae. For the first Reapers to have had access to materials from supernovae, they either couldn't be as ancient as they claim to be, or they had some other way to obtain eezo from a star by forcing it to supernova early.
This actually makes sense because it goes hand-in-hand with the ME2 Reaper Codex entry that mentions them "devouring whole stars"--they actually cause supernovae specifically to harvest eezo.
Another big theme I noticed in both games are the constant references to Sovereign and Reapers' "massive element zero cores". "In order for it to land on a planet, it is presumed to have a *massive element zero core*." The word 'presumed' is tricky in this universe (the Citadel was presumed to be built by the Protheans), and when we go to the Derelict Reaper, its core is actually really tiny. Maybe they aren't using eezo at all, but some more efficient energy source from supernovae?
So the galactic races figure out how to harness this energy and maybe even trigger their own supernovae. This was made possible by Shepard delaying the Reaper invasion, and the technology is discovered in one of two ways based on the ME2 Ending:
Renegade: You gave the Collector Base to Cerberus, who discovers the technology on the base. They keep it for themselves and use it to both wipe out the Reapers and dominate the galaxy.
Paragon: The quarian inquiry to the mechanic develops further and along more natural lines, aided by the geth after peace is brokered. Scientists of the galaxy unite, each race plays a special role.

Something to that effect. I think that's the only semi-elegant way they can do it.

Modifié par Marstead, 04 mars 2010 - 02:35 .

[Destructo-Bot]

Pointing the exit relay into a black hole won't work. Any reasonably intelligent fleet would sent a scout ahead first for a report back. When your scout fails to return, you won't send the rest through.

So pointing a relay at a black hole just stalls the Reapers.

Modifié par Destructo-Bot, 04 mars 2010 - 03:26 .

[Lucazius]

What is going to defeat the Reapers?



Zaeed Massani and his new mercenary... yes, that guy called Shepard.



Of course Shepard is the one going ahead, because if the Reapers see Zaeed first hand... they'll just go back to whatever black hole they came from, and ME3 will finish in 5 secs.

[wako58]

The key to the destruction of the reapers will be something that is so common to man's existence on this planet and yet, is constantly overlooked as a minor contrivance for the shortsighted. I'm talking duct tape here gentlemen....lots, and lots of duct tape.

[Dark_Caduceus]

Koyasha wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Easy. BioWare retconned Sovereign into only destroying 8 Alliance cruisers.
That makes a Reaper a glorified dreadnought.
Dreadnoughts and cruisers with thanix cannos > Reapers.

I don't think this was a retcon.  We only saw Sovereign blow up three or four Alliance ships, and a few more were lost saving the Destiny Ascension.  Furthermore, we don't know if the 8 ships mentioned are the ones lost saving the Destiny Ascension, or throughout the entire battle (remember, whether we save the Ascension or not, Sovereign seems to destroy the same number of ships in the same cutscene).  The Alliance's light losses are simply because they came in after much of the fighting was done, and hit the geth from behind.  Sovereign itself didn't even really participate in the battle significantly - we never saw its full capabilities - didn't see it fire on the defending Citadel fleet, and by the time the Alliance fleet arrived, it was attached to the Citadel, so fighting at a disadvantage.  The Turians, however, lost something like 25 cruisers in that battle even if we do save the Ascension.

Yup, Sovereign was hardly going for a destroyed dreadnought higscore, he was rushing to try to take control of the Citadel and hoping his uber-shields would hold, the ships he did destroy we like a person swatting a flies, lift an appedage and destroy them with minimal effort. That being said, I think fast, hard hitting  frigates armed with Thanix cannons with long range dreadnought support could do a number on the Reapers.

[NoUserNameHere]

The Reapers have big enough fleet to cloud out the sun on every inhabited world; only the power of rock can save us now!

[Dark_Caduceus]

Macguyver!!!!

[Deflagratio]

My personal theory is that they have some kind of "Hub". Similar to the geth. The Citadel Darkspace Relay connects to the hub, when the Reapers finally breach the galactic horizon, the Citadel relay is activated, and Shepard (and allies accumulated thus far) Storm through and attack the Reaper's Enclave. With their Enclave destroyed and no way to return to the safety of Darkspace, the Reaper threat is effectively eliminated, though the likely cost would be the current galactic civilizations, as the Reapers would be able to attack with impunity until they are shutdown from lack of energy or whatever the reason is they have to enter a hibernation beyond the galaxy's horizon.

