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[ZeroMystic]

What a complete waste of my time and money this was. I have nothing but negative things to say about this game. I am so beyond fed up with BioWares total and blatant disregard for full proper and correct instructions for anyone new to their games it's ludicrous. BioWare should not be releasing games with an unfinished tutorial system. Mass effect 2 has been a total headache and an utter nightmare for me.

This is what I have been put through with this game:
I started the game yesterday, and within the first 15 min into it, I was stuck and could not progress due to being asked to do something that is not fully and properly explained.


Problem 1:
The Dialog has a loop bug in it. you select things, and then you are brought right back to the same exact 2-4 choices every time over and over and there is no way to back otut of the dialog menus once you are in them. I was stuck in a dialog loop for over an hour trying to figure out why I kept seeing the same choices over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...you get the point. Someone watching a broadcast I was doing finally explained how to get around the dialog loop bug. patch this annoying bug!

Problem 2:
Couldn't do Powershots, Says Hold left shift, select the powershot, left click the mouse.
Well holding left shift is what I did, then there are no power shots at all anywhere on the screen that i could find if the powershot is there, it has not been explained how to dig it out of that inventory screen.

Problem 3:
Equiping the grenade launcher. Oonce again dummb instructions that only say hold left shift then select the grenade launcher. Sorry but holding left shift brings up an inventory screen that DID NOT HAVE THE ICON OF A GRENADE LAUNCHER IN IT, IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NO WHERE TO BE FOUND there was and is no grenade launcher to select, so this instruction fails because it is telling you to select a non-existant item. And yes I did pick up the grenade launcher so if the grenade launcher is in fact in there just like the powershot, it has not been explained how to dig it our of that screen in order to select it in order to equip it.

Problem 3
The pull ability,
Once again hold left shift and select the PULL ability, target an enemy, then left click,
First of all there is no instructions on where the abilities are located once the left shift inventory screen has been opened, secondly you are not explained HOW TO TARGET AN ENEMY in the first place, and finally left clicking the mouse only zooms in and shoots. So this instruction epic fails due to crucial need to know things that have been with held for some demented reason. So if this ability is in fact in the left shift screen then just like the Grenade launcher equip and the power shot problem, it has not been explained how to dig it out but also what it looks like, and how to know if it's even been selected

Problem 4
Safes,
Something about match the icons/symbols, with nodes (Or something like that) within the time limit.

EXCUSE ME There are no icons that I can see on the safes, so I don't know wtf this is all about, and not even going to get into it.

And these are all the major issues and problem causing things that are game stopping just within the 1st 15 min of game play alone. Once again, because of biowares total disregard for new players and explanations had no clue what to do and have been stuck for a day in the1st 15 min of the game.

I gave up and wish I could bring the game back to the store and get my money back.

I do not want help, I do not care about what the answer is or how to do it, so putting answers to questions I am not asking, is not only pointless but will not get read and or totally ignored because I'm not asking for help and I don' t want any, I uninstalled and got rid of this garbage.

I am simply giving my feedback on how bad of an experience this game was for me

Modifié par ZeroMystic, 04 mars 2010 - 05:28 .

[addiction21]

This space for rent!!

[DarthCaine]

Having a low IQ=/=ME2 being a bad game

Modifié par DarthCaine, 04 mars 2010 - 05:27 .

[ZeroMystic]

Having a low IQ=/=ME2 being a bad gameAs true quote you might want to learn this:

DarthCaine,
Before you or anyone else decide to try and go blame denial, and try to stick up for who caused this mess You might want to learn and live by this more than true statement:

There is no such thing as a bad student when it comes to learning, only bad teachers, a proper student does what teacher says, and if student does what teacher says, and then it doesn't work, or it's not understandable, then you cannot blame the student. The student is just doing exactly what was told to them. You can only blame the teacher, for either teaching incorrectly, and or not explaining anything properly so the student can get and or actually do it.

