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Bob The Duck

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I went to the EA chat today to see what they could tell me about the bug, as I'm sitting at over 500 darkspawn killed and have nothing pop up. This is what they had to say.


EARep Scarlett: Hi, my name is EARep Scarlett. How may I help you?
 : Im goign through Dragon age Origins on the 360, and for some reason the Master Warden achievment wont unlock for me
 EARep Scarlett: Have you completed the requirement for the achievement?
 : Yup. in my journal I have 557 killed
 EARep Scarlett: Well, if you have completed the requirement and still the achievement is not unlocking, I would suggest that you post this on the forums for the developers to look into
 : There are already a string of posts on the forums with NO answer reguarding the glitched achievment.
 EARep Scarlett: we don't have a way to check your unlocked achievements or modify any information on it.
 : Ive looked there, I've googled it, etc. There is actually no word on it at all and is kind of frustrating
 : And you know of no way to get it to pop? So when I finish the game, its not going to pop up and add to my score?
 EARep Scarlett: No we don't have that information either
 : hmmm... i know this isn't your fault personally, but thats kind of crappy to hear.
 EARep Scarlett: I apologize for the inconvenience.
 : While its not ok, i do understand. Do you know of anyway in which I could actully reach Bioware's tech support instead of just posting to a forum tahts hardly ever, it seems, looked at?
 EARep Scarlett: No, you need to post on forums.
 : hmmm... ok. Thank you for your time
 EARep Scarlett: Thank you for your participation in the EA Games Chat Support.
 EARep Scarlett: Bye and take care.

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Thajocoth

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I have gotten this bug as well. Googling for the bug led me here. Is it at least possible to get on later playthroughs?

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Wonderllama4

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I have the achievement. I was connected online when I got it. maybe that's the problem?

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Thajocoth

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I've got cable, and a wire right to my 360 from the router. I never disconnect, so I don't know that I'm ever not connected...

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@wonderllame4 i think most people were connected to the internet, you got your trophy with the 1.01 patch or any DLC's?

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I'm having trouble with this too, over 1000 kills on 2 playthoughs (900+ on 1 playthough alone) and still not got either the 500 kill or 1000 kill achievements. I was connected to the internet at the time, all i can think of is downloading DLC affecting it but not sure. Really wish it would be fixed as its a very annoying bug.

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Wonderllama4

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I got Master Warden on 2/24/10, which was before patch 1.03 I think. maybe that's the culprit? I only had Shale and Warden's Keep. I couldn't get to 1000 kills by the end of the game anyway. only 970 or so

Modifié par Wonderllama4, 08 avril 2010 - 09:56 .


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So... Blight-queller is not unlocking for me. I've googled a bit and found quite a few people with the same issue, but no official response or fix.

It's funny that they've managed to break their own game so that it cannot even count to 1000, but mostly it's frustrating since I'm an achievement junkie and need that 1k GS to feel whole and in sync with the world.

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I finally got Master Warden. It was on my second playthrough. In my first, I had 1037 darkspawn kills and received neither Master Warden nor Blight Queller. On my second, I received Master Warden when I reached 810 darkspawn kills. Hopefully Blight Queller unlocks in my 3rd playthrough.  Hopefully my numbers help point at where the problem lies.

Is it possible that it's only counting it when the character you're controlling makes the killing blow, meanwhile the statistic is counting it every time anyone makes the killing blow?  That could explain what we're seeing, but this is just speculation.

In my second playthrough, I used a lot of Walking Bomb and Virulent Walking Bomb early on, which killed multiple enemies most of the times they popped, and late in the game I was 1-shotting Genloks with just my staff before my party members could reach them for melee...  So it makes sense to me that in my second playthrough I might have killed 500 darkspawn personally.  When I got the Master Warden achievement though, my character was unconscious.  I was playing as another party member and made the kill.

Modifié par Thajocoth, 09 avril 2010 - 05:30 .


