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[TristanFishface]

I really dont want a traitor in ME3 but for Bioware its a viable option to play out since it hasnt happened yet within our storyline.

[Geth Knight]

expanding panic wrote...

I know a lot of people probably won't like this but I think it would be cool to have a traitor. I think that the traitor will be Legion. First because we had to fight geth in the first game. Second it because he just comes out of no where and we accept everything he tells us to be the truth. But if you think about it he would be the ultimate traitor. He an AI, he has no feeling. He could kill his own people without hesitation or remorse. I like Legion to and I think that would give the most surprised feeling. Better then having a new character from ME3 to do it.

Using that logic about AI, the same could be said about EDI being a traitor. I believe Legion and dont see him as being the type to trick Shepard. If he hated Shepard and wanted him dead, he would have killed Shepard right there and then. Not ask Shepard for help in reprograming the heretics.

[lorderon99999]

Busomjack wrote...

lorderon99999 wrote...

I think traitors like Yoshimo from BG2 brings a lot of emotions and OMFG feeling....do you think a traitorous crew member would be cool? If yes who?

I think a good traitor would be Miranda...she works for Cerebus and we all know TIM is going to betray us

What do you think?

OMG!  You just ruined Baldur's Gate II for me...

I am going to KILL YOU!

What you 2 did not play BG2 yet? Dam dude I am really sorry....I said to myself after 10 years people must have played the game if they wanted 2...sorry

[jlb524]

If this betrayal is a big part of the plot, the traitor can't be an ME2 squad mate as they can all die in ME2. It also couldn't be the Council (all possibly dead at the end of ME1). It would have to be a new character, or someone who's survived both games like Udina.

[Vamp44]

What this game needs more then a traitor is...

....more:

[AK2EL]

lorderon99999 wrote...

When we think about it....maybe the council is indoctrinated....they are still keeping their eyes closed on the reapers even after the evidence was in their faces

Okay this is just IT! Ever since people started looking at TIM's eye they have suddenly stated that they could all have been indoctrinated. Seriously.... Next time you're gonna tell me Shepard was really indoctrinated as well and Anderson too...

[Busomjack]

lorderon99999 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

lorderon99999 wrote...

I think traitors like Yoshimo from BG2 brings a lot of emotions and OMFG feeling....do you think a traitorous crew member would be cool? If yes who?

I think a good traitor would be Miranda...she works for Cerebus and we all know TIM is going to betray us

What do you think?

OMG!  You just ruined Baldur's Gate II for me...

I am going to KILL YOU!

What you 2 did not play BG2 yet? Dam dude I am really sorry....I said to myself after 10 years people must have played the game if they wanted 2...sorry

ehhh, don't worry about it.  I'm sure that is not the only thing worthwhile in the game's storyline.  I'll probably still enjoy it. 

No worries.

[lorderon99999]

Busomjack wrote...

lorderon99999 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

lorderon99999 wrote...

I think traitors like Yoshimo from BG2 brings a lot of emotions and OMFG feeling....do you think a traitorous crew member would be cool? If yes who?

I think a good traitor would be Miranda...she works for Cerebus and we all know TIM is going to betray us

What do you think?

OMG!  You just ruined Baldur's Gate II for me...

I am going to KILL YOU!

What you 2 did not play BG2 yet? Dam dude I am really sorry....I said to myself after 10 years people must have played the game if they wanted 2...sorry

ehhh, don't worry about it.  I'm sure that is not the only thing worthwhile in the game's storyline.  I'll probably still enjoy it. 

No worries.

BG2 is the best RPG of all time...so it won't ruin you're experience don't worry

[SuperZombieChow]

You still haven't figured it out yet? SHEPARD is the traitor. His mind was taken over by the reapers the first time he touched a Prothean beacon. No matter what choices you made, ME3 will end with Shepard laughing maniacally as he hands over the galaxy to his reaper overlords.

[Busomjack]

Back on topic, I actually do like the idea of having a traitor in your party. The last RPG I can think of where one of your party members turned out to be a traitor was Lunar for the Sega CD, and that was one of the first RPGs I ever played.

If we do have a traitor though it should be either Legion or a new Squad mate in Mass Effect 3.
Out of all the Mass Effect 2 Squadmates, Legion is the most enigmatic. We know he is apparently part of a Geth faction that opposes the Reapers but beyond that we know little. Also, we still have no idea why he chose to use Shepard's armor to repair himself.
When pressing him on it, it seemed like he was hiding something..

