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[drwells123]

Co1in wrote...

SHEPARD: Shiala, why are you green??

SHIALA:
[snip]

Awesome.

[Asari Party]

It needs to happen...I support Shiala 110 percent. Very unique Asari I think. I mean don't get me wrong, I love Liara and all, but I want more than one Asari LI in the game. There are several things that made me like Shiala: She's uniquely beautiful among the Asari...when I saw her in ME 1 I was shocked that I had to leave her on Feros. Personally, I don't care what color she is. I may have a slight preference for purple, but only because that's how she looked in the first game. Green's good too though!



I don't see any reason why she won't be in Mass Effect 3...I mean Bioware wouldn't just put her there for nothing...if so then I would be disappointed. Some people think they did it just to tease the fans, but there's got to be more to it than that. Not to mention, why would Bioware simply hint to us that Feros colonists are having health problems and that Shiala has a thing for Shepard? Even if you can kill her in ME 1, she is one of the things that can connect all three games based on your choices.



Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I'd like to assume that some of those choices we made in Mass Effect 1 will have drastic rewards/consequences in Mass Effect 3.

[JustValiant]

Asari Party wrote...

It needs to happen...I support Shiala 110 percent. Very unique Asari I think. I mean don't get me wrong, I love Liara and all, but I want more than one Asari LI in the game. There are several things that made me like Shiala: She's uniquely beautiful among the Asari...when I saw her in ME 1 I was shocked that I had to leave her on Feros. Personally, I don't care what color she is. I may have a slight preference for purple, but only because that's how she looked in the first game. Green's good too though!

I don't see any reason why she won't be in Mass Effect 3...I mean Bioware wouldn't just put her there for nothing...if so then I would be disappointed. Some people think they did it just to tease the fans, but there's got to be more to it than that. Not to mention, why would Bioware simply hint to us that Feros colonists are having health problems and that Shiala has a thing for Shepard? Even if you can kill her in ME 1, she is one of the things that can connect all three games based on your choices.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I'd like to assume that some of those choices we made in Mass Effect 1 will have drastic rewards/consequences in Mass Effect 3.

My hopes are still there as well for Shiala's return in Mass Effect 3. Sure the missing of Feros and the decision concerning her in the comic introduction of the PS3 version was a setback, but it wouldn't be the first time that Bioware would find a positivley surprising solution to escape such a dilemma.
Beside the Feros/Thorian topic there is still the cipher: I don't want to offend Shepard but I ithink Shiala's ability to work with the cipher is - as an asari with powerful mind abilities - much stronger than that of a human.  And if Shepard really collects in ME3 all the galactic forces to find a solution to defeat the Reapers he/she cannot avoid her.

[CroGamer002]

^Holy sh*t, perfect match!



True, they are same person but it isn't easy to get a perfect shot of that.

[Xeranx]

StarMarine wrote...

Asari Party wrote...

It needs to happen...I support Shiala 110 percent. Very unique Asari I think. I mean don't get me wrong, I love Liara and all, but I want more than one Asari LI in the game. There are several things that made me like Shiala: She's uniquely beautiful among the Asari...when I saw her in ME 1 I was shocked that I had to leave her on Feros. Personally, I don't care what color she is. I may have a slight preference for purple, but only because that's how she looked in the first game. Green's good too though!

I don't see any reason why she won't be in Mass Effect 3...I mean Bioware wouldn't just put her there for nothing...if so then I would be disappointed. Some people think they did it just to tease the fans, but there's got to be more to it than that. Not to mention, why would Bioware simply hint to us that Feros colonists are having health problems and that Shiala has a thing for Shepard? Even if you can kill her in ME 1, she is one of the things that can connect all three games based on your choices.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I'd like to assume that some of those choices we made in Mass Effect 1 will have drastic rewards/consequences in Mass Effect 3.

