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woa woa woa woa, Miranda doesnt need loyalty mission to live? WTF thats horse ****


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FlyinElk212 wrote...

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WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF DOING HER LOYALTY MISSIONS!!!???


So you're saying......you WANT dat ass to die?

*Gaydar pings*

Why would you need a gaydar.....

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shinobi602 wrote...

Lol, I don't understand why anyone would even want any squadmate to die. Doesn't make sense lmao.

I never choose that **** to be my second in command.Her opening scene in the same room with tim make me distrustfull right at the start.And a lot of other things that happen in the game made me hate her.

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Ecael wrote...

She hasn't. Her father probably treats her differently than he did with Miranda.

I doubt that.Otherwise he wouldnt hire mercs to capture her.He would contact her in a normal way and told her that she was stolen away from him.He doesnt change his mentality.

Oriana wouldn't have much reason to run away to Cerberus.

She would.

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tonnactus wrote...

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Lol, I don't understand why anyone would even want any squadmate to die. Doesn't make sense lmao.

I never choose that **** to be my second in command.Her opening scene in the same room with tim make me distrustfull right at the start.And a lot of other things that happen in the game made me hate her.


Well of course you know I greatly disagree, but still, I don't really like Zaeed or Jacob all that much, that doesn't mean I'd go out of my way just to kill them lol....

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tonnactus wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Lol, I don't understand why anyone would even want any squadmate to die. Doesn't make sense lmao.

I never choose that **** to be my second in command.Her opening scene in the same room with tim make me distrustfull right at the start.And a lot of other things that happen in the game made me hate her.


Maybe after ME2 I'd trust her, but before that you want Garrus to have your back.

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Snowraptor wrote...

Does anyone think this is BS, i think it is. Totaly pointless in doing her Loyalty mission, unless you want her second costume, then she doesnt matter at all.


The costume and her Slam ability.

Just sayin'. :innocent:

Miranda shouldn't have any more chance to survive I think than anyone else, if the Bioware team are indeed datamining players' actions to see which characters are the most used/survived then they have already skewed their results with her if this is indeed the case.  Considering she has a constant smirk on her face that makes you really want to hate her they should definitely not have done this. :whistle:

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shinobi602 wrote...

Lol, I don't understand why anyone would even want any squadmate to die. Doesn't make sense lmao.


There are people who are trying to kill off teammates deliberately because they feel the 'mission doesn't mean anything' if they don't lose some of them, due to it being called a suicide mission.  Not me, I see it as people going "You can't do it, it's SUICIDE!" with Shepard retorting "Hey, I'm the Shepard!" *cue sunglasses* but that's just my opinion.

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shinobi602 wrote...


Well of course you know I greatly disagree, but still, I don't really like Zaeed or Jacob all that much, that doesn't mean I'd go out of my way just to kill them lol....

Well,when discussing something like the cerberus attack on the quarians, jacob didnt say such stupid things like:"It wasnt personal".
It there would be other ways to get rid of her without make her die,it would be welcome.But the game doesnt give you this choice.So of course "dat ass" has to die.

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I have to agree with sinobi on this one why would you want someone to die doesnt that kind of defeat the point of being the leader of this mission after successfully doing the mission the next important thing for a leader to make sure everyone makes it out safe



Side note Garrus has no backbone in standing up to Shepard I trust Garrus and such but since he views Sjeaprd so high he never question him or have the balls to do so so on that note Garrus sould suck as a second in commend

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Why is it that players are so determined to get certain characters killed? Even if you don't like the character you can just pester them in the next game instead of having them die uneventfully.

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tonnactus wrote...

Ecael wrote...

She hasn't. Her father probably treats her differently than he did with Miranda.

I doubt that.Otherwise he wouldnt hire mercs to capture her.He would contact her in a normal way and told her that she was stolen away from him.He doesnt change his mentality.

Oriana wouldn't have much reason to run away to Cerberus.

She would.


Didnt Miranda steal her away when she was only an infant? Meaning her father never got the chance to treat her the same way.

I think the chances of her ever being a squad member are zero. Why not just invited everyones relatives along? Jacobs dad was in the military, perhaps he will replace Jacob if he is dead.

