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[Suilebhain]

Hayllee wrote...
I think we should just add Sandal as a follower with the way I see Awakening .

Suilebhain: Sandal, what are you doiing standing here in the middle of all these darkspawn corpses?

Sandal: ENCHANTMENT!

Heheh.

[knittzu]

I don't hate him, I was just disappointed that it wasn't *my* favorite who was returning. Or my second-favorite. Or my third...

If he's sobered up, I'll bring him along with my new party. If not, he'll stay parked in my camp again because I have no patience for alcoholism as a source of "humor."

[Aybeden]

Suilebhain wrote...

Hayllee wrote...
I think we should just add Sandal as a follower with the way I see Awakening .

Suilebhain: Sandal, what are you doiing standing here in the middle of all these darkspawn corpses?

Sandal: ENCHANTMENT!

Heheh.

Sounds about right!


As for Oggy, I suspect he was chosen after they decided to drop romance from Awakening. After all, who would really want to romance that boozy old bar-fly?

[Aybeden]

knittzu wrote...

I don't hate him, I was just disappointed that it wasn't *my* favorite who was returning. Or my second-favorite. Or my third...
If he's sobered up, I'll bring him along with my new party. If not, he'll stay parked in my camp again because I have no patience for alcoholism as a source of "humor."

Well, I will miss my favourite Leliana; and Zev, and Morrigan, and Wynn...

...but in a way I'd prefer it be Oggy if my warden isn't going to be able to have the same depth of relationship with his old buddies and lover(s) in this expansion - as long as they do come back restored in a future one.

Modifié par Aybeden, 04 mars 2010 - 05:17 .

[Timortis]

I don't like Oghren for the same reason I'm not into fart jokes. And I hated how he was a forced companion in DA:O. I just hope we're not going to be forced to pick him up again if we don't want to.

[silverholly83]

How is Oghren a forced companion in Origins? I've seen this a lot and I'm confused... to me a "forced companion" is one you have to have during a particular quest. You don't *have* to take him into the Deep Roads for the Branka quest, and once you do have him you can leave him in camp. I know there's an option to tell him to leave, but I don't know if he'll come back. I've heard that Morrigan will return if you tell her to go.



I liked Oghren in Origins, and I'm interested to learn more about him and hear about his little kid!

[Freezingfire]

lazuli wrote...

Here's an interesting video review that touches on some of these topics in a crude but humorous way:

www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1096-Dragon-Age-Origins

That was hilarious! And I agreed with most of it.

[Timortis]

silverholly83 wrote...

How is Oghren a forced companion in Origins? I've seen this a lot and I'm confused... to me a "forced companion" is one you have to have during a particular quest. You don't *have* to take him into the Deep Roads for the Branka quest, and once you do have him you can leave him in camp. I know there's an option to tell him to leave, but I don't know if he'll come back. I've heard that Morrigan will return if you tell her to go.

I liked Oghren in Origins, and I'm interested to learn more about him and hear about his little kid!

When Oghren walks up to you first time you try to leave for Caridin's Cross, none of the dialog options allow you to tell him to get lost and he's forcefully added to your camp. Then, during the Anvil of the Void, when you first meet Branka, he's forcefully added to your party, and you can't remove him until a new king is crowned. It's reaaaaaaly really annoying.

Modifié par Timortis, 04 mars 2010 - 06:30 .

[Raygereio]

Timortis wrote...
When Oghren walks up to you first time you try to leave for Caridin's Cross, none of the dialog options allow you to tell him to get lost and he's forcefully added to your camp. Then, during the Anvil of the Void, when you first meet Branka, he's forcefully added to your party, and you can't remove him until a new king is crowned. It's reaaaaaaly really annoying.

That's a bit of an overreaction. Oghren is only a forced companion during the last bit of the Anvil of the Void quest. Yes, he's added to your camp without your imput, but so is Alistair or Morrigan. You can just ignore them and never take them along.

[wcholcombe]

(In regard to you kissing Morrigan)

"Turn to the side a little, I have a bad angle."

(In regards to Warden's Keep)

"This whole place was a bust. The only chick here is covered in scabs and possessed. Not that that would stop me."



He is great!