Modifié par ZeroMystic, 04 mars 2010 - 05:36 .

[KotOREffecT]

ZeroMystic wrote...


What a complete waste of my time and money this was. I have nothing but negative things to say about this game. I am so beyond fed up with BioWares total and blatant disregard for full proper and correct instructions for anyone new to their games it's ludicrous. BioWare should not be releasing games with an unfinished tutorial system. Mass effect 2 has been a total headache and an utter nightmare for me.

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[C6541]

DarthCaine wrote...
Having a low IQ=/=ME2 being a bad game

An opinion is an opinion and his opinion holds as much merit as anyone else.

Modifié par C6541, 04 mars 2010 - 05:41 .

[Andaius20]

I never had any trouble figuring anything out. I didn't even read the manual before jumping in either. To me the game made everything stupidly obvious. to the point that I wished those damned Cerberus Icons would stop popping up!

Modifié par Andaius20, 04 mars 2010 - 05:41 .

[DarthCaine]

C6541 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...
Having a low IQ=/=ME2 being a bad game

So disagreeing with you = stupidy? Have you heard of ignorance my friend? An opinion is an opinion and your opinion holds as much merit as anyone else.

It's not a disagreement. Just read his points. He doesn't know how to play the game

[C6541]

DarthCaine wrote...

C6541 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...
Having a low IQ=/=ME2 being a bad game

So disagreeing with you = stupidy? Have you heard of ignorance my friend? An opinion is an opinion and your opinion holds as much merit as anyone else.

It's not a disagreement. Just read his points. He doesn't know how to play the game

True, still if he feels it's a bad game that's his opinion.

[Mak89]

Huh...I never had a time when I didn't know what to do. I see you're playing on a PC. Well my console version is excellent.

[ZeroMystic]

It's not a disagreement. Just read his points. He doesn't know how to play the game

Exactly I cannot play this game or any Bioware game for that matter because it is far from user friendly for anyone new to their systems and games.

people who play their games or follow things that BioWare does, will always try to bash someone new for not understanding what has not been explained.

Happens 80% of the time, every time.

[C6541]

ZeroMystic wrote...

It's not a disagreement. Just read his points. He doesn't know how to play the game

Exactly I cannot play this game or any Bioware game for that matter because it is far from user friendly for anyone new to their systems and games.

people who play their games or follow things that BioWare does, will always try to bash someone new for not understanding what has not been explained.

Happens 80% of the time, every time.

This happens to remind me when IDiots (intelligent design supporters) bash biological evolution while having no understanding of it whatsoever.

[Jaysonie]

Hmm, well.........If you could fiqure out Dragon Age than this should be a walk in the park.

[DarthCaine]

I don't understand the problem. ME2 is one of the most simplified and least complicated RPGs ever (I don't want to say dumbed down in comparison to ME1)

If you can't play any of BioWare's games, maybe RPGs aren't for you and you should stick to FPSs

Modifié par DarthCaine, 04 mars 2010 - 05:56 .

[Jaysonie]

ZeroMystic wrote...

It's not a disagreement. Just read his points. He doesn't know how to play the game

Exactly I cannot play this game or any Bioware game for that matter because it is far from user friendly for anyone new to their systems and games.

people who play their games or follow things that BioWare does, will always try to bash someone new for not understanding what has not been explained.

Happens 80% of the time, every time.

Were not bashing you because were bioware fanboys, were bashing you because your writing off a great game plus the amazing game devolper who made said game just because you couldnt fiqure how to finish the first(and rather easy) level.

Edit: Also, there is no loop bug. You can ask the same question twice.

Modifié par Jaysonie, 04 mars 2010 - 05:54 .

[PhoenixGate]

ZeroMystic wrote...