My hopes are still there as well for Shiala's return in Mass Effect 3. Sure the missing of Feros and the decision concerning her in the comic introduction of the PS3 version was a setback, but it wouldn't be the first time that Bioware would find a positivley surprising solution to escape such a dilemma.
Beside the Feros/Thorian topic there is still the cipher: I don't want to offend Shepard but I ithink Shiala's ability to work with the cipher is - as an asari with powerful mind abilities - much stronger than that of a human.  And if Shepard really collects in ME3 all the galactic forces to find a solution to defeat the Reapers he/she cannot avoid her.

My hope is that she remains active since the renegade action concerning Shiala is seen to be quite evil and not even ruthless at all.  Especially since she asks what you will do with her and after your renegade response she accepts and kneels with her back to you for execution knowing what's coming.

[JustValiant]

All right, this gonna might sound a little harsh, but I just played the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 and somehow Bioware came up with a stupid solution to implement the Feros topic. Although Feros isn't mentioned in the comic introduction at all they kept the side mission on Ilium - only without Shiala. Instead one of the colonists is presenting the mission to you. So does this really mean to kill her in ME1 is the canon option? Because they surely and easily could have put Shiala in there instead of that nameless colonist without causing more irritation than the solution they obviously chose. Choosing the most cruel and evil decision you can make in ME1 - to shoot an unarmed and defenseless person in the back - as the "official" one feels like a slap in the face in my opinion. 

[Ramirez Wolfen]

StarMarine wrote...

All right, this gonna might sound a little harsh, but I just played the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 and somehow Bioware came up with a stupid solution to implement the Feros topic. Although Feros isn't mentioned in the comic introduction at all they kept the side mission on Ilium - only without Shiala. Instead one of the colonists is presenting the mission to you. So does this really mean to kill her in ME1 is the canon option? Because they surely and easily could have put Shiala in there instead of that nameless colonist without causing more irritation than the solution they obviously chose. Choosing the most cruel and evil decision you can make in ME1 - to shoot an unarmed and defenseless person in the back - as the "official" one feels like a slap in the face in my opinion. 

I don't think it's the canon option. I think Bioware only did that because it might have confused others who never played ME1 and never seen Shiala.

[JustValiant]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

StarMarine wrote...

All right, this gonna might sound a little harsh, but I just played the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 and somehow Bioware came up with a stupid solution to implement the Feros topic. Although Feros isn't mentioned in the comic introduction at all they kept the side mission on Ilium - only without Shiala. Instead one of the colonists is presenting the mission to you. So does this really mean to kill her in ME1 is the canon option? Because they surely and easily could have put Shiala in there instead of that nameless colonist without causing more irritation than the solution they obviously chose. Choosing the most cruel and evil decision you can make in ME1 - to shoot an unarmed and defenseless person in the back - as the "official" one feels like a slap in the face in my opinion. 

I don't think it's the canon option. I think Bioware only did that because it might have confused others who never played ME1 and never seen Shiala.

But is it less annoying to meet a colonist of a colony you didn't even heard before and to be confronted with a problem (the Thorian) you never heard before? Furthermore - even in the PC and XBox version Shiala gives Shepard a short introduction of who she is - in case he had forgotten her her. If Bioware really left her out to avoid irritation, they chose a unlogical way in my opinion.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

StarMarine wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

StarMarine wrote...

All right, this gonna might sound a little harsh, but I just played the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 and somehow Bioware came up with a stupid solution to implement the Feros topic. Although Feros isn't mentioned in the comic introduction at all they kept the side mission on Ilium - only without Shiala. Instead one of the colonists is presenting the mission to you. So does this really mean to kill her in ME1 is the canon option? Because they surely and easily could have put Shiala in there instead of that nameless colonist without causing more irritation than the solution they obviously chose. Choosing the most cruel and evil decision you can make in ME1 - to shoot an unarmed and defenseless person in the back - as the "official" one feels like a slap in the face in my opinion. 

I don't think it's the canon option. I think Bioware only did that because it might have confused others who never played ME1 and never seen Shiala.