[Deflagratio]

Marstead wrote...

I have to say with close to certainty that the whole Dark Energy Star thing is going to have to be the method at play.
What would be cool would be if the quarian discovery of the phenomenon leads to a galaxy-wide investigation that establishes some new scientific field. Perhaps the phenomenon causing the accelerated aging of Haestrom can be harnessed by the galactic community, and this is exactly the kind of discovery the Reapers were trying to prevent by forcing their civilizations to develop along predetermined lines.
If you think about it, they make clear that all eezo is a byproduct of supernovae. For the first Reapers to have had access to materials from supernovae, they either couldn't be as ancient as they claim to be, or they had some other way to obtain eezo from a star by forcing it to supernova early.
This actually makes sense because it goes hand-in-hand with the ME2 Reaper Codex entry that mentions them "devouring whole stars"--they actually cause supernovae specifically to harvest eezo.
Another big theme I noticed in both games are the constant references to Sovereign and Reapers' "massive element zero cores". "In order for it to land on a planet, it is presumed to have a *massive element zero core*." The word 'presumed' is tricky in this universe (the Citadel was presumed to be built by the Protheans), and when we go to the Derelict Reaper, its core is actually really tiny. Maybe they aren't using eezo at all, but some more efficient energy source from supernovae?
So the galactic races figure out how to harness this energy and maybe even trigger their own supernovae. This was made possible by Shepard delaying the Reaper invasion, and the technology is discovered in one of two ways based on the ME2 Ending:
Renegade: You gave the Collector Base to Cerberus, who discovers the technology on the base. They keep it for themselves and use it to both wipe out the Reapers and dominate the galaxy.
Paragon: The quarian inquiry to the mechanic develops further and along more natural lines, aided by the geth after peace is brokered. Scientists of the galaxy unite, each race plays a special role.

Something to that effect. I think that's the only semi-elegant way they can do it.

The reaper Core is actually enormous. The Original Normandy's Core is smaller than a Human's head which was around three times larger than a normal frigate's core, where the reapers is roughly the size of a Volkswagon bug. Though none of this invalidates anything you said. It's just a case in point that size is relative.

[-Skorpious-]

Easy. Get Garrus to calibrate a dreadnought.

[Computron2000]

For a actual logical conclusion with no need for plot devices, deus ex, etc, use drone systems to defeat the Reapers. Explained here http://social.biowar...5/index/1439963

However it will never be implemented because Shepard would then not be the story's focus.

Modifié par Computron2000, 04 mars 2010 - 04:37 .

[Gill Kaiser]

My prediction: Shepard collapses the Reaper's wormhole while they're still in transit, annihilating them. Harbinger, as the leader, is the first and only one to get through, and acts as the final boss. Possibly in the Sol system, or maybe near Arcturus Station.

[Neghtasro]

Sir Isaac Newton.

[Shocky123]

Neghtasro wrote...

Sir Isaac Newton.

Good point. He is the deadliest son of a b*itch in space.

Modifié par Shocky123, 04 mars 2010 - 05:15 .

[david46]

A secret society develops a sonic weapon for use by the Rachni. They sing a new song that is amplified and sent in sonic pulses at the reapers, destroying them. They melt into reaper goo.



The Blue Oyster Cult is then hailed as galactic heroes.

[Koralis]

Theory: Cerberus is the one experimenting with a Dark Energy weapon. The goal is to lure them into attacking a colonized world, then blowing out the sun. Every world they attack, they lose a reaper or two. Worlds are destroyed, but they would have been anyway, and rather than adding to the reaper population, they're being dimished.



And of course, if Cerberus has the collector technology they can hopefully intimidate the Reapers into starting with Turians, Krogans, etc... so that it's primarily those races which suffer.

[Archereon]

Ecael wrote...

according to soverin, "our numbers will darken the sky of every world" thats a lot of reapers

Must you always listen to hyperbole when conversing with the Reaper species, Shepard?

Harbinger says he would like a word with you. He appears to be troubled about a mission on preserving your body.

You guys have got it all wrong. Humanity is going to fund an expedition
into an alternate dimension, where Shepard will find and recruit the
most powerful entity in all the universes...

ANDROSS' HEAD!!!1!1

Mr. Moreau, please execute a barrel roll.

Ecael: Have you watched the final ME2 cutscene?  "Darken the skies of every world" was hardly hyperbole.