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DLC online only, WTH devs? Super PO'd with the whole Cerberus Network thing


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#26
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Ok this is weird. I bought ME2 CE retail pack and it works fine for me when I play offline. I still have access to the DLC items. All the options are on default so I have no idea why it works on mine fine and not on yours.

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Andaius20

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Hmm I can play with mt CE and DLC's just fine offline....

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If you are annoyed by DRM, I have a suggestion for you. Call or write your congressman. Ask him why the federal government, in the form of the FBI, does not put any effort into cracking down on intellectual property crime. Because you see the reason why we have DRM in the first place is that the government by and large fails to catch and punish the people who steal software, music, and movies. Thus the only way game developers can fight the legions of crooks stealing their work is by adding ever more intrusive DRM to their games. Try to imagine what a brick and mortar store would be like if physical theft were as rampant as the virtual kind. The armed guards, the frisking for weapons on the way in and the cavity search for smuggled contraband on the way out would cause people to very quickly demand a change. We need to start demanding that there be consequences for stealing software. That is the only realistic goal in the long term.

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works fine for me. just played with my infi - he's using the cerberus assault armor dlc, no problems even though i wasn't connected. like bioware said when they first released the details way back when the version you get from gamestop and other retailers only have a basic disc check. once the content is downloaded, i can play offline with whatever gear i want.

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It's the stupid online requirelents that pushes people to piracy. I read on the Escapist that Ubisoft was putting something like this in Assassins Creed 2 for the PC, requiring online full-time, or the game cuts out.



Pirates are around it in a week. Just go Pirate it and the DLC if it bothers you that much. Freakin' anti-piracy crap doesn't do squat, becuase anything can be hacked. You know the gimped Batman in Arkham Asylum that pirates got? yeah that was figured out and removed.



I'm so glad I got ME2 for the PC.

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I'm relatively sure pirates have found a way around this, so in the end this only punishes legit gamers which is a shame. It almost seems the pirates get the better working game.

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Er, I play offline, and all my DLC works.

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LOST SPARTANJLC

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If I had this for PC I'd pretty pissed too.They should have done it the Batman:AA way.Where if you pirated the game half way through the game the glide move stops functioning(where you need it to be able to get out of a certain area).

Something similar were a door's suppose to open but it doesn't and you can't continue(along with  corrupted save files).

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 04 mars 2010 - 07:39 .


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Well, this new "benefit" for the customer (meaning DLC) means that I will buy all my Bioware games used in the future (if at all) - I seriously don't want to repeat my DA experience where all my items were gone while in the Dead Trenches because the fraking DLC scheme couldn't authenticate itself. Playing ME2 without the Cerberus activation (card still sitting in the box) and I most certainly won't ever use it.



Funny thing: This definetly doesn't prevent piracy - I know of people who play ME2 with all DLC without ever having purchased it - and they don't report any problems with authentication. Once again, the pirates get a better gaming experience than us paying customers - go figure.

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I call complete sheningans. ^^ Not to belittle the problem, but this seems to be a technical glitch if anything. i can play perfectly fine while Offline with all DLC downloaded and installed. Works without a hitch.

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LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

If I had this for PC I'd pretty pissed too.They should have done it the Batman:AA way.Where if you pirated the game half way through the game the glide move stops functioning(where you need it to be able to get out of a certain area).

Something similar were a door's suppose to open but it doesn't and you can't continue(along with  corrupted save files).


Operation Flashpoint's way of fighting piracy was to slowly introduce new bugs every time the game ran until it became unplayable if it detected it was a ripped copy. 

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well as a 360 users i didnt get any of the codes minus the gamestop terminus armor. do i think its bogus pc users wont get it? of course but in generall the whole various codes at certain places needs to stop.

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Hmm well I have played with my DLC while offline, but I can understand why you would be annoyed about this. I have similar issues with Dragon Age. And although I agree it is very annoying, I think we have pirates to blame for this one, not EA or BioWare =(

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scyphozoa wrote...

well i have connected to cerberus network dozens of times after buying/installing/playing my copy of ME2 on PC and it still makes me log online to access DLC each time i want to use it.

this really is heartbreaking to me because i consider bioware one of the smartest and culturally savvy developers in the industry. drm is so counter-intuitive to making games for players that it makes me cringe to think bioware has employed these methods.

its sad, i literally own 2 versions of mass effect 2 and would never support pirating bioware products, but this drm just makes me want to own a back up pirated version of ME2 just for when my internet dies unexpectedly.

my gaming habits are not be shackled by the internet :X


It's not DRM - it's an error. If 'twere DRM, I'd have the same issue as an owner of the Steam version.

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I've got the digital deluxe version on Steam, and whilst I'm not bothered by it (I've got a constant connection), I can't play the game offline either. I disconnected my pc just to try it out and started Steam in offline mode, and whilst the core game works perfectly, none of the DLC will load if you don't have an active connection. So I can't load any saves Offline.

It's not surprising though, if I recall correctly the same applies to Fallout 3.