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sassperella

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666 darkspawn kills here and no master warden achievement... sigh.

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Wonderllama4

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the problem is definitely because of the last patch. I'm hoping Bioware fixes this in the next one. achievement problems have been fixed before

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sassperella

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well let's hope so. Looks like it may be unlocking eventually but certainly not working as intended.



I think Bioware should look at getting someone else to port their games to consoles in the future, I have to say I'm getting a little sick of all the console bugs and no patches to fix them.

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sassperella

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k got the master warden at over 800 kills.



another weird glitch, (spoiler) ****





I finished the game doing the ritual and got the dark promise opened. However, when the credits finished rolling and I loaded in the autosave, the ultimate sacrifice achievement also unlocked - weird o_O

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Thajocoth

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sassperella wrote...

k got the master warden at over 800 kills.

another weird glitch, (spoiler) ****


I finished the game doing the ritual and got the dark promise opened. However, when the credits finished rolling and I loaded in the autosave, the ultimate sacrifice achievement also unlocked - weird o_O

That happened to me too.  Both actually, since I received Master Warden at 810 on my second file...

I'm testing out my previous theory on this bug by playing through with modified AI settings for my allies to simply bolster & heal me, and attract the attention of/paralyze the enemies, but deal no damage at all themselves.  All I've got left is the Ashes quest and the Landsmeet, and then obviously the finale.  I'm not going to use the armies later on either.  If this unlocks Blight Queller (or if it does not), I'll let you all know.  (I wanted to play through the game with a Rogue anyway.)  So I've got Wynne & Morrigan healing me when I take damage, as well as giving me Haste, casting the 3 heroic buffs, Glyph of Paralysis and Petrify on my targets while Leilana sings, marks targets for assassination, distracts and uses dirty fighting to stun.  To prevent them from attacking, the last entry in their tactics settings is "Enemy: Any -> Wait".

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sassperella

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yeah no one has said if they manage to get blight queller and at how many kills.



The ultimate sacrifice opening early worries me too, not sure if this is going to affect me getting the perfectionist achievment in the future... oh well we'll have to wait and see...sigh.

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Success. I achieved Blight-Queller at 1045 darkspawn kills on my 3rd playthrough. Early on in the game a few of my allies managed to get a few kills, before I fixed their tactics settings, but I'm quite sure that, in this play-through, the "currently controlled character" killed 1000 darkspawn themselves. So, I think that this is what the bug is. Not counting killing blows made by allies who are not actively being controlled.

Also achieved Perfectionist.  I had that same bug where I recieved Ultimate Sacrifice after resuming my game after seeing Morrigan's ending...  This was the 3rd time I beat the game, seeing the Morrigan, Loghain & Alistair endings, but not the one that I faultily recieved an achievement for earlier.  (I will play to see that ending anyway, but I'm noting the bug here.)

Modifié par Thajocoth, 14 avril 2010 - 10:19 .


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ah well hopefully blight queller will open for me in due course then :) thanks. And it seems I should still be able to get the perfectionist to then yay :D

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sassperella wrote...

ah well hopefully blight queller will open for me in due course then :) thanks. And it seems I should still be able to get the perfectionist to then yay :D

Well, I had to get 1000 darkspawn kills with the currently controlled character in one playthrough to get it.  I used two strategies to accomplish this.

Strategy #1 - Tap In - Tell allies to hold where they are at all times.  For their tactics: "Enemy: Any -> Wait" as the first line.  If I die, I use the next ally and so forth (as it's controlled character, not main character).  By having them hold up far from the fight, I guarantee that they don't get killed first, giving me basically 4 separate lives per fight.

