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[Bhictoo]

kraidy1117 wrote...

But unlike Jacob, Miri has one of the best romances and a huge fanbase. Also the point she is VERY hard to kill means Bioware has plans for her. The thing is, majority of players will make sure everyone survives unless youare a dick and killed someone off for no reason.

I kept all of mine alive.  The only time I lost one (Mordin), was when I changed my group around and didn't have him with me.  I fixed that with a restart of the mission and kept him with me. 

[Mox Ruuga]

kraidy1117 wrote...


But unlike Jacob, Miri has one of the best romances and a huge fanbase. Also the point she is VERY hard to kill means Bioware has plans for her. The thing is, majority of players will make sure everyone survives unless youare a dick and killed someone off for no reason.

Means nothing, as long as there's a chance they might be dead.

This very same argument was used for Wrex as well. Look what happened there. "But it's so easy to keep him alive! Everyone will have at least one save he survives in!"

One middle finger later from Bioware, and Wrex had a cameo in ME2.

Besides, where on earth do you get that "majority" of players from? I'd say many, if not most, will have at least one or two casualties. And many many people only play the game once, before moving on.

[Marilynn-22]

Bhictoo wrote...

Marilynn-22 wrote...

All love interest are fan based, that is all.

I know that!  The lis I mentioned were made for the fans that weren't happy with the ones that were put in ME1.  Bioware says that this is why Thane/Garrus and Tali were added!

Don't forget Miranda and Jacob were added ALSO

[jtav]

My sole rationale for Miranda coming back is that her VA is more expensive than the rest of the squad. Either she comes back as part of the main cast or not at all. They aren't going to put her with the additional voices.

[jlb524]

Good job Noz!!  That is a lot of possible outcomes.  Also, what if the ME2 LI dies in the suicide mission?  Would there still be a confrontation scene and will it vary from the scene you would get if the ME2 LI is alive? 

It's a mess.  I expect, as others have mentioned, that any 'confrontation' scenes between LI's will be generic and lame.  Heck, it might even happen via email.  Miranda will send you an email asking where you stand and she'll CC Ashley...then the fun will begin!

mynameisdanza wrote...

Well they have to be doing something different with the LIs from 1 and 2, after they said that you'd be rewarded for staying loyal to your ME1 LI.

This is correct.  The ME1 LIs are supposedly more important to the ME3 story as well.  Hopefully the loyal will get an awesome end romance scene with Ash, Kaidan, or Liara.  They only need to make 3 of these scenes, so it wouldn't be a big resource hog like spending the time to make all of those possible romance confrontation scenes anything more than generic.

[Yeled]

aynxalot wrote...


I agree, it's *highly* unlikely everyone from both games will be recruitable. But the decision on who will/won't be I'm certain will be effected by popularity of each character, at least in some way. And, honestly, LI's have more potential emotional investment from players.

This logic doesn't follow.  None of the ME1 LIs were recruitable.  By your reasoning they should have been, especially if they were going to bring ME2 characters into the final chapter.

[Bhictoo]

Marilynn-22 wrote...

Bhictoo wrote...

Marilynn-22 wrote...

All love interest are fan based, that is all.

I know that!  The lis I mentioned were made for the fans that weren't happy with the ones that were put in ME1.  Bioware says that this is why Thane/Garrus and Tali were added!

Don't forget Miranda and Jacob were added ALSO

My original premise, was that Bioware had planned for them to be in ME2 when they mapped out the trilogy, based on the game they released with Miri and Jacob in it.  The roles that they play in ME2 are hardly add ins.  I didn't do either of their romances so I can't comment on those.

[Madecologist]

I am still afraid ME3 will fall into the Duke Nuke'em Forever pit....

[jtav]

I think there's a difference between keeping a character out of ME2 vs. 3. 3 is the last chance to wrap any of this uo. No one needs to be kept safe for a future game because there isn't one. That said, if my choices are the ME LIs only, I reserve the right to stay single and write fix fic.

[Nozybidaj]

jtav wrote...

I think there's a difference between keeping a character out of ME2 vs. 3. 3 is the last chance to wrap any of this uo. No one needs to be kept safe for a future game because there isn't one. That said, if my choices are the ME LIs only, I reserve the right to stay single and write fix fic.

The ME2 characters are already wrapped up.  They were recruited for a suicide mission, mission complete, thanks very much at least to those that survived.  And you are more than welcome to write fan fic all you want.  That is basically what Liara/Ash/Kaidan fans are trying to survive off of at the moment.

[jtav]

With respect, then by your logic, Liara was wrapped up at the end of ME and it would have been perfectly fine to exclude her from ME2 altogether. Which might have made some of her fans happier, actually.

[Nozybidaj]

jtav wrote...

With respect, then by your logic, Liara was wrapped up at the end of ME and it would have been perfectly fine to exclude her from ME2 altogether. Which might have made some of her fans happier, actually.

They did.  Why do you think we are here talking about this to begin with?

[WilliamShatner]

jtav wrote...

With respect, then by your logic, Liara was wrapped up at the end of ME and it would have been perfectly fine to exclude her from ME2 altogether. Which might have made some of her fans happier, actually.

Being an expert on Protheans you'd think Liara would be perfect for ME2 considering the main villians are protheans!!!

