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woa woa woa woa, Miranda doesnt need loyalty mission to live? WTF thats horse ****


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these kind of thread for a chacrter crack me up because mostly what they do is let Bioware know they did a great job as im sure Bioware wanted to make characters thatpeople had strong emotions too either they wanted people to strongly like or hate them, I kind of like Jacob but i feel bad cause thier so many people that either dont care about him or dislike him.

then you have charcters from ME1 like Tali and Garrus that people got strongly emotionally about and they got moved to the second game, like it or not Miranda is one of the characters from ME2 that are like the Tali or Garrus of ME1 odds are people shes coming back in ME3 and not cause she cant die as its been pointed out she can but cause she has a high amount of fans and people are strong emotionally about her chacrter good and bad

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The Angry One wrote...

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this amuses me for some reason.

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Apparently she can die in the seeker swarm:







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no. i never made her sad. i made her dead

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Azint wrote...

Miranda refuses to die. Simple explanation.
She's tough as nails and you hate that?

its called scripted too live. only she has that power. i really hope they dont do this too some other character in me 3, where they are scripted too live.

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keegdarv1 wrote...

these kind of thread for a chacrter crack me up because mostly what they do is let Bioware know they did a great job as im sure Bioware wanted to make characters thatpeople had strong emotions too either they wanted people to strongly like or hate them, I kind of like Jacob but i feel bad cause thier so many people that either dont care about him or dislike him.


This is the truth. The reason I don't like her is because I simply don't usually like those types of characters. I won't deny that had the character been poorly executed, I wouldn't have cared one way or another.
So basically, she's well written enough that I want her gone. :P

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What might sound strange is that in my first play-through she was the only one to die. I did everyone's loyalty missions but Legion's, but in the Jack/Miranda argument I sided with Jack. I never had enough persuade to win Miranda over later on. On the final mission she died holding the line (when Joker said, "All survivors are onboard" the camera panned past her corpse). Everyone else survived; even Legion.

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[quote]keegdarv1 wrote...

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Snowraptor wrote...

Azint wrote...

Miranda refuses to die. Simple explanation.
She's tough as nails and you hate that?

its called scripted too live. only she has that power. i really hope they dont do this too some other character in me 3, where they are scripted too live.


Mass Effect uses a sort of collaborative writing process. That is a developer-player collaboration. Not everything is within your control. Obviously Bioware has plans for her, and they may have shielded characters in ME 3 aswell. The fact that a character is alive doesn't bother me. I'd be more worked up about someone being dead if I wanted them alive.

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ToshiStation38 wrote...

Snowraptor wrote...

Azint wrote...

Miranda refuses to die. Simple explanation.
She's tough as nails and you hate that?

its called scripted too live. only she has that power. i really hope they dont do this too some other character in me 3, where they are scripted too live.


Mass Effect uses a sort of collaborative writing process. That is a developer-player collaboration. Not everything is within your control. Obviously Bioware has plans for her, and they may have shielded characters in ME 3 aswell. The fact that a character is alive doesn't bother me. I'd be more worked up about someone being dead if I wanted them alive.


You're reading too much into this.  Miranda has dialogue that isn't replicated by anyone else in the cast during the suicide mission.  You cannot kill her before she's finished her lines(right as you pick your squad for the final boss).  She is fully capable of dying after that, either during the 'hold the line' part, probably requires a total loss of everyone, or if she's unloyal and with you after the boss fight.  That's it.  There's no 'grand purpose in ME3'.  No squadmate in ME2 will have a critical role in ME3 because some people will get them killed, period.

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CmdrFenix83 wrote...

ToshiStation38 wrote...

Snowraptor wrote...

Azint wrote...

Miranda refuses to die. Simple explanation.
She's tough as nails and you hate that?

its called scripted too live. only she has that power. i really hope they dont do this too some other character in me 3, where they are scripted too live.


Mass Effect uses a sort of collaborative writing process. That is a developer-player collaboration. Not everything is within your control. Obviously Bioware has plans for her, and they may have shielded characters in ME 3 aswell. The fact that a character is alive doesn't bother me. I'd be more worked up about someone being dead if I wanted them alive.