[Timortis]

Whether it's an overreaction or not depends on how annoying the player finds Oghren and his "funny" lines such as "shave my back and call me an elf". I didn't like him and I didn't like being forced to take him with me, and I didn't like being forced to do the final map of the Anvil of the Void with him.

[silverholly83]

@Timortis: If I'm understanding you correctly, Oghren is forced because you can't tell him to beat it. OK, I get that now. Thank you for your patience! Have you tried switching him out of the party before you actually enter the Road? I was able to pull up the Party screen and his picture wasn't auto added and dimmed like Wynne's and Alistair's can be at times, so I switched him out and didn't use him for most of the quest. I don't know if he'll pop up once you actually get to Branka (like Zevran will with Taliesin) though. I switched him in right before encountering Branka so I could have his help for the Pragmatist achievment.

[Timortis]

Like I said, he's forcefully added right before you meet Branka for the first time and no, you can't remove him until the whole quest is done and you've crowned the new king.

[Shipwr3K]

you can take him out while doing the deep roads, however once you get to the anvil he will be put in to your group. If I can re-spec him to a shield tank I will use him on awakening, if not, I will have to carry that shield chick around.

[PSRdirector]

because he is the worst companion from the game

[Shipwr3K]

no way, zevrans fake accent is more annoying.

[BlastedLands]

at least it's annoying. the dwarf, i just ignore....

[Shipwr3K]

i mean dude, is not like isolde is a companion now.

[BlastedLands]

*ears bleeding*

NOEZ! but at least i could hate her wholeheartedly.

[Cutlass Jack]

I don't hate the Dwarf. Just on the list of all possible 'favorites,' he's probably 2nd to last for me.



About the only reason he's worth taking along is to get Felsi to tell you the story of Oghren naked wrestling the roast...and losing. ("It as a very good roast!")



But still I'd much rather have nearly anyone else. Not having Dog return is nearly unforgivable. And nonsensical.

[Wishpig]

Cutlass Jack wrote...
But still I'd much rather have nearly anyone else. Not having Dog return is nearly unforgivable. And nonsensical.

Sigh... people including the devs have already explained why dog isn't returning and their reasons are sound... it's not nonsensical, you just really really want him back. I can understand.

A. Dog can easily die in DA:O, sense he isn't easy to implant *see below* putting time and effort into a character players may not even SEE isn't worth it.
B. Dog is not easy to implant. He is very tricky to bring alive, and relys very very heavily upon party interaction to come alive. What appears to be the easiest companion to create may actually be the hardest.
C. Dog needs his own unique new skills to account for the new levels. Thats allot of new skills to create and balance and christ, how much can a dog do?

[BlastedLands]

Wishpig wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...
But still I'd much rather have nearly anyone else. Not having Dog return is nearly unforgivable. And nonsensical.

A. Dog can easily die in DA:O, sense he isn't easy to implant *see below* putting time and effort into a character players may not even SEE isn't worth it.

but that's still an argument i take as a little dodgy... there would be enough players who see [insert absent character], if you had at least a few (!) to choose. <_<

C. Dog needs his own unique new skills to account for the new levels.
Thats allot of new skills to create and balance and christ, how much
can a dog do?

it's an awesome warhound!! jeez....

Modifié par Haerja, 04 mars 2010 - 09:19 .

[MelodicCure]

I'm not using Oggy or the chick warrior ever in this game. Midgets smell funny and women can't fight. Period. Women make mages and rogues for me. So I have no idea who is going to be my fighter other than my main character. From the lack of characters it looks like I have no choice but to use two mages as it is.

[Raygereio]

Haerja wrote...
it's an awesome warhound!! jeez....

You forgot the most important fact; he's probably the most entertaining character in the game (it's called personal tast, put down the flamethrowers).

Modifié par Raygereio, 04 mars 2010 - 09:28 .

[Shipwr3K]

MelodicCure wrote...

I'm not using Oggy or the chick warrior ever in this game. Midgets smell funny and women can't fight. Period. Women make mages and rogues for me. So I have no idea who is going to be my fighter other than my main character. From the lack of characters it looks like I have no choice but to use two mages as it is.

Madness. They should be in the kitchen. 

Modifié par Shipwr3K, 04 mars 2010 - 09:43 .