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DLC online only, WTH devs? Super PO'd with the whole Cerberus Network thing


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God_Emperor

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I have the Collector's Edition for PC of ME2. I noticed when I tried to play my game offline that I got an error message for all DLCs whining about some authentication crap and of course this means none of the DLCs appear ingame if I am offline. I can't afford to be connected online for long periods of time or even on a regular basis, so I choose my SP games carefully so that at most, all I require is one of those one time online authentication when I register. I also have Steam but have to use it in offline mode for games like Left 4 dead, Modern Warfare 2 etc, because of my online difficulties.

I figured the DLC authentication messages must be something similar to the Dragon Age DLCs where after the game registers them online, I can then continue playing offline with the DLCs ingame. So I tried to run a game online as long as I could over the weekend and got over a half dozen hours over the 3 days but during this week when I tried continuing the game offline it doesn't even let me load the save game because of "missing" DLC which are sitting collecting dust installed in my hard drive. 

I received a few responses from members here telling me there is pretty much nothing I can do about this and got confirmation minutes ago from an EA tech agent who simply said: You need to be online and well then you can't use the content. WTF? Why would you put in this garbage Bioware?

I know 7 or so hours means nothing but I can't play my game again without any kind of regularity and if I do it has to be without any DLCs!

You know I wasn't disappointed as much about the mechanic changes, about the cut back on skills (Although it botheres me the most of all the design changes), the customization I could care less, but this really angers me. I am seriously disappointed in you guys and will have to consider more closely purchasing future games from you guys that have similar DRM systems restricting me from playing and SP game.

I know this may not seem like a big deal to most around here. I hope you guys (Bioware/EA) can be a little more considerate of people who can't be online 24/7 and patch or tweak or whatever to make this content playable offline.

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yup, i never expected this from bioware. i tried to load a ME2 save file that had DLC installed while I was offline. sure enough, i can't even play the game.



if i play on xbox offline it is no problem, but the pc version forces me to be online to use dlc. shame bioware, shame. don't be ubisoft, don't cripple your games.

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Erm I've played ME2 (DLC included) many times without being connected to the internet.

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duncan are you on steam? when i load up ME2 while offline it says i cannot load my save files. is there something i'm doing wrong?

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I too have played both DA:O and ME2 offline with DLC activated on the PC.

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God_Emperor

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I can play Dragon Age offline with the DLCs, after I briefly connected online and they "registered" active. But anytime I turn on ME2 offline it says:



Failure to Authenticate following DLCs:

All my DLCs



Then if I try to load the save game where the DLCs do appear it says:

Unable to load save game content missing: Normandy Crash, Zaeed.

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Varenus Luckmann

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Thank god for piracy.

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I agree with the OP. Free content of this nature should not have any DRM attached... the point of Cerberus Network is(among other things) to make content intentionally cut out of the game, available as free DLC to cut down on piracy. It should not punish players who cannot always be online.

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I'm sure someone in the modding community will find a way around this *cough* feature.

Just today alone I have seen some pretty amazing stuff coming from narfgang and sp8cer on the forums. Some very useful stuff too. I say give it time and someone will find a way around this.

I too find it annoying that I have to be online to fully enjoy my game.
-90% of the time I run steam and all games in offline mode.

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scyphozoa wrote...

duncan are you on steam? when i load up ME2 while offline it says i cannot load my save files. is there something i'm doing wrong?


I am using Steam, yes. In fact, I played through Steam's offline mode for the first week of play so as to not be distracted by the internet.

Are you offline on Steam or offline in ME2?

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message removed - delete post mods

Modifié par DemonSlayer_1, 04 mars 2010 - 02:24 .


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completely offline. i tried to play ME2 while my internet was down (time warner had tech difficulties)

and it wouldn't let me load any saved game that used DLC.



but it sounds like others have successfully navigated this? i can pull out my cable and try to load a ME2 save file right now, but can anyone clarify how or what needs to be done to load a game with DLC?

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Here is something I use, but it requires editing a file

Save and launch
when it finally sync's up it will reapply the DLC's, but until it sync's you don't need DLC's. You won't have your DLC's, but you will be able to run the game itself completely offline continuing from your last save point.