But is it less annoying to meet a colonist of a colony you didn't even heard before and to be confronted with a problem (the Thorian) you never heard before? Furthermore - even in the PC and XBox version Shiala gives Shepard a short introduction of who she is - in case he had forgotten her her. If Bioware really left her out to avoid irritation, they chose a unlogical way in my opinion.

It would be much better to meet Shiala on Illium (I actually wonder why Bioware didn't do that), but in some circumstances if you help her she will imply that there could be a relationship between her and Shepard. It might make people new to ME that she is romanceable and when they find put she isn't they might get irritated. I could be totally wrong but this is just a theory.

[Asari Party]

That's a beautiful picture of Shiala, StarMarine! Yeah, Bioware is so cruel to us...I mean in Mass Effect 1 they make the hottest Asari in the game a secondary character and hand us the socially awkward schoolgirl with a crush on Shepard. I mean I like Liara, she's one of my favorite asari, but she just can't compare to Shiala. Those eyes...the face tatoos...idk something just makes her amazing.



Then in Mass Effect 2 Shiala hints that she's got the hots for Shepard and I nearly jumped into the screen and shot Shepard for not saying anything and letting her walk away. It was just one of those things where you're wondering why Bioware kept one of the most unique and beautiful Asari out of our reach...it was torture I tell you.



I don't understand how some people have the stomach to kill her...I mean seriously, killing her is evil. If some people want to be Commander A**hole and kill everybody that looks at them funny or breathes their air without paying for it, then by all means let them...but for those of us who loved Shiala, I say bring her back! Every asari I like besides Aria and Liara is killable...



Though it seems like Liara is immortal lol...I am concerned that she may be the only Asari LI they let you have. If Shiala isn't in Mass Effect 3, I might record myself cutting my wrists and mail it to Bioware lol. (Just kidding about that)



I would drop every LI in half a second if Shiala joined my team.

[JustValiant]

Asari Party wrote...

That's a beautiful picture of Shiala, StarMarine! Yeah, Bioware is so cruel to us...I mean in Mass Effect 1 they make the hottest Asari in the game a secondary character and hand us the socially awkward schoolgirl with a crush on Shepard. I mean I like Liara, she's one of my favorite asari, but she just can't compare to Shiala. Those eyes...the face tatoos...idk something just makes her amazing.

Then in Mass Effect 2 Shiala hints that she's got the hots for Shepard and I nearly jumped into the screen and shot Shepard for not saying anything and letting her walk away. It was just one of those things where you're wondering why Bioware kept one of the most unique and beautiful Asari out of our reach...it was torture I tell you.

I don't understand how some people have the stomach to kill her...I mean seriously, killing her is evil. If some people want to be Commander A**hole and kill everybody that looks at them funny or breathes their air without paying for it, then by all means let them...but for those of us who loved Shiala, I say bring her back! Every asari I like besides Aria and Liara is killable...

Though it seems like Liara is immortal lol...I am concerned that she may be the only Asari LI they let you have. If Shiala isn't in Mass Effect 3, I might record myself cutting my wrists and mail it to Bioware lol. (Just kidding about that)

I would drop every LI in half a second if Shiala joined my team.

Thanks for the support! Yep, concerning Mass Effect 3 I somehow share your fears concerning another Asari in the squad or Shepard's bed. Lias has become some sort of - at least in a fan supported way - dominating character, that the chances for similar looking LI could be rather slim. On the other hand Liara's chances to join Shepard as a squadmember in ME3 are not such big either if you consider her role as the new shadowbroker (which seems to be 24-h-job). So, after Samara will quite surely retake her role as a justicar and won't be able to accompany Shepard,  there might be hopes for a new asari squad member, but after Bioware's neglectence of Shiala I fear that she was sacrificed by the writers (or they do a very good job in deceiving. 

[Asari Party]

Yeah, from what I've seen Bioware isn't going to let us love up a blue woman unless her name is Liara T'soni. Not that it's a bad thing, but there's a lot of other special blue women in the galaxy that they like to tease us with. Like Aria, Samara, etc. However, even if we can only have one blue woman...there's still a chance we might be able to love up our favorite green asari though...which I hope for.



