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[Snowraptor]

So im doing me 2 suicide mission and i have it all planned out for people to die and live, so here i am, thane jack and jacob are dead, okay, im at a good start to my dark file, so, i only have zaeed and garrus and tali and legions loyalty, okay, there the only ones i want to live, okay, so then i take samara as biotic specialist and bring zaeed with me and miranda, cause i wanted miranda to die before we got the the other side, but Zaeed died... okay, maybe she has to be the second person to choose, so i made zaeed the first squad and miranda the second... zaeed dies... okay so how about i make her the distraction team leader, she doesnt have loyalty, well, i hear her having bad trouble as leader, sounds like shes gonna die... nope her non loyalty towards me helped her live, so i tested this with zaeed as distraction team leader, he has loyalty, what happens, yup u guessed it, zaeed died... okay, well i think im going to make her fire team leader, seeing she has no loyalty, ill inform you all if she lived or die... im guessing shes going to live. ill look for any possible death for her. one that doesnt have her being killed by collectors at the gate or dieing after the last boss, thats not how i want this, and if bioware has her live every single assignment THAT I assigned her to and letting you know she has NO Loyalty and lives it all besides after the last boss and holding the line at the gate, then I must ask myself... WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF DOING HER LOYALTY MISSIONS!!!??? Only she can survive it all, or is she just scripted to live everypart in the suicide mission because Bioware figured we all loved her sooo much, but if tali and legion dont have loyalty on the ventilation shaft they die, but no Miranda. Yup that makes sence.

[Snowraptor]

Does anyone think this is BS, i think it is. Totaly pointless in doing her Loyalty mission, unless you want her second costume, then she doesnt matter at all.

[Gavinthelocust]

Miranda is genetically perfect, dying would be such a waste.

[JRCHOharry]

Miranda as second fire team leader should fail.

I hope you fail at failing.

[jlb524]

Take an unloyal Miranda with you to fight the final boss and she'll die. That's how I'm going to kill her in my current playthrough.

[SelphieSK]

That's because she has dialogue throughout the mission. If you want to kill her that bad, take her with you to the final boss fight.

[SelphieSK]

JRCHOharry wrote...

Miranda as second fire team leader should fail.
I hope you fail at failing.

Lol, actually she survives that.

[Akeashar]

You have to do Miranda's Loyalty mission! Its the only time you get to hear the elevator music from ME1!

[Snowraptor]

im trying to get Legion Garrus and Tali. My point is why bother doing her Loyalty mission if she wont die anyother way. Oh and i know i wont fail because legion already made it back safley with survivors, except for miranda, i forgot shes perfect, ofcourse she says she isnt but she is, bioware must of thought everyone would have fell for miranda cause shes perfect. Yet shes not, but at the same time is.

[Skilled Seeker]

Yeah the only way to kill her is if she's disloyal and you take her with you to fight the Reaper Human Fetus.

[Vamp44]

I'm biased so..my answer is obviously going to be "No I don't find this to be bull****."

[Snowraptor]

and unless you read, i gave her every single assignment that anyone esle can fail but HER. WOW, well thats too bad, oh well, guess ill have her die when she holds the line against the collectors. And shes and once again i only need Legion Tali and Garrus to survive, im trying to get only Three people to live, and wanted my big boys not skinny cheerleader miranda to die by holding the line, That right bioware, i found out you dont need to do mirandas loyalty mission to have her live and assign her to every task, shes just to perfect. Now i hate her even more. Thankx to the devs.

[FlyinElk212]

Snowraptor wrote...

WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF DOING HER LOYALTY MISSIONS!!!???

So you're saying......you WANT dat ass to die?

*Gaydar pings*

[Snowraptor]

Yeah i WANT dat ass to die, why cause i think her ass is gonna fall off her tooth pick legs everytime shes in a scene. I only want Garrus, Legion and Tali, my lover in the game to live on this file. And i found out interesting things on how only Miranda can do everyones assignment with out loyalty and live. I find that unfair too all the other squad mate. Oh wait Mirandas perfect I forgot, maybe if i strapped her to the outside of my ship the collectors will miss on purpose

[Ecael]

Snowraptor wrote...

