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[Gabey5]

the reapers kill and leave.....let civilization return

what if they do this to protect the universe from another alien group that wants to do the same without the return of civilization??

so by killing us they are saving us





/speculation:wizard:

[kraidy1117]

So telling the Collectors to goo over a thousand humans is a good thing? or to do Genocide every 50 thousand years? No they are not the good guys.

[Gabey5]

so you think..... they said we couldnt possible comprehend it

[Onyx Jaguar]

Good/Evil is all a matter of perspective.



If this series played from the point of the Reapers then they would be the good guys.



Since they are not, then they are the bad guys.

[kraidy1117]

Gabey5 wrote...

so you think..... they said we couldnt possible comprehend it

They do Genocide, that is one of the worse things anyone can do.

[Dhraconus]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

so you think..... they said we couldnt possible comprehend it

They do Genocide, that is one of the worse things anyone can do.

You do realize that after ME1 Shepard spent all his/her time running around killing Geth?  The goal was genocide.  Also Shepard's goal in ME1-3 is to stop the reapers, do you think Shepard is going to politely ask them to leave?  No, Shepard is likely going to try to destroy them all, or commit genocide.

There's also cultural genocide which wipes out a people in a different way.  Reprogram the Geth or destroy them?  While not complete genocide of all Geth it is a cultural genocide or just genocide of a people, all because of their religious beliefs.

I also have to agree with Maviarab above me, natural disaster's are not genocide and if you believe what Sovereign said the reapers have always been and always will be.  Sure their machines but it could be argued they're a natural disaster, like volcanoes, meteors, or suns going super nova.

But really I tend to think reapers are bad.  I just like playing devil's advocate.

Modifié par Dhraconus, 04 mars 2010 - 03:11 .

[kraidy1117]

Dhraconus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

so you think..... they said we couldnt possible comprehend it

They do Genocide, that is one of the worse things anyone can do.

You do realize that after ME1 Shepard spent all his/her time running around killing Geth?  The goal was genocide.  Also Shepard's goal in ME1-3 is to stop the reapers, do you think Shepard is going to politely ask them to leave?  No, Shepard is likely going to try to destroy them all, or commit genocide.

There's also cultural genocide which wipes out a people in a different way.  Reprogram the Geth or destroy them?  While not complete genocide of all Geth it is a cultural genocide or just genocide of a people, all because of their religious beliefs.

I also have to agree with Maviarab above me, natural disaster's are not genocide and if you believe what Sovereign said the reapers have always been and always will be.  Sure their machines but it could be argued they're a natural disaster, like volcanoes, meteors, or suns going super nova.

But really I tend to think reapers are bad.  I just like playing devil's advocate.

Those where not Geth, those where the Heritics. Reapers are a race, they are not nature. They kill and process races so they can make more Reapers. Maybe it's just me because I am German and I despise the thought of Genocide, but thats me.

[Mallissin]

Hey, we tried diplomacy both times, Dhraconus. Saren, Sovereign, and Harbinger all had multiple chances to dialog but they wouldn't join us at the table.



If you admit the Reapers are natural disasters and natural disasters are considered acts of god, then you pretty much just called them gods. So, perhaps you're not playing devils advocate so much displaying YOUR INDOCTRINATION!



GET HIM!

[Bann Duncan]

kraidy1117 wrote... Maybe it's just me because I am German and I despise the thought of Genocide, but thats me.

Call me racist but that made me LOL.

http://www.youtube.c...y1r4Pm8#t=1m45s

Modifié par Bann Duncan, 04 mars 2010 - 03:20 .

[Vaenier]

Ofcourse they are good guys. What game have you been playing? [/joke]

[kraidy1117]

Bann Duncan wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote... Maybe it's just me because I am German and I despise the thought of Genocide, but thats me.

Call me racist but that made me LOL.

http://www.youtube.c...y1r4Pm8#t=1m45s

Not all Germans favored what Hitler did. i am disgusted by our history.

[SimonTheFrog]

Well all this "Salvation through destruction" talk indicates that there's something going on. Presumably some kind of genetic archive or museum or something of that sort. But they certainly don't treat life with high respect.

[MikaelJoe]

How is elevating a race (in this case humans) to god hood, making sure the survival of the human essence a bad thing?

[Pandaman102]

Making the bad guys the secret good guys protecting everyone from the real bad guys? Maybe if Mass Effect was a JRPG, but I'm afraid male Shepard isn't androgynous enough to fit the bill.

[Dhraconus]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Those where not Geth, those where the Heritics.

Label them however you want, it doesn't change my point in the slightest.  Either you're nit-picking or you are honestly suggesting that "their hereticis so it's okay."  If it's the former, fine.  If it's the latter... just... wow....

[madisk]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Not all Germans favored what Hitler did. i am disgusted by our history.

Oh wow.




Thats our internets!

[Funkcase]

Spoilers







It seems the Reapers are similar to Super mutants in Fallout, they cant reproduce so they take people and turn them into them (just on a bigger scale in ME)

[Onyx Jaguar]

Well the more we learn about Germany I guess!



*Also, pretty awesome comment MikaelJoe

[Mallissin]

Funkcase wrote...

Spoilers



It seems the Reapers are similar to Super mutants in Fallout, they cant reproduce so they take people and turn them into them (just on a bigger scale in ME)

I have a theory about that! Segway -> http://social.biowar...5/index/1513253

[NoUserNameHere]

So, what, the Reapers are the Anti-spiral?

Why don't they just kill the guys who want to destroy civilization?



Anyway, if they try to use this excuse, I'm going to have Shep find their leader and punch KingReaper in the mouth. I don't care if he's the size of a spaceship. It'll still be a KO

[Cloaking_Thane]

From ME1 it seemed like the reapers were just patting themselves on the back.



....Oh they've reached a pinnacle? ....yea lets see if we can still destroy them with a surprise attack.