Who knows what Bioware will do with the LI's in ME3. I suppose it depends on which squad members stay and which ones become cameos. With Liara being the Shadow Broker, I don't see how she could team up with you unless she left Feron to take care of it until she returned...though that doesn't really seem likely Imo. Samara will most likely play a cameo role in ME3. She may stay with you if you tried to woo her. It's all up in the air until we play the game I suppose.



There's just no way of telling what the writers will do at this point due to all the possibilities the first two games can create. Hell for all we know they could end up making a new Asari for our team that blows every other one we have ever seen out of the water...she could be as good looking as Shiala...as powerful as Tela Vasir and as cool as Aria...or maybe they'll do an archangel style mission. Though I doubt they'd do that unless that Asari was a bad guy that I had to kill...Ironic how they force us to kill all the cool Asari I'd have loved to team up with...R.I.P. Tela...



With the colonists having health problems...there is a possiblity that some criminals or cerberus may get involved at Zhu's Hope and Shepard saves Shiala. Sadly, there is still a chance that they will sideline Shiala and bring in more human LI's...or none at all. That would make me extremely sad in the pants.



Liara and Garrus, and Tali, are the only LI's I like at this point. I don't care for any of the human LI's. Ashley's got something to prove, Miranda's a know it all in a catsuit, Jack's ok...but not really love interest material, Carth...I mean Kaiden is too passive...he's still got a chance though, and Jacob...LOL "The Priiiiiize" There's a huge debate on whether or not they should be expanded or throw in more people for Shepard the galactic heart throb. I'm not asking for a lot...just give me one more Asari LI in addition to Liara...hopefully Shiala and I'll be Gtg.

[Aloren]

Hello, I'm new here...

That's really a bad news if Shiala isn't in the PS3 version of the game, well, we can't know whether or not she'll be present in ME3, but that's a bad sign.

That's a pity if she's not, she has everything, she's beautiful, she's powerful yet not so powerful that she cannot be a companion, she seems to have an interest for shepard, she's very unique (her color, her past with Benezia, the Thorian) which gives the writer plenty of opportunities to develop her character... in fact she's (imo) the only really believable Asari companion we know of for ME3 : Both Liara and Aria are way too "powerful" to spend a lot of time with Shepard. And Morinth and Samara would have no reason to stay with shepard in ME3, you cannot romance them, and their "jobs" doesn't really push them towards teamwork.



Then there was Tela Vasir, she would have been so great... but she's so dead instead... so there's only Shiala.

[Asari Party]

I mean an Asari Spectre...I was impressed by Tela...it's a shame she had to die. I wanted one of those "Stop being stubborn and take this medigel" Paragon moments. I wouldn't have let some of the bosses die in this game. Sadly, I had to kill Captain Enyala on Miranda's loyalty mission too...when she dissed Miranda's outfit I wanted to high five her.

You're right about Liara and Aria though. Omega's queen and the Shadow Broker don't really seem like people who've got tons of free time to go cruising the galaxy with Shepard. It'd be kind of cool to go places with the Pirate Queen of Omega at your side, but that seems unlikely unless Omega gets shafted by the reapers or something. Also with Samara leaving/dying...there's going to be a lack of an Asari on our team.

It's very likely that we will have a new Asari team mate...at least I hope so. Though, due to the concern about people who killed Shiala, they might just make a brand new one...I don't know how I feel about it yet though. Also...if I have to kill Shiala because of some Thorian parasitic spore bull**** I'm going to be furious.

[Aloren]

Enyala was awesome. Like when you stop Miranda from killing her buddy and she's like "I don't want to see you ever again", and Enyala shoots the guy and says "done", that was hilarious...

Anyway, making a brand new Asari teammate instead of Shiala just because some people potentially killed Shiala in the first game would be a pity (though I'm sure I'd like the new one as well). I mean, all of your teammates except Liara can be potentially dead, so it's not like Shiala would be an exception. And if most of our decisions are just rendered insignificant because other players potentially didn't play the other 2 games, then that's a terrible waste.