A workaround would be to start Steam in offline mode, connect to the Internet, start up ME2 and when it's connected to Cerberus Network, disconnect from the internet. It will work until the game is restarted.

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Stinkface27 wrote...
And although I agree it is very annoying, I think we have pirates to blame for this one, not EA or BioWare =(


Sorry but I don't buy into that - they come up with schemes where the paying customer (emphasis on paying) gets annoyed until he does no longer want to buy games from a company? And then its the pirates fault that they couldn't come up with something that actually rewards the customer instead of bugging him?

I know friends who bought games but play the pirated copy because it's more user friendly - how bizzare is that?

I quit buying games using Crapforce (sorry, mean StarForce) back then and I now have put Ubisoft games on the no-sale list as well (online requirement for offline single player - yeah, sure).

EA/Bioware are at the brink of going on the "no business" list if they continue this DLC nonsense - either I wait for the complete/gold/whatever edition that gives me all content on a disc on a later date, or they'll lose my business altogether.

I've been playing games for 25 years now, but where the market is going now - I won't follow.

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*Confused* It works offline for me?

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Lol if they think the stupid drm will stop piracy they are even dumber than a hillbilly. This just encourages people to pirate because the idiots cripple a product we pay money for hence if we didn't buy they'd be unemployed. Stupid idiot who's bright idea to invent drm people always have a way around it.

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The OP is a troll or he has a serious case of EVO.



The game works fine with all DLCs installed (well the ones i have anyway) without internet (I have a normal DVD version of the game and i tested this before writing this).



After installing the DLC you do need to contact Cerberus network to verify the DLC but you only need to do this once. After that you can play in offline mode.



OP is only trying to badmouth EA and DMR in general. And that is like trying to reason with a fundamentalist.

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Kangasniemi wrote...

The OP is a troll or he has a serious case of EVO.

The game works fine with all DLCs installed (well the ones i have anyway) without internet (I have a normal DVD version of the game and i tested this before writing this).

After installing the DLC you do need to contact Cerberus network to verify the DLC but you only need to do this once. After that you can play in offline mode.

OP is only trying to badmouth EA and DMR in general. And that is like trying to reason with a fundamentalist.


What did you do to get this to work offline? care to explain for the OP ? did you turn off your network adapter or did you remove the cable ??? maybe he did something wrong then. :?

Modifié par Michel1986, 04 mars 2010 - 07:33 .


#46
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Kangasniemi wrote...

The OP is a troll or he has a serious case of EVO.

The game works fine with all DLCs installed (well the ones i have anyway) without internet (I have a normal DVD version of the game and i tested this before writing this).

After installing the DLC you do need to contact Cerberus network to verify the DLC but you only need to do this once. After that you can play in offline mode.

OP is only trying to badmouth EA and DMR in general. And that is like trying to reason with a fundamentalist.


The OP is not a troll, I've tried this out myself and ran into the same problem. The game connects to Cerberus Network every time you start it up, if a connection can't be established the related DLC is unavailable. I'm unable to load any saves when I'm disconnected from the Internet.

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I suspect it is more of what happened with DAO. I have never had a problem using the DLC without a connection or when I was unable to connect to the cerberus network.

With DAO it was a messed up install or something along those lines. You download the DLC next time you connect it verifys then that is saved client side (on your PC) and something is not being saved properly.

I know I was reading a thread in the tech forums about just this issue. Have any of you actually gone and searched around in there for a answer? Or just decided to jump to unfounded conclusions based on your own assumptions?

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Kangasniemi

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ifander wrote...

Kangasniemi wrote...

The OP is a troll or he has a serious case of EVO.

The game works fine with all DLCs installed (well the ones i have anyway) without internet (I have a normal DVD version of the game and i tested this before writing this).

After installing the DLC you do need to contact Cerberus network to verify the DLC but you only need to do this once. After that you can play in offline mode.

OP is only trying to badmouth EA and DMR in general. And that is like trying to reason with a fundamentalist.


The OP is not a troll, I've tried this out myself and ran into the same problem. The game connects to Cerberus Network every time you start it up, if a connection can't be established the related DLC is unavailable. I'm unable to load any saves when I'm disconnected from the Internet.

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Tried it a couple of times now, and yes, I can play in offline mode. I do get the first EA warning thing but the game loads complety normal and I can play with all my DLC (Terminus armor, blackhole gun and the free DLCs). So if you have verified the DLC once you have installed them, then you should be able to play offline. Installing a DLC and not verifing it does cause an error.

Mind you, mods and tweaking the ini files may or may not cause problems in the weirdest of places.

Also this might be a "featrure" in the CE version of this game, it shouldn't be but can't verify because I only have the normal DVD version of the game.

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@Kangasniemi



If by verify you mean start the game with Internet access and DLCs installed, then yes, I have verified the DLCs.

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I heard that if you torrent the DLC's wiht out activating them via the promo code thing this will happen. Also go into options and then go into the online section and choose the "no" option and yo uwant get the error message pop up anymore and ca nplay with torrented DLC's. I've friends that have al lthe promo items and play just fine wiht out verifying them.

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