I'm also in the camp of not finding it unfair at all that she has more chance of surviving, but im biased too.

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Think of Peter Griffin saying the title to this thread....it made me laugh.

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Why the hell are you complaining about extra content in a game?

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Azint wrote...

Why is it that players are so determined to get certain characters killed? Even if you don't like the character you can just pester them in the next game instead of having them die uneventfully.


It's a roleplaying game...hence you can make your own story. Chastising someone for exploring an aspect of the game is real mature. I myself have a ton of imports ready and on at LEAST one of them I will have only my favorite characters Tali, Garrus, Legion, and Mordin survive. Is it cuz I hate all the others? No, I just don't want my ME2 imports to all be the same.

If your canon Shepard has dead ME2 squadmates, THEN I don't understand.

Also if Miranda does die, you guys think her sister will be her replacement? That's pretty intriguing....

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shinobi602 wrote...

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 this really questions biowares motives on miranda, do they all love her that much? its pathetic.


And all the love for other characters supposedly is not?

um miranda is the only character that can survive anything in the suicide mission without needing her loyalty, that pretty much sums up there love for her over every other character in the game

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Hammer6767 wrote...

Think of Peter Griffin saying the title to this thread....it made me laugh.


Haha I think you just won this thread.

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Snowraptor wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

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 this really questions biowares motives on miranda, do they all love her that much? its pathetic.


And all the love for other characters supposedly is not?

um miranda is the only character that can survive anything in the suicide mission without needing her loyalty, that pretty much sums up there love for her over every other character in the game


And she's got Warp and Overload and Squad bonuses that nobody else gets and Slam. So yeah, bloody favoritism :innocent: that's why I don't use her; If I beat Insanity without Miranda I'll feel like I accomplished more.

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oh just beat the game, with legion tali and garrus living, and only had grunt miranda and zaeed hold the line, oh and ONLY zaeed had his loyalty out of the three, thats it, i have to make another file and not use talis upgrades, then i take tali and legion with me to fight in the garage, then thane dies, then some one gets speared, then ill rethink me killing off my entire squad except for legion tali and garrus

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Snowraptor wrote...

oh just beat the game, with legion tali and garrus living, and only had grunt miranda and zaeed hold the line, oh and ONLY zaeed had his loyalty out of the three, thats it, i have to make another file and not use talis upgrades, then i take tali and legion with me to fight in the garage, then thane dies, then some one gets speared, then ill rethink me killing off my entire squad except for legion tali and garrus

If you take Tali and Legion to fight the Oculus with no Normandy upgrades:

No Shield - Jack dies
No Armor - Thane dies
No Weapons - Garrus dies

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and IF THAT DOESNT WORK, ill shoot my self in the face and hopefully wake up in a comma and see that only legion tali and garrus lived

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Yes I agree with you OP. I kill her off every time, but it is insulting (at least IMO) that the Cerb cheerleader can survive practically everything when the other "elite" handpicked specialists can die so easily.

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shinobi602 wrote...

Lol, I don't understand why anyone would even want any squadmate to die. Doesn't make sense lmao.


I hear you... but on my first playthrough I sent Tali in the Pipes...  and I actually cheered when she got the head shot.   I found her voice so annoying telling me she was getting too warm in the Pipes.  I mean... she was complaining before the bar was even half way down.  ( I think I also resented having to take her along on Mako missions to open capsules in ME1... and that resentment carried over)

Aside from her though, I wanted to keep all of my characters alive... as I grew attached to most of them (Well, maybe not Jacob, but he seemed like a good honest guy... I respect that).  

I can understand a distate for Miranda as her Personality design is to be initially arrogant, confident, dismissive, etc.  In the end though... she was prob my fav character for tactical in-game use (invaluable at higher difficulties), eye candy, voice acting, and character story/development.  I would put her with Zaeed and Legion as the three squd mates that I would have to keep.  

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Snowraptor wrote...
this really questions biowares motives on miranda, do they all love her that much?

What you mean to say is, "This really calls into question Bioware's motives concerning Yvonne Strahovski, did they really have to pay her that much?" 

They plan on bringing her back in ME3, so she has a high chance of survival. That's my assumption.

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Modifié par Ecael, 03 mars 2010 - 11:37 .