Having shiala as a potential teammate that you can only have if you spared her in the first game would be a significant reward for a moral decision, and it would give players a sense that their decisions do have an impact. Wouldn't you love to see the face of players who were Renegade just for the sake of being renegade in the 1st game realize that they cannot have a teammate because they executed her thinking she was just an insignificant secondary character ?

Modifié par Aloren, 24 janvier 2011 - 02:08 .

[JustValiant]

Aloren wrote...

Enyala was awesome. Like when you stop Miranda from killing her buddy and she's like "I don't want to see you ever again", and Enyala shoots the guy and says "done", that was hilarious...

Anyway, making a brand new Asari teammate instead of Shiala just because some people potentially killed Shiala in the first game would be a pity (though I'm sure I'd like the new one as well). I mean, all of your teammates except Liara can be potentially dead, so it's not like Shiala would be an exception. And if most of our decisions are just rendered insignificant because other players potentially didn't play the other 2 games, then that's a terrible waste.

Having shiala as a potential teammate that you can only have if you spared her in the first game would be a significant reward for a moral decision, and it would give players a sense that their decisions do have an impact. Wouldn't you love to see the face of players who were Renegade just for the sake of being renegade in the 1st game realize that they cannot have a teammate because they executed her thinking she was just an insignificant secondary character ?

Yep, You already got a reward for sparing the rachni queen by knowing that she will join you in your fight against the collectors. I allways thought that Shiala's biotic instability and her thorian/indoctrination background would have a positive impact in ME3. Should the potential of the collected  experience of her regarding the cipher, the overcoming of both the indoctrination and the thorian thralldom just be wasted?

[DrSpoonbender]

Mass Effect 3 represents the climax for this very involved an intricate story. I can’t see the story as being nearly as exciting if it doesn’t work to resolve and reward the many choices that the player has already made in the prior two installments.

As important as an event as sparing/executing Shiala was made to feel it has relatively little impact since that time. There is alot invested in her character in terms of story; her background with the Reapers and Protheans and with ME2 her seeming transformation.  This continues to keep her relevant to the greater story.

I don’t want to see a whole new cast of characters for ME3 because we are concluding our story. What I expect are those characters that we kept alive and on good terms would be joining us in this final installment, so we can seek resolution with the many faces we gotten to know.

This is the crown jewel of the Mass Effect series so I think Bioware is working hard to allow the player to customize his/her story. That is why I appreciate the vocal and ardent support that Shiala often receives here on the forums.

Only time will tell, but I continue to be hopeful.

Modifié par DrSpoonbender, 25 janvier 2011 - 01:43 .

[Asari Party]

Ericzio wrote...

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if you could have a squad full of asaris if not all for mass effect 3.

Yeah, I would most likely do that if we have more than one Asari on our team.  Though I almost always have Garrus with me, so I guess I'd have to rotate them around.  I'd sell my soul to Bioware if you're able to team up with Shiala...I mean at that point the game would explode from the sheer epicness. 
Besides Liara or Samara, I don't see any other Asari that we could recruit.  Aria is a slight possibility, though she's got less of a chance than Shiala.  On a side note... I wish I could have traded Miranda for Captain Enyala on that loyalty mission...this is how that scene should have gone:
Shepard:  "Miranda, I never want to see you again!"  *Shotgun blast*
Enyala:  "Done...now if you don't mind I've got a **** to deliver."
Shepard:  "She's all yours...by the way I could use your help for a mission."
At least that's how I would have handled it...no offense to Miranda, but her catsuit made me not like her.

Sorry to sidetrack there lol, but yeah I can't wait to see what they do in ME3 regarding our possible Asari void.

[Asari Party]

Ericzio wrote...

@Asari party
here are just some main asaris in the story
Lol yeah there is Liara, Samara/Morinth, Shiala, Elnora, Sha'ira (lol), Aria, Rana, Aethyta,
ugh yeah you get the gist of it they all could possibly be squad mates

Elnora? hmmm, I am not sure about her.  Though it would be kind of funny I won't lie...but if I wanted a young asari then I'd go for Liara.

