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[Erucolindo]

Wynne: I'm flattered..

Oggy: Well I don't have the equipment for that, but whatever gets you ready..


That's not an exact quote, but it's an example of the kind of hilarious dialogue you get from him. His personal quest was great.

I'm glad he's coming back, so why are so many people not?

I've heard it's cause he wasn't very deep or some such?  Does every character really need so much depth. He's simple. He likes fighting and drinking with a side of woman. He was also a tragic figure in a sense. Abandoned by his wife and House, dumped for another woman.

It's nice to have someone simple and with such great lines.

Is it cause he's just another warrior. I admit there are like ten of those and literally two mages, one of which gets delegated a healer.

So why all the Oggy hate?

[Emerald Melios]

Mostly I'm just disappointed that Leliana isn't a companion again.

[Patriciachr34]

I just can't ever seem to get his approval over 83 or so, even on my dwarf rogue.  I guess I don't speak drunken dwarf good enough.

Modifié par Patriciachr34, 04 mars 2010 - 12:05 .

[Kimarous]

I think it's less that people hate Oghren and more that people are embittered that he's returning instead of their own favourites like Morrigan, Leliana, or Zevran.



Personally speaking, the only reason I didn't bond with Oghren so much is because A) I got him late in the story, and it seemed that, outside of the Deep Roads and his personal quest, he didn't receive the same level of development as many other characters. I think his inclusion in Awakening is a good thing, allowing for his character to receive a much-needed boost.

[Erucolindo]

scyphozoa wrote...

its not that people hate him, its that they are upset their favorite character isn't being brought back in his place.
i like his character, he is very funny. i personally don't know who i'd want back more than him because i liked all the characters a lot. i suppose i would prefer shale to oggy.

That I can understand. One of these days Bioware is gonna have to find a way to let people choose one companion from a previous game in a series to return, then everyone wins. However, that would be expensive.

I suspect that David  Lucas had a thing in his contract to be used in more then one game or something like that. He's been around a while, and Bioware uses him a lot.

Still, to no play the game cause he will be there is just a bit much.

[Karl45]

I thought he was really funny as well. I don't think it's that people hate him, it's that they think they are better choices if you could only have 1 companion.(Morrigan or Alistair especially)



He's a good character, but doesn't really add much to the story and he doesn't seem as fleshed out as the other characters(more of a comic relief char). Apparently he'll have more depth this time around.

[Erucolindo]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

I just can't ever seem to get his approval over 83 or so, even on my dwarf rogue.  I guess I don't speak drunken dwarf good enough.

I don't know what I have it at now. Depending on a certain choice, you may loose ten points of approval from him. However, he's pretty easy as well. All his gifts are basically the same.

[Dave of Canada]

I got him early to try and experience the game with him, I actually liked him a lot more by the end if it. His speech at the Gauntlet was what won me over.

[Erucolindo]

As much as people like Morrigan, because of the way things end with her, it would be weird to have her show up again I'd think.



Maybe they should have had Oggy on the surface, in some pub or jail somewhere drunk instead of pulling Sten from the cage. Sten is an interesting character, but personally I barely have ever used him and he's fickle as it gets. All the crap that pisses him off seems random

[7th_Phoenix]

I'm over it... and am actually looking forward to having Oghren back as a companion. I felt he didn't have much of a role in DA:O anyway other than he was Branka's husband. I would have preferred Alistair or even Lilianna though, but Oghren's fine -- he's a great character and I'm glad he's back.

[Noir201]

I wouldn't say its hate, more like he's the cliched drunk dwarf that you see in most storys like this, i.e lotr and many others. His voice actor did a good job in da:o but he didn't have the same level of char progress as most of the old cast does, plus his flirting with wynne made you laugh but also cringe.

[Andros_Hanarak]

I don't mind at all. Because really, we do not even know what is happening after Awakenings. Who can say if other characters won't be returning later on.

[Fishy]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

I just can't ever seem to get his approval over 83 or so, even on my dwarf rogue.  I guess I don't speak drunken dwarf good enough.

at around 84 or 85 aproval he will tell you how much you're a friend for him and you will get a nice + 13 approval..

Just bring him along or give him a secondary gift.Go to the camp or not and  speak to him.

[Nerdage]

What annoys most people is that he isn't their personal favourite. Certianly there are characters I liked more, so he wouldn't be my first choice if this game where made just for me, but there wheren't any characters I didn't like (well there was one, but I wont destroy this thread by saying who) and it makes more sense to bring Oghren back than someone you can kill when you meet them the first time.

[Cuthlan]

I know all of the other companions (except Zevran, he was too annoying to use). I'm excited to see more Oghren, because he has a lot of room for growth.