[kraidy1117]

Don't want to be an ass, but why is it that the Liara fans are so uptight after ME2 LI? Face it, not everyone likes her and perfer others and want some closure. I swear you Liara fans just care for Liara.

[jtav]

WilliamShatner wrote...

jtav wrote...

With respect, then by your logic, Liara was wrapped up at the end of ME and it would have been perfectly fine to exclude her from ME2 altogether. Which might have made some of her fans happier, actually.

Being an expert on Protheans you'd think Liara would be perfect for ME2 considering the main villians are protheans!!!

I'm not so sure. She's an archeologist and an expert in Prothean history and culture, which the Collectors no longer have.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

This is why I wont be surprised if Bioware simply cameo them all.

Its also the main reason why, if that happens, I wont buy ME3.

kraidy1117 wrote...

Don't want to be an ass, but why is it that the Liara fans are so uptight after ME2 LI? Face it, not everyone likes her and perfer others and want some closure. I swear you Liara fans just care for Liara.

Face it, not everyone likes the ME2 LIs, and wants some closure with the LIs from the first game.

[kraidy1117]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

This is why I wont be surprised if Bioware simply cameo them all.

Its also the main reason why, if that happens, I wont buy ME3.

kraidy1117 wrote...

Don't want to be an ass, but why is it that the Liara fans are so uptight after ME2 LI? Face it, not everyone likes her and perfer others and want some closure. I swear you Liara fans just care for Liara.

Face it, not everyone likes the ME2 LIs, and wants some closure with the LIs from the first game.

But every LI should get closure. Not the ME LI and then say they are not flings. If thats the case then I have the choice between a boring blue Alien or an uptight army **** who betrayed me and rather serve the Alliance.  The thing is Miri and Tali have HUGE fanbases, not adding them as a squadmate or not giving closure will do more bad then good.

[Sharn01]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

This is why I wont be surprised if Bioware simply cameo them all.

Its also the main reason why, if that happens, I wont buy ME3.

kraidy1117 wrote...

Don't want to be an ass, but why is it that the Liara fans are so uptight after ME2 LI? Face it, not everyone likes her and perfer others and want some closure. I swear you Liara fans just care for Liara.

Face it, not everyone likes the ME2 LIs, and wants some closure with the LIs from the first game.

But every LI should get closure. Not the ME LI and then say they are not flings. If thats the case then I have the choice between a boring blue Alien or an uptight army **** who betrayed me and rather serve the Alliance.  The thing is Miri and Tali have HUGE fanbases, not adding them as a squadmate or not giving closure will do more bad then good.

I don't know what they will do in ME3, but people made the same argument about the ME1 LI and they got put into cameo roles.  They also never said the ME1 LI will be squadmates in ME3, they just said they would be important to the story.  Anderson and Udina where important in ME1 and where not squadmates, the council was very important also and we do not even know their names.

[jlb524]

kraidy1117 wrote...

But every LI should get closure. Not the ME LI and then say they are not flings. If thats the case then I have the choice between a boring blue Alien or an uptight army **** who betrayed me and rather serve the Alliance.  The thing is Miri and Tali have HUGE fanbases, not adding them as a squadmate or not giving closure will do more bad then good.

What about Jack?  Should her ME3 romance be skimped b/c she doesn't have the Tali/Miranda fanbase?

[kraidy1117]

jlb524 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

But every LI should get closure. Not the ME LI and then say they are not flings. If thats the case then I have the choice between a boring blue Alien or an uptight army **** who betrayed me and rather serve the Alliance.  The thing is Miri and Tali have HUGE fanbases, not adding them as a squadmate or not giving closure will do more bad then good.

What about Jack?  Should her ME3 romance be skimped b/c she doesn't have the Tali/Miranda fanbase?

Jack is dieng, same as Thane tho there could be a cure but Jack is dieing.

[Marilynn-22]

Who knows maybe something will happen and Bioware will make Thane and Jack live... They have toooo D:>

[kraidy1117]

Marilynn-22 wrote...

Who knows maybe something will happen and Bioware will make Thane and Jack live... They have toooo D:>

Thats why they NEED closure, not a cameo. They will be the most emointol romance of the whole series.

[Exile Isan]

As long as I can follow up my romances with Garrus, Kaidan, and Thane I'll be happy.

[MarginalBeast]

BioWare said that they were going to "go crazy with the writing" in ME3. They don't need to spend nearly as much time on the battle system and graphics for ME3 like they did for ME2. So they can spend a good amount of development time on writing, especially since they don't have to worry about continuing things into a fourth game.

Let's just say that our ME3 team will consist of Ashley/Kaiden+Liara+ME2 cast. BioWare would just have to write new romance dialogue for the ME1 and 2 love interests, and add in one confrontation scene if you "cheated". If you choose to continue your ME2 relationship, then you get the romance dialogue with your ME2 LI. If you choose to go back to your ME1 relationship, then you get the romance dialogue with your ME1 love interest. People who didn't cheat simply don't get a confrontation scene and everything continues as normal. Would this require a lot of work? Yes. Would this require too much work? Not at all. BioWare hopefully knows how much this means to their fans. They can't afford to get lazy now.

I don't think BioWare will shun any of the romances. And if they do, I hope they are all shunned equally. I would rather have us all suffer than for them to play favorites.