Yes, I know I'm referring to him as a he even though he is genderless.

None of the other Squadmates from Mass Effect 2 would work as traitors in my opinion.  We know too much about them and if we were to just suddenly find out they're traitors it would probably seem really contrived.

Modifié par Busomjack, 04 mars 2010 - 06:33 .

[9to82td]

Vamp44 wrote...

What this game needs more then a traitor is...

....more:

or this:

[lorderon99999]

SuperZombieChow wrote...

You still haven't figured it out yet? SHEPARD is the traitor. His mind was taken over by the reapers the first time he touched a Prothean beacon. No matter what choices you made, ME3 will end with Shepard laughing maniacally as he hands over the galaxy to his reaper overlords.

Well that would be unexpected....but not really Epic

[Vamp44]

9to82td wrote...

Vamp44 wrote...

What this game needs more then a traitor is...

....more:

or this:

Damn right.

[epoch_]

How about Tali?

[Geth Knight]

Why not Ash?

[jlb524]

epoch_ wrote...

How about Tali?

She could be dead.

Geth Knight wrote...

Why not Ash?

Could be
Ash (or Kaidan if he survived instead).  Or Liara...

...oh the
horror!!

Modifié par jlb524, 04 mars 2010 - 06:38 .

[lorderon99999]

epoch_ wrote...

How about Tali?

Would be Epic...but I see no reason for her to betray...

Garrus (even if he is my fav char) would be Epic if he was indoctrinated or something....Because Garrus always searched a way to fullfill a hole in his life (that why he went to Omega) and maybe the Reaper can promise him ultimate justice or something...it could work out

But as someone mentionned b4...the traitor can't really be someone who can die in ME2...because this traitor needs to be part of the main plot

[Nissun]

lorderon99999 wrote...

Nissun wrote...

Sure. Sorry, I got carried away.

They don't need to put in a traitor to make the story interesting and moving. Their story-telling skills are better than that, come on. Just because it's an adventure game, full of action (you know, a space opera), doesn't mean it has to include every possible story twist and gimmick they can shove in.

Shepard has a good squad, there are tensions in it already. Those characters can create a lot of drama. The possibilities are endless. Why use the easy backstab story? (or if it's a Krogan, a facestab?).

Because it works and bring in good emotions...they can continue their good story telling and all...but just spice thing up even more don't you think?

In every game where you realize someone betrayed you in some way...you will get carried away and all....it an old formula but it always work

What I mean is that it is the easiest way of spicing things up. Sure, betrayal is dramatic. But there are other ways to create drama. Not all of them are gonna be innovative, but betrayal... Just doesn't fit in Shepard's squad.

P.S.: On a more personal, subjective note: Having someone very close to Shepard do something like that would upset me, in the wrong way. Like smashing the screen with a hammer way.

[Busomjack]

I don't want the traitor to be someone who the player has no chance of even figuring out might be a traitor.

Tali as a traitor would be a bad idea because there is absolutely nothing about her that might suggest she is one. We know too much about Tali and we know she couldn't possibly betray Shepard.

Legion on the other hand is still a bit of a mystery, he would make a great traitor in Mass Effect 3. In fact, I'm thinking he may even be Mass Effect 3's main antagonist.

[lorderon99999]

Busomjack wrote...

I don't want the traitor to be someone who the player has no chance of even figuring out might be a traitor.
Tali as a traitor would be a bad idea because there is absolutely nothing about her that might suggest she is one. We know too much about Tali and we know she couldn't possibly betray Shepard.
Legion on the other hand is still a bit of a mystery, he would make a great traitor in Mass Effect 3. In fact, I'm thinking he may even be Mass Effect 3's main antagonist.

That would be freaking epic....the only problem is that he can die in ME2

[Geth Knight]

I still think a female turian would be a great traitor.

[Busomjack]

I don't know if I would consider somebody being indoctrinated as a traitor. Treason requires a free will which is antithetical to indoctrination.

If Tali, or Garrus were to be indoctrinated, I would consider them victims, not traitors.



I think a great theme for Mass Effect 3 would be Shepard struggling with indoctrination. The player can do a mission where he thinks he's stopping the Reapers but in the end he realizes he was playing right into their hands and actually helping them.