Rana, is pretty cool but I don't think she has any combat experience...however, I do want to see her return in ME3

The Consort (Sha'ira)  That is possible.  If you recall one of the citadel news/galactic news things, they state that she may be leaving.  I don't know how I would feel about her though...she's probably got Space Aids. 

Aethyta...I would love to see her on the bar of the Normandy.  She's strong enough to be a squad mate, but I doubt she will be since she is rumored to be Liara's father. 

Samara...there's one of three things they could do with her if she manages to survive your Shepard's suicide mission:  One, she could leave if you're a renegade.  Two, if you did a paragon approach and tried to seduce her she might stay with Shepard.  Three, she returns to Asari space and/or indirectly helps Shepard.

Morinth...wasn't a popular character at all.  I liked how she was portrayed, but most people didn't seem to like her character.  I would be surprised if she stays with Shepard in any regard.  Though there's no telling what Bioware is planning for her.

Liara...Since she is the shadow broker, It seems kind of hard to imagine her directly on Shepard's team.  I'm guessing she can feed intel to Shepard and help him build his forces to fight the reapers...though I assume that certain missions...or maybe the final battle/whatever she'll come with you.

Finally, we have Shiala...JUST DO IT BIOWARE!  All the pieces are there...just put them together.

[Erasmus37]

Two points:



1. Shiala in ME1 was the most attractive female in the game to me, and Bioware really needs to let us romance an Asari that isn't light blue (is that a trait of purebloods?)



2. Unless the quarians all take their masks off in ME3 and look like Drell, I do think the ME2 universe needs more green in it, however, so a green Shiala is fine with me.



I really hope Bioware makes her a fully romanceable squad member, but even a Kelly-esque inclusion wouldd be better than nothing.

[Xeranx]

Erasmus37 wrote...

Two points:

1. Shiala in ME1 was the most attractive female in the game to me, and Bioware really needs to let us romance an Asari that isn't light blue (is that a trait of purebloods?)

2. Unless the quarians all take their masks off in ME3 and look like Drell, I do think the ME2 universe needs more green in it, however, so a green Shiala is fine with me.

I really hope Bioware makes her a fully romanceable squad member, but even a Kelly-esque inclusion wouldd be better than nothing.

I'd rather not have that.  Because of the way they treated Kelly I felt she was incredibly cheap.  That they had her do a version of a stripper dance furthers my dislike of the way she was done in ME2.  There was no respect paid to her as a character.  I'd rather not have Shiala at all than have her as some "fling".

[Asari Party]

Erasmus37 wrote...

Two points:

1. Shiala in ME1 was the most attractive female in the game to me, and Bioware really needs to let us romance an Asari that isn't light blue (is that a trait of purebloods?)

2. Unless the quarians all take their masks off in ME3 and look like Drell, I do think the ME2 universe needs more green in it, however, so a green Shiala is fine with me.

I really hope Bioware makes her a fully romanceable squad member, but even a Kelly-esque inclusion wouldd be better than nothing.

I agree...Shiala from Mass Effect 1 was the best looking female I've seen so far.  That's saying something because I thought Miranda, Aria, and Liara (in LotSB) were smoking hot, but they lacked the unique beauty that Shiala's face tatoos show...and her eyes were great as well.  Shiala should have been a LI from the start.  Though I suppose the reason they didn't do that is so she wouldn't outshine Liara in the first game. 

I would be kind of disappointed if they did a Kelly fling with her...I mean don't get me wrong, I would love to see her in any regard in the next game, but It wouldn't be the same.  I'm hoping for some conversation wheel option where you can take her up on that offer of hers...

If Bioware finds a way to get her killed whether it be from the Thorian health problems/spores/whatever then I will be very disappointed.

[LuxDragon]

Dunno if this has been posted here, but this made me smile.



cr: eleganceliberty

Modifié par LuxDragon, 03 février 2011 - 05:36 .