So im doing me 2 suicide mission and i have it all planned out for people to die and live, so here i am, thane jack and jacob are dead, okay, im at a good start to my dark file, so, i only have zaeed and garrus and tali and legions loyalty, okay, there the only ones i want to live, okay, so then i take samara as biotic specialist and bring zaeed with me and miranda, cause i wanted miranda to die before we got the the other side, but Zaeed died... okay, maybe she has to be the second person to choose, so i made zaeed the first squad and miranda the second... zaeed dies... okay so how about i make her the distraction team leader, she doesnt have loyalty, well, i hear her having bad trouble as leader, sounds like shes gonna die... nope her non loyalty towards me helped her live, so i tested this with zaeed as distraction team leader, he has loyalty, what happens, yup u guessed it, zaeed died... okay, well i think im going to make her fire team leader, seeing she has no loyalty, ill inform you all if she lived or die... im guessing shes going to live. ill look for any possible death for her. one that doesnt have her being killed by collectors at the gate or dieing after the last boss, thats not how i want this, and if bioware has her live every single assignment THAT I assigned her to and letting you know she has NO Loyalty and lives it all besides after the last boss and holding the line at the gate, then I must ask myself... WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF DOING HER LOYALTY MISSIONS!!!??? Only she can survive it all, or is she just scripted to live everypart in the suicide mission because Bioware figured we all loved her sooo much, but if tali and legion dont have loyalty on the ventilation shaft they die, but no Miranda. Yup that makes sence.

Re-rerouting questions from FireWall of Text 1143 to formulate an answer.

-She cannot be sent through the vents (even though she is a Sentinel)
-She cannot be used as an escort
-She cannot be taken away by the seeker swarms and left for dead
-She can survive the shot in the gut as Second Fire Team Leader even if non-loyal
-She can survive 'holding the line' even as non-loyal (unless Mordin, Tali and Jack are not there with her)

The best way to kill her is to side with Jack during the argument (or just don't do her loyalty at all) and bring her to fight the Reaper, or leave her to hold the line by herself.

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[Snowraptor]

no im making this into an epic fight, where i only want zaeed, grunt and samara to hold the line and die trying, and have legion escort the survivors and have garrus and tali survive the boss fight, nothing else works to attempt to kill miranda, so i have no other choice but too have her die on the final fight... sigh... this really questions biowares motives on miranda, do they all love her that much? its pathetic.

[Nozybidaj]

jlb524 wrote...

Take an unloyal Miranda with you to fight the final boss and she'll die. That's how I'm going to kill her in my current playthrough.

Yep, plus you get to be there to see it personally.

[Ecael]

Snowraptor wrote...

no im making this into an epic fight, where i only want zaeed, grunt and samara to hold the line and die trying, and have legion escort the survivors and have garrus and tali survive the boss fight, nothing else works to attempt to kill miranda, so i have no other choice but too have her die on the final fight... sigh... this really questions biowares motives on miranda, do they all love her that much? its pathetic.

With that lineup holding the door, I doubt any of them are going to die (I've had non-loyal Zaeed and non-loyal Samara survive - just the two of them):

There seem to be 'defensive' tiers on who can handle holding the door as non-loyal, even on their own:

Top tier:
-Grunt
-Garrus
-Zaeed

Middle Tier:
-Legion
-Thane
-Samara/Morinth
-Jacob

Low Tier:
-Miranda
-Jack
-Tali
-Mordin

Having at least one from the top tier holding the line usually means only one is going to die (and sometimes no one).

[tonnactus]

Snowraptor wrote...
 this really questions biowares motives on miranda, do they all love her that much? its pathetic.

I fear they want her to be a squadmate in the third part....
And for those who managed to kill her,they will annoy this players with her younger clone.

[Ecael]

tonnactus wrote...

Snowraptor wrote...
 this really questions biowares motives on miranda, do they all love her that much? its pathetic.

I fear they want her to be a squadmate in the third part....
And for those who managed to kill her,they will annoy this players with her younger clone.

The former part is extremely likely. The latter part does not make much sense. Oriana wasn't raised the same way Miranda was.

[shinobi602]

Lol, I don't understand why anyone would even want any squadmate to die. Doesn't make sense lmao.

[tonnactus]

Ecael wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Snowraptor wrote...
 this really questions biowares motives on miranda, do they all love her that much? its pathetic.

I fear they want her to be a squadmate in the third part....
And for those who managed to kill her,they will annoy this players with her younger clone.

The former part is extremely likely. The latter part does not make much sense. Oriana wasn't raised the same way Miranda was.

Where miranda got her combat  and biotic training?Cerberus.
So the oriana got captured by her father.Managed to run away to cerberus.Voila, shepardt has a new cerberus cheerleader.

[shinobi602]

Snowraptor wrote...
 this really questions biowares motives on miranda, do they all love her that much? its pathetic.

And all the love for other characters supposedly is not?

[SelphieSK]

shinobi602 wrote...

Lol, I don't understand why anyone would even want any squadmate to die. Doesn't make sense lmao.

Some people love hating.

[Ecael]

tonnactus wrote...

Where miranda got her combat  and biotic training?Cerberus.
So the oriana got captured by her father.Managed to run away to cerberus.Voila, shepardt has a new cerberus cheerleader.

She hasn't. Her father probably treats her differently than he did with Miranda. Oriana wouldn't have much reason to run away to Cerberus. Judging from the e-mail she sends you, she has a different personality as well.