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[Nightwriter]

And how would that work? When the character comes onto you, pull right trigger to punch them and left trigger to kiss them?

[inversevideo]

Mukora wrote...

Right, so in all of my playthroughs I have the dinner thing with Kelly, I not actually going to "romance" her, don't want Scale Itch, I just can't be arsed to feed my fish. And I noticed that no matter what I do I get Renegade points... why, exactly?

If I had to guess, the renegade points you get have to do with 'fraternization'.
You are Kelly's superior officer, and should not be going on a date with her.

If you talk to Kasumi, your date with Kelly is common knowledge, and Kasumi says word indicating she approves of your LI in Kelly.  

Since I don't believe my Kelly grrl is spreading scale itch, I have to assume any paragon points you may get, have to do with pursuing a healthy relationship, in a healthy way (though I admit to pure speculation here),

[Christmas Ape]

inversevideo wrote...

If I had to guess, the renegade points you get have to do with 'fraternization'.

You are Kelly's superior officer, and should not be going on a date with her.

Technically, the SR-2 Normandy is a civilian ship. You can date whomever you please.

[HBC Dresden]

The real reason: a dev on the forums here answered a similar question (crap! can't find link). he said that during development, they noticed there were way too many paragon opportunities compared to opportunities to get renegade points. so one quick fix among others to rebalance the system was to give some renegade and paragon points during some instances, such as this one.

[Nightwriter]

You get both paragon and renegade points because the game doesn't know what the hell to think about it. It's confused. You can hear the game muttering to itself.

"Wait, so this is a romance? It isn't a romance? Oh okay. It is a romance. But it isn't?"

"Is Shepard involved with someone? So this is cheating. Wait. It's just dinner? So it's not cheating?"

"Wait, there's a lap dance? So it is cheating."

"Wait, Shepard isn't seeing anyone else this time through? So it's not cheating."

"But it was cheating the last playthrough when Shepard romanced Liara..."

"Wait, the lap dance is optional?"

Modifié par Nightwriter, 29 juin 2010 - 04:07 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

What's with the fascination in reviving old threads lately?!

[Pacifien]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
What's with the fascination in reviving old threads lately?!

Maybe the search function is actually working for once.

Won't work for me, though.

[Dusty Everman]

Noilly Prat wrote...

I guess it comes out even if it's equal amounts Paragon and Renegade points. I've noticed there are a lot of little actions throughout the game that give you both. I figure it's just a little bonus to all around negotiation skills as a reward for interacting with characters.

Bingo.  When you get equal amounts of paragon and renegade, it is more like saying "+ to persuade".  Persuing a relationship with Kelly, be it friendly or romantic, helps both renegade and paragon Shepards.  If you are a paragon Shepard, it doesn't hurt to get renegade points as long as it doesn't tip the scale the other way.  Getting equal points in both will never tip the scale.
We thought about having the GUI notification say "+5 Persuade (Paragon and Renegade)" to help avoid confusion, but that feature didn't make it in.

[Ecael]

Dusty Everman wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

I guess it comes out even if it's equal amounts Paragon and Renegade points. I've noticed there are a lot of little actions throughout the game that give you both. I figure it's just a little bonus to all around negotiation skills as a reward for interacting with characters.

Bingo.  When you get equal amounts of paragon and renegade, it is more like saying "+ to persuade".  Persuing a relationship with Kelly, be it friendly or romantic, helps both renegade and paragon Shepards.  If you are a paragon Shepard, it doesn't hurt to get renegade points as long as it doesn't tip the scale the other way.  Getting equal points in both will never tip the scale.
We thought about having the GUI notification say "+5 Persuade (Paragon and Renegade)" to help avoid confusion, but that feature didn't make it in.

I knew it!

[Fiery Phoenix]

Smart color choice, Ecael.