[scruffyryan]

Well I dunno HOW many companions you're going to end up but it seems to me thus far they have

Tank warrior in mhari

Dps warrior in oghren

Dual wield rogue in the dwarf chick

Circle mage tradition in Anders

apostate mage tradition in Velanna



Leliana and morrigan wouldnt make sense so much if you're playing the new warden commander given their endings Wynne barely seemed to manage this kind of adventure 5 years ago, the dog seems obvious, Sten's ending doesnt really make for much of a return, Zevram was pretty attached to your old char, alistair seems to be king in the videos....Oghren is pretty much the only one who doesnt seem intrinsically tied to your old char or out of the country.

[Oronduil]

I think that quite a few people who aren't happy with Oghren returning never actually used him outside of the "Paragon of her Kind" quest. Which is precisely the reason why he's in Awakening. A lot of people seem to think that he's a cliche just because he's a drunk dwarf. What they fail to realise is that he's not as cliched as you would first think. The typical dwarf is drunk because he's happy. Oghren drinks because he's unhappy and frustrated.



In my latest playthrough I've taken Oghren for the first time as well as Shale and Morrigan. There is so much sarcasm in the air it's fantastic!

[Feraele]

nerdage wrote...

What annoys most people is that he isn't their personal favourite. Certianly there are characters I liked more, so he wouldn't be my first choice if this game where made just for me, but there wheren't any characters I didn't like (well there was one, but I wont destroy this thread by saying who) and it makes more sense to bring Oghren back than someone you can kill when you meet them the first time.

I think the thing that put me off..was the Awakening team..suggesting that we were going to see an "old returning favorite"  

That was misleading.   Simply because..it turns out it was the Awakening team's returning favorite, plus catering to a few guys in the crowd that like that cliched drunk dwarf, burping farting sort of thing.    You know..locker room humour.

At any rate..I don't hate him, but I don't like him either..call it personality clash if you will, or just call it..I wish they had done something more original with his character.

He'll be tolerated in my play-throughs, only because it's necessary...would have much rather seen Sten or another character with deeper meaningful character developpment come back...than Oghren.

And no I do not care there are no romances..this time around,  matter of fact..thank God for that, ...Oghren..eewww can you imagine?    *becomes ill*

[Nhadalie]

I honestly really like Oghren. But I like all of the npcs.

Some people don't appreciate all the humor in Dragon age.(A few actually think there's too much. Which.. I don't understand, but whatever.) Some people just didn't look to see the character beneath the jokes and liquor. And some people didn't take him along with them simply because of how late in the game you get him. Which is part of the reason why he's the "returning favorite".

You'd never be able to romance Oghren even if there were romances. Oghren is with Felsi, and has a child in Awakenings. I don't understand why people feel the need to say how gross they think it is. I thought it was hilarious when Oghren hit on you when he was drunk. Especially if you play a male character. ("I'm a MAN, OGHREN!" "Nobody's perfect.")

Modifié par Nhadalie, 04 mars 2010 - 01:21 .

[Feraele]

Nhadalie wrote...

I honestly really like Oghren. But I like all of the npcs.

Some people don't appreciate all the humor in Dragon age.(A few actually think there's too much. Which.. I don't understand, but whatever.) Some people just didn't look to see the character beneath the jokes and liquor. And some people didn't take him along with them simply because of how late in the game you get him. Which is part of the reason why he's the "returning favorite".

You'd never be able to romance Oghren even if there were romances. Oghren is with Felsi, and has a child in Awakenings. I don't understand why people feel the need to say how gross they think it is. I thought it was hilarious when Oghren hit on you when he was drunk. Especially if you play a male character. ("I'm a MAN, OGHREN!" "Nobody's perfect.")

All depends what your definition of humour is...Oghren's brand ..belongs in the boy's lockerroom.    I guess I appreciate humour that has a little more depth to it.  *wink*

[Wolfaura]

I don't hate Oghren, I found him amusing and entertaining at times. But he does get annoying. He's not my favourite though

and there are other companions I'd rather have as a returning playable companion than him.

[Erucolindo]

Nhadalie wrote...

I honestly really like Oghren. But I like all of the npcs.

Some people don't appreciate all the humor in Dragon age.(A few actually think there's too much. Which.. I don't understand, but whatever.) Some people just didn't look to see the character beneath the jokes and liquor. And some people didn't take him along with them simply because of how late in the game you get him. Which is part of the reason why he's the "returning favorite".

You'd never be able to romance Oghren even if there were romances. Oghren is with Felsi, and has a child in Awakenings. I don't understand why people feel the need to say how gross they think it is. I thought it was hilarious when Oghren hit on you when he was drunk. Especially if you play a male character. ("I'm a MAN, OGHREN!" "Nobody's perfect.")

I actually didn't speak to Oggy much after I got him in my first playthrough, for some reason I started rushing or was to focused on Morrigan or something. Boy what I missed..Oggy's drunk conversations are some of the best. I don't drink myself, so I find people who are drunk to be funny, and then there is the st uff that comes out of his mouth.All that combined with the acting talent of David Lucas.