What Alignment Are You?

#76
Godak

Posté 05 mars 2010 - 08:58

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Seagloom wrote...

Sarevok Anchev wrote...

Ehm... yes... <_<
Well IF you consider it for flavor and funk, then storywise this would be a real slaughterfest of a battle.
When i remember how Halaster tried to save Elmister from the Nine Hells (or was it the Abyss? Dunno, the old fella gets almost everywhere into trouble ^^) and fought against a gazillion demons twice (!), but got pawned at the end by the masses. Well when we look that in D&D 3.5 ed rules, i dunno if they would have much possible spells against sooo many demons and devils....
BUT IF we would compare them by the newest rules (4th ed... ugh! ) THEN the hoes of Mystra would be reaaally weak and very balanced in comparison to other fleshy, sqishy Mages

But for me in 3rd ed Elmister, Simbul and co. werent THAT powerful, especially the old geezer had some different spells and this shiny light, but thats all....

Nothing can beat the Wind-Elemental Mage-Prestige class and -"insert D&D stuff-rulez i forgot :pinched:"-, who can
fly, shoot magic and fly again and that for biiiig distances

That's true. The problem is it's hard to compare them based on lore alone. Their exploits, as Elminster in Hell shows, are often embellished to entertain a reader. I remember the Simbul showing up later and her being able to nuke almost as many devils as Mystra, despite being much weaker. It was kinda silly. I did like that they had to run away from Asmodeus like cowards after momentarily fazing him though.

If I go purely by lore however, then the Circle of Eight stands even less of a chance in my opinion, because the Chosen are all literally demigods. Even those among them that aren't mages like Storm or Dove can give a mundane mage, powerful though some may be, serious trouble with their silver fire alone. At least on Toril. I doubt it'd work on another plane. At least I wouldn't rule that it did, since the Weave doesn't exist elsewhere. I'll stop here though because these sort of comparisons have no real right answer.

*Walks in*

*Walks out*

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#77
Ahisgewaya

Posté 06 mars 2010 - 12:14

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Don't forget that any story with Halaster in it has to be taken with a grain of salt. The guy's madder than a hatter (it's why I like him

). So he might have just made up the whole thing.

Modifié par Ahisgewaya, 06 mars 2010 - 12:15 .

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#78
corebit

Posté 06 mars 2010 - 04:36

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I like DnD (especially the old 2nd ed. AD&D) and the FR setting, but I never liked their alignment system. Even though it is written that alignment only serves as a guideline and not an absolute path that a player must follow, it is so one-dimensional, doesn't happen in real life, and a lot of times it doesn't make sense inside the setting (like the Mystra example). People's actions do not stick to a single alignment rigidly. One day I can be Lawful Evil, and another day I can be Chaotic Good. Most fall into the neutral spectrum and LG/CE extremes are very rare.