Having a low IQ=/=ME2 being a bad gameAs true quote you might want to learn this:

DarthCaine,
Before you or anyone else decide to try and go blame denial, and try to stick up for who caused this mess You might want to learn and live by this more than true statement:

There is no such thing as a bad student when it comes to learning, only bad teachers, a proper student does what teacher says, and if student does what teacher says, and then it doesn't work, or it's not understandable, then you cannot blame the student. The student is just doing exactly what was told to them. You can only blame the teacher, for either teaching incorrectly, and or not explaining anything properly so the student can get and or actually do it.

Actually, I must thoroughly disagree sir.  There are both bad teachers and bad students.  I have played many games and the tutoiral for ME 2 was pretty simple and easy to follow.  And if you are blaming your ability on the tutorial, I say you are a lazy and incompetent gamer.  You are entitled to your opinion, but I am also entitled to disagree with this because of my own opinions. 

Back to my original point, a good student thinks outside of the box and incorporates what the teacher tells them into their own worldview so that they may better understand the lesson and pass on additional wisdom to others through this increased understanding.  A very bad student that has absolutely no imagination does exactly what they are told and doesn't bother to learn anything additional, thus stuntinig their mental growth and closing the door to learning from everyday life situations. 

I myself have something called slow processing, which means it is difficult for me to learn by simply doing exactly what the teacher says to the letter.  I have to mull it over, ask additional questions, and try to figure out how to interpret the information so that it makes sense to me.  Once I have done this I have a higher retention rate for what I learn. 

My point is that you are saying the student is entirely dependant on the teacher, which I find insulting because it implies that people cannot think for themselves in a teacher/student relationship.  They obviously can, otherwise no one would be able to become teachers, they would be stuck as students doing exactly what everyone else told them to the letter.

[ZeroMystic]

You all can say what ever you want to, it's not going to change the fact that BioWare does nto know how to create proper instructions for any of their games so it can be understood by anyone new.

Only reason nonoe of you who play this had a problem is because you are not new to BioWare games and or have some form of previous experience with them.

The fact is that having a pop up come up on the screen that says hold left shift, then select (Insert whatever) then left click.

is not and never will be a proper and full instruction.

It is missing the most crucial element from it that allows it to be executed and or done, and that is a total breakdown of how to access anything from what gets brought up, once left shift is held.

There needs to be a whole breakdown of the exact process used that allows you to actually not only locate the grenade launcher or power shot or ability, on this screen.

Again people who play BioWare stuff or have some past experience with it think that you only need to be told hold left shift then select (Insert whatever) and do not need any form of further instruction or expalantion about how to actually bring up and select anything from the sceen that holding left shift brings up.

I have brought up that screen many times, .. so what...means nothing because I do not know what I am supposed to be doing once the screen has been opened. All I see is an inventory screen that shows what i have picked up, and my current equipped weapon with how much ammo is in it. Even though i have the grenade lancher, it does not show up in that screen when it's opened and nor is it explained to me how to access the grenade launcher from that screen once it's opened.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that you cannot do anything beyond pressing left **** without being told what you are supposed to be doing once that screen is opened.

When someone wants to explain where the grenade launcher is I would be more than happy to equip it. but until that happens I cannot equip it becuase I cannot find it in my inventory screen. 

Modifié par ZeroMystic, 04 mars 2010 - 05:57 .

[exevii]

Keep trollin' trollin' trollin'...

[C6541]

exevii wrote...

Keep trollin' trollin' trollin'...

[DarthCaine]

ZeroMystic wrote...

Only reason nonoe of you who play this had a problem is because you are not new to BioWare games and or have some form of previous experience with them.

What? DAO and ME2 are completely different in terms of gameplay

The first RPG I ever played was KOTOR and I figured out the gameplay in less than 2 hours.

It's true that KOTOR, DAO, BG and NWN have similar gameplay, but it isn't any different than most RPGs not done by BioWare (Fallout, IceWind Dale, NWN2, KOTOR2 and even The Witcher isn't so different)

However, ME1, ME2 and Jade Empire are very simple RPGs

RPGs aren't for everyone and maybe you should stick to FPSs

Note: I NEVER read manuals and I usually disable tutorials 'cos I hate reading through lots of text

Modifié par DarthCaine, 04 mars 2010 - 06:07 .