Strategy #2 - Mage awesomeness - Once I had both Morrigan & Wynne, I had them learn the spells below and set their tactics to:
"Controlled Party Member: Health less than 50 -> Heal"
"Controlled Party Member: Stamina less than 50 -> Rejuvenate"
"Controlled Party Member: Health less than 75 -> Regenerate"
"Self: Any -> Haste"
"Self: Any -> Spell Shield"
"Self: Any -> Arcane Shield"
"Self: Any -> Wisp"
"Self: Any -> Rock Armor"
"Self: Any -> Death Magic"
"Self: Any -> Frost Weapons" (Morrigan)
"Self: Any -> Fire Weapons" (Wynne)
"Enemy: Attacking currently controlled character -> Petrify"
"Enemy: Attacking currently controlled character -> Glyph of Paralysis"
"Enemy: Nearest Mage -> Drain Mana"
"Currently Controlled Character: Any -> Heroic Attack"
"Currently Controlled Character: Any -> Heroic Aura"
"Currently Controlled Character: Any -> Heroic Defense"
"Enemy: Any -> Wait"
"Self: Any -> Cleanse"

Once I started running out of lines, I put Wisp, Rock Armor, ____ Weapons, Death Magic, Cleanse & Revival in their quick-use slots, and just switchted to them occasionally to make sure those were still on, instead of having their tactics handle them.  (Only bother turning cleanse on if someone went unconscious in the last fight)  (Potion + Revival for the rare occasions that the main character drops first.)  Spell Shield & Haste seemed to shut themselves off often, so I kept them in the tactics.  The others persisted as long as the caster didn't die.

The Heroic Attack/Aura/Defense might not stack...  So maybe give 2 to Wynne and one to Morrigan or something.

Haste might not stack IN combat, I'm not sure, but after having Haste cast on you twice, you'll never want to walk in the game without haste ever again.  The walking speed boost stacks, even though you only see one icon for it.  I wonder what 3 Hastes would be like...  The optimal way to do Strategy #2 there is really to play as a mage, but use Leliana as your controlled character, to get 3 mages constantly healing/buffing you.  (Leliana suggested for her lockpicking skills, but any of the non-mage party members work here.)  Perhaps give the main character "Telekinetic Weapons".

Since I was a Rogue, not a mage, I kept Leliana around and set her to:
"Self: Any -> Song of Valor"
"Enemy: Attacking controlled character -> Dirty Fighting" (No damage stun)
"Enemy: Any -> Wait"

EDIT: Also, Casual difficulty.  I recieved the achievement while killing (spoiler here) the last wave of darkspawn that the archdemon calls to it's aid.

Modifié par Thajocoth, 16 avril 2010 - 04:00 .


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Im going to bump this particular topic as i think its the most informative, I have used the tactics provided in this topic to hit the 1000 kill mark with my char alone and didn't get either master warden or blight queller. The strange thing was later on in the day i was playing a compleatly different char and master warden popped at 600 kills - this playthough was without all the hits being by me, so thats me very confused and hoping for a patch with this new dlc.

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sassperella

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yeah I was going to try and solo the darkspawn to get the achievement, but have read a couple of people say they'd tried that and it didn't work.

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hey, i had this very same problem which drove me mad. i had killed 2000+ darkspawn and still no master warden/blight-queller achievements. however i now have them and these are the exact steps that i took.



1. delete the system cache

2. delete return to ostegar dlc (note that i had all dlc, and this was the only one i deleted)

3. loaded the character from my first playthrough, and loaded a save from the final battle

4, i then played right the way through the final battle and save at the final door before you fight the dragon (couldnt be bothered with it)

5. repeat the process by loading in the first save again and fighting your way through.



i hope this helps :)

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oh i forgot to mention, it is PARTY KILLS NOT SOLO

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Can anyone confirm what 'deano12345' is posting??



I started a(nother) new character last night to try to kill all 1000 my self, but if the method mentioned in the last post is correct, I'd rather do that one...

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it really works, just make sure you save an reload the points i mentioned, an make sure you are not connected to xbox live. I had both achievements within an hour

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oh noes, i tried u'r thingy deano12345, but it just says i have to download 'return to ostagar' again :(