You're reading too much into this.  Miranda has dialogue that isn't replicated by anyone else in the cast during the suicide mission.  You cannot kill her before she's finished her lines(right as you pick your squad for the final boss).  She is fully capable of dying after that, either during the 'hold the line' part, probably requires a total loss of everyone, or if she's unloyal and with you after the boss fight.  That's it.  There's no 'grand purpose in ME3'.  No squadmate in ME2 will have a critical role in ME3 because some people will get them killed, period.


Why not? If she dies, then people in ME3 should have a disadvantage.

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CmdrFenix83 wrote...

You're reading too much into this.  Miranda has dialogue that isn't replicated by anyone else in the cast during the suicide mission.  You cannot kill her before she's finished her lines(right as you pick your squad for the final boss).  She is fully capable of dying after that, either during the 'hold the line' part, probably requires a total loss of everyone, or if she's unloyal and with you after the boss fight.  That's it.  There's no 'grand purpose in ME3'.  No squadmate in ME2 will have a critical role in ME3 because some people will get them killed, period.


Fair enough, but she has a reduced chance of dying. That does give her a leg-up over the competition, not that that means a whole lot. And I doubt any squadmate will have a critical role in ME3, whether they'ree from ME1 or ME2. This isn't me being butt-hurt over ME1 squadmates in ME2, because I didn't care about that. I just mean that it's very doubtful any former squadmate will impact the main plot.

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ToshiStation38 wrote...

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

You're reading too much into this.  Miranda has dialogue that isn't replicated by anyone else in the cast during the suicide mission.  You cannot kill her before she's finished her lines(right as you pick your squad for the final boss).  She is fully capable of dying after that, either during the 'hold the line' part, probably requires a total loss of everyone, or if she's unloyal and with you after the boss fight.  That's it.  There's no 'grand purpose in ME3'.  No squadmate in ME2 will have a critical role in ME3 because some people will get them killed, period.


Fair enough, but she has a reduced chance of dying. That does give her a leg-up over the competition, not that that means a whole lot. And I doubt any squadmate will have a critical role in ME3, whether they'ree from ME1 or ME2. This isn't me being butt-hurt over ME1 squadmates in ME2, because I didn't care about that. I just mean that it's very doubtful any former squadmate will impact the main plot.


Expect Liara.

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Yeah well Liara's gone all Darth T'Soni on us, she doesn't count.

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The Angry One wrote...

Yeah well Liara's gone all Darth T'Soni on us, she doesn't count.


This

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Why not? If she dies, then people in ME3 should have a disadvantage.


You're welcome to assume, but I guarantee none of the squadmates in ME2 will have crucial roles in ME3.  I expect to see them all again, but I bet none of them will effect ME3 any more than Wrex effected ME1(ie, not at all). 

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CmdrFenix83 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Why not? If she dies, then people in ME3 should have a disadvantage.


You're welcome to assume, but I guarantee none of the squadmates in ME2 will have crucial roles in ME3.  I expect to see them all again, but I bet none of them will effect ME3 any more than Wrex effected ME1(ie, not at all). 


Um Wrexs death effected the Krogans big time, with Wrex he is making the Korgans stronger while his broodbrother was a douche and is just going to drive the Korgans to the ground. That can cause dire consquances for ME3.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Why not? If she dies, then people in ME3 should have a disadvantage.

Why?What value should she have in Mass Effect 3? In Mass Effect 2 it was Wilson who has the knowlegde to revive shepardt.She was just the manager.

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CmdrFenix83 wrote...

ToshiStation38 wrote...

Snowraptor wrote...

Azint wrote...

Miranda refuses to die. Simple explanation.
She's tough as nails and you hate that?

its called scripted too live. only she has that power. i really hope they dont do this too some other character in me 3, where they are scripted too live.


Mass Effect uses a sort of collaborative writing process. That is a developer-player collaboration. Not everything is within your control. Obviously Bioware has plans for her, and they may have shielded characters in ME 3 aswell. The fact that a character is alive doesn't bother me. I'd be more worked up about someone being dead if I wanted them alive.