Image IPB

Image IPB

If your last save was Save_0018 make this save Save_0019

Modifié par DemonSlayer_1, 04 mars 2010 - 02:37 .


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It's supposed to do that. Online authentication is a digital rights management (DRM) scheme that is also employed, infamously, by Assassin's Creed II. Basically, you HAVE to be online to play.

Bull****, but that's the way it is. Blame EA.

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yeah ubisoft doing this to assassin's creed is a bad enough mistake. but bioware doing this to mass effect 2 is a tragedy.

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Hmm I did not know this you have the right to be royaly pissed dude.

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you can't compare this DRM with Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed DRM. At least you can still play ME2 offline (without DLC it seems). In order to play Assasins Creed you need to be connected online AT ALL TIMES, otherwise it just boots you out of the game.

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FlyingWalrus wrote...

It's supposed to do that. Online authentication is a digital rights management (DRM) scheme that is also employed, infamously, by Assassin's Creed II. Basically, you HAVE to be online to play.
Bull****, but that's the way it is. Blame EA.


What the hell are you talking about?

EA's DRM is great.  All you should have to do is connect once to DL the DLC and verify your account and all that jazz, after the initial verification you should be able to play off-line with DLC activated as much as you want (which I have done for both ME2 and DAO).  The vanilla you don't even need an internet connection at all for.

Ubisoft has instilled a horrible, horrible DRM for AC2 and their games.  You HAVE to be online if you even want to play the game at all.  If you are disconnected in the middle of a game, you are KICKED from the game and you LOSE all of your progress.

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Another reason why Consoles are superior to PC's. Don't have to deal with annoying **** like this.



That obvious troll hook intended. This is pure BS, but it's EA, what did you expect, no DRM? HAR!

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Well, apparently, that isn't the norm here. Otherwise, this thread wouldn't exist, now, would it? It might as well be the same thing, because without being online to verify your DLC, you can't open your freaking save file anyway.

Did you know that EA was originally planning to make players "renew" their DRM for ME1 for the PC every week? When this was heard about, the furor of complaints made them backpedal on that scheme.

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FlyingWalrus wrote...

Well, apparently, that isn't the norm here. Otherwise, this thread wouldn't exist, now, would it? It might as well be the same thing, because without being online to verify your DLC, you can't open your freaking save file anyway.
Did you know that EA was originally planning to make players "renew" their DRM for ME1 for the PC every week? When this was heard about, the furor of complaints made them backpedal on that scheme.


If you can't get online to verify your DLC at least once, then how the hell did you manage to DOWNLOAD the DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT?

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 04 mars 2010 - 03:19 .


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well i have connected to cerberus network dozens of times after buying/installing/playing my copy of ME2 on PC and it still makes me log online to access DLC each time i want to use it.



this really is heartbreaking to me because i consider bioware one of the smartest and culturally savvy developers in the industry. drm is so counter-intuitive to making games for players that it makes me cringe to think bioware has employed these methods.



its sad, i literally own 2 versions of mass effect 2 and would never support pirating bioware products, but this drm just makes me want to own a back up pirated version of ME2 just for when my internet dies unexpectedly.



my gaming habits are not be shackled by the internet :X

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scyphozoa wrote...

well i have connected to cerberus network dozens of times after buying/installing/playing my copy of ME2 on PC and it still makes me log online to access DLC each time i want to use it.

my gaming habits are not be shackled by the internet :X


Then it has to be a glitch on Biowares part.

Make a thread on the Technical forums and see if there is a fix, because forced persistent online connection is not "working as intended."

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Well i've noticed that I cant load my game up (360) until the cerberus network connects, but I haven't yet been in a position where I have to try and play offline.



If that day ever comes, network problems or whatever, and I can't load my save games, I will be mightily pissed off.

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There are solutions to this problem though there are ones generally employed by people who are doing something they shouldn't be and you won't find those solutions on these boards. I only mention this because you paid for the game and I remember the days of dial-up internet and Diablo. It made me sad only being able to play online around 15 hours a month.

Really though I think EA and/or Bioware should fix this. It shouldn't be necessary for paying customers to seek the help of eye patches and peg legs to play their games.