[Jaysonie]

ZeroMystic wrote...

You all can say what ever you want to, it's not going to change the fact that BioWare does nto know how to create proper instructions for any of their games so it can be understood by anyone new.

Only reason nonoe of you who play this had a problem is because you are not new to BioWare games and or have some form of previous experience with them.

The fact is that having a pop up come up on the screen that says hold left shift, then select (Insert whatever) then left click.

is not and never will be a proper and full instruction.

It is missing the most crucial element from it that allows it to be executed and or done, and that is a total breakdown of how to access anything from what gets brought up, once left shift is held.

There needs to be a whole breakdown of the exact process used that allows you to actually not only locate the grenade launcher or power shot or ability, on this screen.

Again people who play BioWare stuff or have some past experience with it think that you only need to be told hold left shift then select (Insert whatever) and do not need any form of further instruction or expalantion about how to actually bring up and select anything from the sceen that holding left shift brings up.

I have brought up that screen many times, .. so what...means nothing because I do not know what I am supposed to be doing once the screen has been opened. All I see is an inventory screen that shows what i have picked up, and my current equipped weapon with how much ammo is in it. Even though i have the grenade lancher, it does not show up in that screen when it's opened and nor is it explained to me how to access the grenade launcher from that screen once it's opened.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that you cannot do anything beyond pressing left **** without being told what you are supposed to be doing once that screen is opened.

When someone wants to explain where the grenade launcher is I would be more than happy to equip it. but until that happens I cannot equip it becuase I cannot find it in my inventory screen. 

Maybe you should switch to console gaming if your having this much trouble, i find the controller to be much easy to use in situations like this.

[Daewan]

My nephew, who is in 7th grade, gets to play ME2 with parental supervision (to make sure he doesn't end up seducing Kelly Chambers by accident). He figured out, after years of playing other videogames how to 1) read a manual (you know, that book that comes with the game) 2) follow instructions on a screen ("Press F7 to continue") and 3) ask someone for help. He knows how to do this because 1) playing a game when you don't know the rules is not fun 2) having his character standing around on screen for an hour doing nothing would get him laughed at and 3) if he starts to whine about a game, he gets kicked off the computer so that someone else can have a chance since he's obviously wasting time.

It's too bad not everyone has gamer parents and relatives who can teach kids how to act like people.

[DarthCaine]

exevii wrote...

Keep trollin' trollin' trollin'...

EDIT: nvm, I was wrong he IS trolling

Modifié par DarthCaine, 04 mars 2010 - 08:20 .

[DarthCaine]

ZeroMystic wrote...

Only reason nonoe of you who play this had a problem is because you are not new to BioWare games and or have some form of previous experience with them.

BTW, remember that we were all once new to BioWare games and we figured them out while you say you've played multiple BioWare games and couldn't figure them out

[PhoenixGate]

ZeroMystic, I have only this to say.

You sir, are an idiot.  I do not believe that BioWare should dumb down its games to fit people like you who can't follow basic on screen instructions.  Seriously I can't believe you made it as far as you did.  I managed to figure out the dialog bubble in ME 1 just fine without ever having encountered a similar device in another game, including other BioWare games which i have only played one of previously.  I also navigated the ME 2 tutorial with no issues even though it incorporated many elements that were changed from ME 1, some of which I have never encountered before due to the fact that I largely avoid such souless factory made WW2 first person shooters.

Also, I don't see the point of you posting on this site at all if all you're gong to do is ignore what everyone has to say.  It looks like you were intentionally trying to pick a fight just to vent frustration, which you did very poorly I must say.  Your argumentative skills are horrendous.  Thank god you were never on a debate club becuse you would have sunk them as soon as you opened your mouth.

This will be my last post on this thread.  Feel free to troll, troll, troll away....