You're reading too much into this.  Miranda has dialogue that isn't replicated by anyone else in the cast during the suicide mission.  You cannot kill her before she's finished her lines(right as you pick your squad for the final boss).  She is fully capable of dying after that, either during the 'hold the line' part, probably requires a total loss of everyone, or if she's unloyal and with you after the boss fight.  That's it.  There's no 'grand purpose in ME3'.  No squadmate in ME2 will have a critical role in ME3 because some people will get them killed, period.

Right. You know why this is pointless. The suicide mission is less than an hour long, you can restart the bloody game and fix your mistakes and have the game end the way you want it too. Not to mention it will probably be another two years or three untill ME3 comes out giving you plenty of oportunities to say if Miranda can be killed by seeker swarm well you now know to avoid her from being killed by them. You see, she pointlesly can survive threw anything. There is no reason why bioware would have her survive everything, and then make it possible to have her die after the boss. They for some reason made her invinceable unless after final boss. There is no reason why one character, i dont care who, for example- Legion. If they made Legion invinceable like Miranda, i would too be confused, in as too why they would do such a thing if he could be killed off only at the end. Why go through the trouble in making that character so hard too kill, and being the only character that does not need loyalty. All for what? Just so she can have that scripted line telling you "well do our best" and "lets make there sacrifice count" im only picking on miranda in this because ONLY MIRANDA IS UNABLE TOO DIE WITH OUT LOYALTY! Many of you, all just for no reason troll on here, and start spamming **** about how usefull she will be in me 3. Right, that makes no sence. Especialy since the game isnt even a done being made, maybe not even one fourth intoo the making the game. If she can still be killed and shepard live why pointlessly have her only be given 2 deaths? One is holding the line, and the other is after the final boss, but she will only die after the final boss if she has no loyalty. That is the only true aspect of the loyalty missions value in the suicide mission for that character. The others do not matter. Only Miranda gets to live through every obsticle but you inscist that im a Miranda hater and only want her to die when i cleary at the begginng of this post said i only wanted THREE survivors in ONE of the many files that i have.Image IPB

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tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Why not? If she dies, then people in ME3 should have a disadvantage.

Why?What value should she have in Mass Effect 3? In Mass Effect 2 it was Wilson who has the knowlegde to revive shepardt.She was just the manager.


and we all know how that turned out..... It was thanks to Miri that Shepard got out of there alive.

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You're welcome to assume, but I guarantee none of the squadmates in ME2 will have crucial roles in ME3. I expect to see them all again, but I bet none of them will effect ME3 any more than Wrex effected ME1(ie, not at all).


Ummm...plus the Devs have already said Liara will at least be in ME3 as a romanceable and recruitable character....so I assume so will Ash/Kaiden (depending on who died) as well....

You really should do some research before making comments like that :)

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makes me wonder if certain characters cannot die and will make it to the next game no matter what? maybe miranda is the character that has to carry over. any youtube footage of miranda dying at all?

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CmdrFenix83 wrote...
 She is fully capable of dying after that, either during the 'hold the line' part, probably requires a total loss of everyone, or if she's unloyal and with you after the boss fight. 


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makes me wonder if certain characters cannot die and will make it to the next game no matter what? maybe miranda is the character that has to carry over. any youtube footage of miranda dying at all?


I've already said that in my first game she was the only person to die. She was unloyal and died holding the line. Everyone else, even unloyal Legion survived.

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tonnactus wrote...
 In Mass Effect 2 it was Wilson who has the knowlegde to revive shepardt.She was just the manager.


Where did you arrive at this conclusion?

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Maviarab wrote...

You're welcome to assume, but I guarantee none of the squadmates in ME2 will have crucial roles in ME3. I expect to see them all again, but I bet none of them will effect ME3 any more than Wrex effected ME1(ie, not at all).

Ummm...plus the Devs have already said Liara will at least be in ME3 as a romanceable and recruitable character....


They haven't said this afaik.  Would be nice, but don't count on it.